Kotor 2

tfw the best Star Wars is a game and not a movie.

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Is it too serious all throughout to be a star wars movie?

Star Wars is cooler when it takes itself seriously.

What Star Wars game let me drink titty alien milk?

>game is literally unplayable half of the time
>it's still the most fun I've had in years
strange feeling

It's not filled with marvel-esque quips and sarcastic retorts undercutting serious moments but the game does have a dry understated sense of humour and an oppressive atmosphere that does a good job of making the player feel like the planets and places they're visiting are dying or suffering.

This is the same reason many don't like the game however as the black and grey morality whilst being reasonably well done feels strange in a star wars setting where every character is either good or bad.

I personally agree with you OP but i can see why people hated it along with the cut content and bugs everywhere. Probably the closest you will ever get to a "mature" star wars that isn't disney fan wank like rogue one.

Is the writing really better in Sith Lords? i’ve been trying to play through the first one and most of it is bioware’s traditional pussy saint or baby murderer response options.

Yeah it definetly is better. I feel like their are different shades of dark side and light side. You can go baby murder to an evil person who believes that he is the only one who wants to get shit done to a pussy saint to someone who still follows the jedi and maybe a kyle katarrn esque type of guy.

It's less obvious what the "best" outcome for situations will be and the writing does a good job of picking out the flaws in the Star Wars universe which annoys fanbabbys.

If you like star wars but aren't a semen slurping fan drone you'll probably appreciate the effort to make something different and unique in such a predictable franchise.

Download restoration mod also fixes a lot of issues on the technical, content and story front.

Not enough minority actors.
Too many men.
Force is not female.

0/10, OP

>tfw the best Star Wars is a game and not a movie
Well yeah, but you posted the wrong one. Pretty close though.

It has far more funny moments than first one. There are entire quip sections when you control various droids and make funny things.

In other words, it's clever.

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It's a lot better than the first game. All you need to do is compared the companions from both games (especially the ones that are in both) to see the stark difference.

No. Both Knights games are broken easy. Even on Hard. They're not worth playing.

Stop worshiping shit game design.

>Star Wars.

Not a fucking argument.

>Comfy.

Not a fucking argument.

I don't understand the constant circlejerk about this game. The first one was way better as a Star Wars game. KOTOR2 is great too but doesn't respect the SW universe as much as 1.
Also the ending is pure garbage, especially compared to KOTOR1 ending.

>Combat is the only thing that makes gameplay

The humour is 2 is more akin to the humour in the OT, which was always dry and sarcastic.

Everyone knows that combat is the main appeal of RPGs. Everyone also knows that if one aspect of a game is bad, then the rest is also inherently shit

There are more good stories in star Wars Vidya than any other property
ESB > KOTOR 2 > ANH >TLJ > DARK FORCES 2 > JEDI KNIGHT 2 >KOTOR > JEDI ACADEMY > THE FORCE UNLEASHED > ROTJ > the rest

>but doesn't respect the SW universe

DUDE I JUST WANT THE SAME STORY REPEATED TO ME AGAIN AD INFINITUM

>The first one was way better as a Star Wars game
It was equivalent of TFA
>KOTOR2 is great too but doesn't respect the SW universe as much as 1
Kotor 2 autistically fits SW and EU

>doesn't respect the universe
bullshit it doesn't.
The person Kreia wants you to be reflects Luke or Sheev pretty much perfectly.

>TLJ
?????????

youtube.com/watch?v=6EMc_S_vAsk

This video is absolute kino, worth a watch

>reflects Luke or Sheev pretty much perfectly.
I really don't see how they are in any way related to Kreia's philosophy. Unless it's some Star Wars Legends addition that I'm not aware of

You heard me

Just got Kotor 1 and 2, which sides would u guys suggest I playthrough first?

I don't hate it as much as Sup Forums does but it's never going to rank above the likes of rotj, kotor 1, or jk2/academy

TLJ is the third worst Star Wars movie, only better than TPM and AOTC

Kotor 2 is an exceptional dark side story, idk about 1. Might be cool to go light side in 1 then darky in 2

tfw when the best Star Wars will forever stay the best Star Wars because disney made the franchise shit.

obviously the first one, most of kotor 2 builds on it

It completely does in my opinion.
Sup Forums is a bunch of Redditors who came here in 2015 for tfa. They're fucking retards and 90% of them haven't even seen the movie

Third best, and the only one made in the last 30 years worth watching at all

I meant light side or dark side

Fuck off young, dumb, phone posting scum.

This is unironically my favorite western rpg of all time. I might replay it but I already beat it like 15x so I don't know what class or alignment I'd play as.

I'm older than you faggot and I'm on a train, sue me.

Hello Mousebot

so the weaponized hyperspace jump didn't bother you one bit? It completely contradicts the way the sw universe works

Dark through both fits the story way more in my opinion and I beat both games a fuck ton. Especially the 1st ending.

>I’m older than you
Show me your asshole so I can count the rings homo.

Having recently replayed both, I don't know how anyone can think that KOTOR 1 is well written. It's cringe worthy.

Kreia is a Bene Gesserit through and trough, and the game sort vindicates Dune as the sole progenitor of a whole lot of great sci fi fantasy.
Its a great Star Wars piece of fiction which is not at all about being grey, its about recognizing both simple allegiances to light and dark as repressive ideologies. Lacking nuance and balance.
Qui Gon is a perfect example of a true Jedi.

The followers that go with the Exile are actually all the True Jedi who carried their cross but became better persons, or the other way around and go self destructive if you go dark.

So who wanted to fuck Mission Vao in Kotor 1?

Just me?

There are people who didn't want to fuck Mission?

Not at all, I thought it was cool and doesn't change anything at all. It says even in the first star wars movie that an improperly calculated jump to hyper space could cause you to collide into a star or another ship. No reason not to do it on purpose. It was cool as fuck

everybody obviously

>Original trilogy was nice but nothing really incredible, still worth a watch though
>Everything that came after it was mostly complete garbage with exception of few actually good scenes
>Somehow all Star Wars games before EA got the monopoly were god tier, now beacuse of EA they're absolute garbage like movies
>mfw the best part of probably the biggest movie franchise ever isn't the movies
The best part is that the movies are actually the worst thing in the whole fucking MOVIE franchise.

>Its a great Star Wars piece of fiction which is not at all about being grey, its about recognizing both simple allegiances to light and dark as repressive ideologies. Lacking nuance and balance.
I really wish the fucking gameplay would reflect that. Unfortunately, it's stuck with the black-white alignment system

why didn't the rebels destroy the death star that way then? Why even have a death star at all if you can just hyperspace jump ships into planets? Why have giant space ships when you can just build small unmanned ones and ram them into enemy ships?

>Original trilogy was nice but nothing really incredible, still worth a watch though
Eh, you're definitely in the minority about that. When it came out, Star Wars was undeniably incredible

Did EA buy the rights for the whole eternity? Surely there will be some new nonshit SW games in the future, right? Right?

>Dark Side
Kreia tells you not to rely on your force muscles, don't pointlessly be a dick for the sake of it, manipulate people and bring others to your side so you don't have to constantly get your hands dirty.
This is precisely what Sheev does

>Light side
Kreia tells you not to charge headlong into every perceived injustice, and instead focus on winning small battles that cause larger ripples.
Luke learns this the hard way in ESB
Kreia also says not to rely on dogma, and to think for yourself when the situation calls for it
Luke ignores Obi-Wan and Yoda, and is rewarded by saving his father and the galaxy

No it actually makes a point that to walk a balanced a path of light or dark, one of them must be chosen consciously, but always detaching your ego from them.
Kreia warns about that all the time.
So a true Sith knows what Good is in order to corrupt it and gain power, and a Good aligned Jedi knows what evil is in order to fight it.

You have to choose sides, what you must not do is subsume your self to an idea.

They've got it for another 4-5 years, IIRC

They have it until 2023, I believe

The OT is just "The Hero's Journey:Space Opera Edition" It was significant only in the sense that it brought these ideas to what where then, modern audiences. They are incredibly flawed films by all other standards.

The game isn't about being constantly neutral, it's saying you should be smart about the path you choose.
If you're evil, have a goal rather than just swinging your sith dick around and having power for the sake of power
If you're good, actually do some good rather than finding the nearest beggar and emptying your wallet

You misunderstand. If you try to be neutral in the game, your character gets gimped for it, because the force powers are alignment based. It encourages just picking a side like you would in the first game

Forgot to say, hence why Nihilus is a Husk, and the other scarred guy is a broken shell as well.

Sheev is so fucking Force addicted you can see it in his melted face. Kreia would have hated that shit. I see where you're coming from, though

Come on its not only that.

Put things into perspective, Lucas managed to not only make a simple heroes journey Greek drama but also pick up the aesthetic from great comic artists and put it on screen in a style no one has saw before.

Star Wards aesthetically for sci fi fantasy is a great shift. Lucas just picked the best Artists of the time like Moebius and Druillet.

You're right. Instead it's the redditors that came for baneposting and le epic GoT threads

Something I liked about Sheev was that he only ever displays his power when he has absolutely no avenue left. Everything else is done on the back of his charisma and everyone else's knowledge of him

One reason he's so much better than Snoke is that he didn't even have to raise his voice to get respect, fear and even terror from his subordinates, much less wave his force dick around.
His mere name caused the Death Star commandant, a man talking to Darth Vader, to shit himself.
When Luke attacked him, he just sat back and laughed because he knew Vader had it in hand.
You didn't see him constantly having to watch his back around Vader or his generals.

Of course they're flawed. All movies are flawed. However, it does the heroes journey so competently that it's pretty much the quintessential example of it. The movies are not "Incredibly" flawed, as you make it out to be.
ROTJ has some strange hiccups, though, I'll give you that

So I just started 2, any tips?
I'm a Sentinel and a double-bladed purple lightsaber is non-negotiable.

Yeah, he's a really good fucking villain. The best part of the prequels, as well. You really get to see the bastard getting his hands dirty while he makes the galaxy his bitch

forcestorm2win

Speed/Lightning is your instant win button
Wave is the lesser crutch
Destroy droid makes any droid enemies an absolute joke and can destroy mines, but you don't fight that many of them and it's better to recover mines anyway.

It's better to use skills to open locked containers, or you'll break things in them. You also get a small EXP bonus for using skills in various ways. Invest in demolitions for a free level up at one point
Have points in at least intelligence, awareness or wisdom for more conversation options.

Who was in the wrong here?

First one is fucking great I didn't finished two though
I think it was because nothing fucking happens and I didn't get my fucking lightsaber.

you're the very definition of a brainlet

Always the blacked one.

I guess.
I tried played the second right after the first so I was still hyped about jumping around and all that cool shit, so starting again felt slow as fuck

You WILL every now and again see the same choice in kotor 2, but it's a lot less prevalent and in fact most of the writing focuses on the "shades of gray" moral choices.

if you're that impatient, there's mods that give you a lightsaber from the start or lets you skip peragus alltogether

I'm impatient, not a cheat.

You get your first saber during the planet you choose to land on, IIRC.
Depending on what quests you do, you can get it almost immediately, halfway or miss it until the end.
The last one is pretty difficult though.

After you get your first saber, any quest that would have given you a part instead gives you a new saber of a random type/colour.

blaster builds are the only way to go

>tfw there are more shit Star Wars films than good ones

It's been that way since a new hope

She's a fucking kid
So obviously I wanted to fuck her so goddamn hard. I like to imagine you actually rape her right before you kill her and it makes me so goddamn hard

If Disney chooses to use the Kotor games to make new movies or a tv series, I'm kinda anxious how they'll "adapt" the existing story and characters. No telling what Kennedy and her writer's room will do with/to the material.

>not the infinitely better twilek

KOTOR 1/2 really wouldn't work as a film because of how much your choices actually affect the games story. At most you could get a decent horror flick about waking up on an abandoned mining colony with everyone dead and the AI trying to murder you

This "game" butchered the KOTOR series before it started, fuck Obshitian

ANH was serious all throughout and it was the best Star Wars movie.

Given their lack of connection to the Force, are average joes like bounty hunters, smugglers, gangsters etc. the embodiment of Kreia's ideology?

Of course they'd have to chose one of the many paths to focus on. Same as the canonical Revan is male and the Exile is female. They can choose the route for maximum audience appeal. I'm not going to get hung up on stuff like "waah, they didn't reflect my choices in the movie", when most of the routes are interesting in some way or another. That's what the games are for.

Whoa there that's not Jedi Knight

I really wanted to like those games but they're such a chore to play

Does kotor 2 end in a cliff hanger. Never played but for some reason I assumed it did

It's not about reflecting choices in the movie, it's about the fact, that the story of both games wouldn't work in a movie. It's one of the few times when the medium being a game is actually used to elevate the story

yes. Extremly interesting and hyping one

And then TOR happens.

The old republic is safe now, because new canon has altered most of the aesthetic and backstory for it.
Darth Big Guy is now the first Sith Lord, for example, not the one who invented the rule of two

kreia is still the best star wars character