Someone plays paradox games? which is your favourite?

someone plays paradox games? which is your favourite?

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I liked EUIII. It was the only one I felt that I understood somewhat to the point I could get a strategy going.
I usually liked going Castille or else England/Portugal and taking over Scotland/Ireland or else focus on trade, respectively.

I tried CK2 but it was too boring to me even with the DLC. It felt like it took months/years for anything interesting to happen that felt like I was actually moving forward. But I think it might have been starting in the British Isles was a problem.
That and trying to assissinate my way to power tended to just have more and more heirs replace the person I killed so...

>w-we're really gonna nerf the ottomans this time guys
>proceed to give them a new ability and new overpowered troops in the patch
>b-but it's balanced because we removed the claims
fucking paradox

>But I think it might have been starting in the British Isles was a problem.

>he fell for the tutorial island meme

Tutorial island is Ireland, but is so fucking bored

I originally tried in Dublin and taking over Ireland which worked when I got some princess from the Norselands to marry me and just casually took over Ireland over a few years with his army helping.
But even in Britain it still felt a bit... meh?
Or are you supposed to play as something more powerful than a count?

I'd genuinely like to enjoy it but yeah, I feel like I'm just not getting it.
Even EUIII was slower overall but still felt like more progression was made

It wouldn't be realistic if ottomans were weak, they were a massive power.

Learn to English you Brazilian sod.

CKII, because it makes me feel like a medieval Prince. That's all Paradox is good for. Don't fall for the "lel so deep" meme; they're not deep, they're just unnecessarily complicated. Play AI War, Dominions 5, or Aurora 4x/its easier cousin, Distant Worlds: Universe if you want real depth.
You were just playing it doubleplusbadwrong.

it isn't about them being weak, it's about them not being the single most powerful entity in the game after 40 years every single time

they can summon 90 more troops than russia in 1550 and that is just not ok

>EU4
>realistic
When will this meme end

>played EU4
>couldn't finish a single game
>play Stellaris
>on my 3rd game and loving it
I don't know why.

EU4, because it streamlined what needed to be streamlined (like being able to make CBs) while still adding on and maintaining enough depth

Counts are extremely boring unless you have an actual plan in mind. There's a few who can assassinate their way to success, but the vast majority of them will be sitting on their hands the entire game. If you want an entertaining country to play, try Poland in the default start date. They border a bunch of heathens for crusading on one side and the HRE on the other side who usually don't bother much with you, though you can try playing with the HRE politics if you want. Castile is also a fun choice, you can reunite the family lands and reconquer the peninsula. Playing as a count is boring shit and this tutorial island meme needs to die already.

CK2 is about managing characters and their power as much as it is painting the map. It makes just holding onto land fun, because of shit like an entire family causing you problems for generations because you fucked them over but didn't destroy them three or four rulers ago.

Warfare is waaay too underdeveloped right now. Still waiting for the next patch where it will be reworked.

I have thousands of hours in both EU4 and CK2 and I still haven't finished a single game, but I still love them.

I recently got Stellaris. Seems fun, wonder if I can convince my friend to play it.

You faggots told me a week ago that Stellaris sucked. I marked it off my fucking Christmas list.

Stellaris gets pretty old fast. Wars boil down to whoever has the larger fleet power wins in the first battle and then it's just a slog sieging down planets. The recent dev diaries talk about reworking combat and warscore, but I'm not getting my hopes up

See, I liked Castile in EUIII since it was literally a case of "I want all of Africa, that's available" or "I want to colonize the Americas" or "I want to purge the rest of Europe".

So you're saying that if I were to say, play as a larger ruler in Europe, I'd have a better chance at the AI actually being a threat outside of wars? Because so far, I've just been twiddling thumbs waiting for war claims then winning.

Yep. Call me when war score is removed.

1900 hidalgo

eu4 and ck2

vicky 2

It does suck. It needs another year of patches before it'll get good, but at least PDX is actually working on it, so there's that.

I'm european lmao

One does not play ck2 as eu4. Game is about roleplaying mainly, painting map secondary. Last time I've played it, managed to convert the pope to a satanist cunt. This triggered some anti pope events, and eventually a war betweed hre vs france, poland, hungary.

here goes another germany playthrough

Ai war is fucking amazing. Really underrated

> Sup Forums parroting again

If you find paradox games complicated you've got adhd prolly

EU3

Stellaris is garbage. I wouldn’t get it for anything more than 75% off

But user it clearly says you’re playing as Austria

>alarian
Heheh
go back to Sup Forums

Vicky II is king, but only because I never took the plunge into HOI territory.

What's your guys favourite nations to play as, what game and why?
Mine is ansbach in Eu4
>dat colour scheme and flag
>dat surrounded by all the rich southern German provinces
>dat -25% mercenary maintenance
>those completely op unique ideas

Im willing to form gorssdeutschland :D :D :D

I used to like EU but Victoria 2 is the only one I can stand anymore

And now take a deep breath and imagine paradox is making right now a hoi4 tier victoria game

The trick is to stop caring

It sucks and it's not going to get better. The kinoest space 4x is Distant Worlds.

I like all the games
EU4 is fun to play as a native
Stellaris is just always a blast
HoI4 is fun when no one follows "le historically accurated"
and crusaders just piss me off

They really were overpowered IRL. Just ignore when they get beaten by Albania for 25 years or the fact they only ever won when they massively outnumbered anyone. Give them the best troops even though their best troops were slavs and ignore how they got thrashed by Venetians aka weak lagoon jews and The Knights of Rhodes who killed them at a rate of 250 for 1.

So you admit lagoon jews are superion to slavs

It mostly focuses on roleplay and dynasty politics. ck2 isn't for everyone, it definitely isn't like eu4- eu4 (unironically) creates believable worlds and marks time periods with scripted events and gives certain countries massive bonuses to encourage their success. in ck2 you can flip it all on its head, go from count shitfuck of trondelag to duke of champagne to king of england in three generations if you play your cards right, and europe may well look unrecognizable and ugly as fuck when you finish, especially if you play from old gods or charlememe.

Different strokes for different folks. you definitely can conquer like you do in eu4, even more so if you know how to manipulate claimants and especially if you play as a religion with massive conquest cbs (islam is the prime example). I'd say you can conquer massive swathes of europe in a generation if you really wanted to, though defensive pacts make that harder if you have them on. I personally enjoy fucking around with cultures and dynasties and I shamefully have 5000 hours in ck2. My latest game is building the karlings up from nothing in 1066. Three generations in, I'm the duke of poitou and I got my dynasty on the soon to be Portuguese throne. This generation I conquered Jerusalem too, plan was to marry my way into any kingdom I could and bring it to eu4 for karling ideas. In 10 years I lost Jerusalem to the Egyptians and my heir is the result of my wife cuckolding me with some dutch nigger. he's also retarded. ck2 in a nutshell I guess.

When it comes to raw cunning and civilisation building of course Venetians are better than Slavs. The cities of the Dalmatia coast were built by them while slavs were all buttfucking each other and getting raped by house of osman

>eu4 (unironically) creates believable worlds

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The ottomans started off as a small tribe of turkic nomads with little to no resources at all in the end of the 13th century.
The fact that they conquered 13% of the entire world and lasted until 1923 is somewhat impressive.

>3328
Try harder faggot

Nigger please, the Ottomans are total pushover if you know what the fuck you are doing

Its like the 2nd photo on the internet if you search for eu4. I was reffering to the user stating eu4 creates believable words. No, it doesnt

>So you admit lagoon jews are superion to slavs
Lagoon jews employed slav mercenaries for their fierce reputation since you don't know
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket-hilted_sword#Schiavona

I don't deny their historical achievements and I can't deny them, even. With regards to the opportunities they took and the power they accrued. But when it comes to EU4 they are just ridiculously overpowered with no historical basis for this. This is not anti-islamic or anti-kebab sentiment because I feel the same way about Sweden in game.

In my currently game the PLC is the most powerful country on the planet given they ate the russian states

had to use a GP intervention to prevent the polish/austrian alliance from wrecking the ottomans and even then I had to feed them 5k ducats just to keep them from falling (colonialsm/trade oriented netherlands, I ran out of building slots 50 years ago)

>lasted until 1923

I wonder fucking how?
The sickman of europe literally should have been dismantled in the late 19th century

>plays 2000 years beyond the end date
>look guys not believable worlds

Oh we both know eu4 is a fucking mess and AI is usually retarded as fuck. Unless you turn on that oozhassny historically lucky nations, and you let the computer to hold your hand through the game, the outcome is pic related.

AI is currently even more retarded than usual, all the western european great powers are hamstrung by the dumbest troop AI ever causing them to ship their entire armies into arctic canada
effectively, the minute france gets a single colony anyone can beat them

The problem with the historical accurcy of the game is in that the rules are made so that you generally have the historical outcome regardless of if the historical outcome is likely irl.
They make all these systems that are suppose to simulate the real world power and development of nations while handicapping themself by trying to stick to the real world history.

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vicky 2 by far

>inb4 banned in China

save transfer was a mistake