This game is the Dark Souls of the roguelike genre

This game is the Dark Souls of the roguelike genre

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Its definitely not the toughest, but its probably the best balanced one and the least tedious of the big ones.

Holy shit, when did they merge all food into "rations"? I haven't played in a few months and was wondering how I was finding so much fucking bread

Some days ago

I love rougelikes because of the insane variety and depth, along with the huge risk of permadeath.

Sandbox Rougelikes are more my taste because they usually have lots of unique shit with crazy depth like DF or C:DDA. I wannah be good at games like DC:SS, but even though its one of the more accessible games I can not beat mentality of hording usable and never using them, when they're the things that usually save your ass.

Yeah, it's tough to die to a fucking group of gnolls or something when you're holding a scroll of blinking. You don't want to waste it escaping some enemies that are usually fodder

>a million different races and classes
>shallow world simulation
Meh.

>Stone Soup
>Tales of Maj'Eyal
>Nethack
>Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
>DF Adventure Mode
>IVAN

What else can be considered a "core" roguelike that everyone should try at least once?
inb4 rogue yeah we know asshole

Also what is your favorite small/unknown roguelike? mine are
A quest too far (you play as an old adventurer trying to rescue his grandchildren in a reverse setting, start out super buff and lose everything as more time goes on because you're old)

Infra Arcana (really nice lovecraftian roguelike with sanity mechanics and spellcasting)

DOOMrl (roguelike doom, expectedi it to be shit but it's actually really well made.)

I'm looking for new ones to try out.

Isn't it miles away the easiest major one though? Or is that the point?

One Way Heroics

I'm definitely appreciate how they combined wand charges, but I kind of liked the variety with different types of food.

>didnt mention caves of Qud
You are in for a treat.

>Nobody mentioned UnReal World

Holy shit you guys are missing out

>unreal world
God I remember that game, the controls are a shitwshow but the setting is unique and it does the time period really well.

>early access
Are you pulling my leg user?

Just try it.

Wont lie, had to remap the controls myself, they were pretty bad. The setting, and gameplay are good though.

Every time I play this shit I encounter Sigsmund on floor 2 and die because i'm such a low level.

Ive literally never been below floor 5.

>trouble with sigismund
Nigga just roll a minotaur berserker and rage headbutt the bitch to death.

Is this a joke? DCSS is baby's first roguelike

Try nethack

Meh, it's one of the easier ones.
They've removed so much and streamlined it that after say floor 4-5, you have to play bad to lose.
>Tales of Maj'Eye, please buy on steam to fund a free game, kek
Please, off yourself.

>Buying the steam version
>Instead of just playing the free version

You are the faggot here user.

I've played like 40 hours since last week

Deep elves master race

>playing a non human
>mfw

But honestly user Ive tried a few different classes and I always seem to have rotten luck with him.

Not even. Game doesn't even let you drink poison.

I bet you never played Rogue

>b-but they have a free version!

Yes, just like the faggot that stole the Nethack code to make some shitty "3d" version and sell it on Steam means we should condone that.

How about again, you off yourself?

Potions of mutations/degeneration can ruin your playthrough

Its really fun, they have removed a lot of things for questionable reasons but im okay with the majority of the changes.

My only beef is that currently hybrid builds kind of suck compared to straightforward ye olde knight and blow up things magic.

>game has a free version
>you can buy it as a way to donate to the author
>you can play the whole game and unlock everything with the free version
>It's somehow wrong that a developer takes donations while still offering a free full game

I guess you hate DF too then, right? or literally any free game that takes donations?

And if you drink them willingly (or any unknown potion unless you know it's safe by seeing a monster drink it first) then you're playing to handicap yourself. Only when you must use a consumable to escape do you start to ID them by quaffing. Generally with the higher number of potions first as they're usually beneficial.

Don't underestimate the power of potions in the early game. I used to die to grinder all the time, but then I realized that all it takes is one potion of strength/agility/haste/berserk and he goes down easily. I haven't lost to him since, and sigmund's the same way.

>different types of food
Bloat.

So I'm playing a MiFi with axes+shields, but Okawaru just gifted me a +3 flaming executioner's axe with +5 STR. God damn it, I like shields

>Demonspawn chaos knight of xom
>Drink every mutation potion you find

Only way to play tbqh.

>give me money for more content such as more lives and making it not a roguelike while pretending it's a roguelike cause you're super duper hardcore

Faggot, please, learn before you speak.
But please, do now explain to me how the DLC is free ^__^
Can't?
Okay, stop shilling for the faggot. We get it, you paid for a shitty DLC (twice) and are assblasted that it's nowhere near as good as the free mods
Also, kek @ you trying to compare donations to bribery

Where's ADOM you fucker

Angband
Sil

And the entire game's "bloat" around a long progress bar? I get that reducing inventory clutter is nice, but I variety is important to adding depth to the game. Why not remove the different tilesets for other branches while they're at it?

How often do you win playing like that, though?

>variety
bloat. anything thats not a gargoyle or minotaur is bloat
t.crawl dev

>Using smileys
>Arguing that DLC is the same as the base game
>Even though you said yourself the mods are better than the DLC
>Wanting infinite lives in a fucking roguelike

I see now I've been arguing with a faggot, nevermind.

>Why not remove the different tilesets for other branches while they're at it?
Give them few months.

It's about the journey, not the destination, user. Sometimes you just feel like watching the abomination you've created be unleashed into the dungeon and just see what happens.

So your new argument is: you used an emoticon and I must mock you

Shill on, my good jew, shill on

Anyway, if anyone wants, I can upload the pirated version of this Jew cunts game

lol. And in the next update, all weapons will just be merged into a single "weapon", and all elves will be removed.

Honestly, the most fun I ever had playing DCSS was during april fool's a couple years ago, when they temporarily re-added the hive branch and old unrands/uniques.

Brogue for sure. Also not exactly core, but Cogmind and Incursion are pretty great.

Yes, please. Upload copies of the FREE GAME like the dumb contrarian cunt you are.
Here let me do it for you in fact.

te4.org/

Tales.of.Maj'eyal.1.5.5-SKiDROW-RELOADED-CODEX

I beat it many times, I've been waiting for a few more patches for it to become fresh again, was planning on playing while on magic mushrooms to make it more interesting. Has the final patch been released?

>Escape to the floor below him.
>Kill monsters andlLevel up
>One or two more floors.
>Level up
>Go back up
>Kill him.

Easy.

>early access
You realise most roguelikes arent even past 1.0

>caves of cuck

I do, but most roguelikes don't charge you to play the >1.0 versions.

>I offered to upload the DLC
>Jew asks me to upload anything but the paid DLC

Gee golly whizz, Adolf! I smell gold!

Pretty enlightened response tbqh

Go ahead and upload it then faggot.

This is one stupid sentence

Repeat after me. "Please, White Master, upload the DLC that costs me money to make"
Speak to me properly, boy.

Dungeon Crawl: Remove More Content

This is the World of Warcraft of the roguelike genre. Accessible, easy to get into, difficult to master, loses content with every patch.

>axes+shields
doing it wrong

i miss distill/evaporate
i miss spider form being faster than default
i miss sludge elves
god do i miss crusaders
why did they remove death knights?
what was the point of removing racial items that granted bonuses if you were playing as said race?
remember when you could hoard food as a mummy and sac them all to yugioh at once for free decks of wonders and abuse that shit for mad exp?
why do they keep removing the fun?

BLOAT
But really. it's because they can't be bothered balancing the early game.
It's generally considered that anything before the Temple might not be your fault as a result of bad play (ie, you might not have many known consumables, a good weapon, had to forgo XP due to dangerous NPCs, etc) but usually afterwards is when you can say "I made a mistake and this is how".

I'd go as far as saying once you get to the Lair it's your own fault if you fuck up there - apart from exploring new branches or doing new things. IE, back when summons didn't time out, playing a MuWz of Sif and accidently not going around with a full pack of summons, exploring every downstair to see what area is safe, retreating fully, etc.

As to your questions:
>Distill/evaporate
No need since it was actually too difficult to use them apparently (or it was too confusing/wasn't deemed fun)
>Spider form nerf
I'm not actually sure why. I think it was due to it being used "only" as an escape/kiting method
>Sludge Elves
Too many Elven rac. I'm serious. That was the reason.
>Crusaders
Early game balance was terrible as stated above so they cut them to make getting to the Temple/finding the right altar worthwhile
>Death Knights
See above
>Racial Items
Kinda too RNG (I do agree to a point) with this when it came to mid/end game items
>Mummy tricks
I JUST WANT MY SUMMONER OF SIF WAIFU WITH A HORDE OF DRAGONS AROUND ME ALL THE FUCKING TIME

Well, I might as well play 0.11

>post a dungeon crawler
>call it a roguelike

update when?

>corrosion just wears off after a few turns
What's the point of it then? Just remove it along with slimes.
I WANT TO BE ANNOYED AND INCONVENIENCED DAMN IT

>has all the mechanics of a roguelike
>but you crawl dungeon's so it's a dungeon crawler

game?

Demon

Quaffing every mutation potion you find is the only way to play this game.

DCSS is pretty easy and forgiving though.

bloat

HOW TO PLAY SS:

BE DEMON FOR MUTATIONS
MELEE ONLY
DRINK ALL POTIONS INSTANTLY, THEY COULD BE STAT UPS.

>

Is DCSS a meme game?

I just got poisoned to death by a kobold with a poison dagger in D:1,so much for forgiveness.

Just sock him, bro

They changed the formula so now you get guaranteed shitty muts.

Instead you should be eating mutagenic meats and quaffing pots in case you get regen stop or teleportitis

Recommend me a dungeon crawl to get into
I think I've never played one before

sauce on that image

reverse image search it you mong