Why is a Bloodborne boss in Dark Souls 3? Why does she have 3 phases? Why does this DLC suck so much?

Why is a Bloodborne boss in Dark Souls 3? Why does she have 3 phases? Why does this DLC suck so much?

Ashes of Ariandel is such a short, fucking bad, and lame DLC. The Ringed City is way better.

Is there a single boss that makes Sup Forums as mad as Friede?
Besides the obvious one, of course.

TRC is literally just two swamps, two rooms of a castle, and just as short and bad. Yet for some reason you faggots hate one and like the other. Frieda is also a better boss than Midir or Gael. Fight me.

Why do so many people get salty over Friede? She was easily one of the best bosses in the series.

>Freide is better than Gael

Friede is more of an endurance / attrition test.

Beating one phase is easy as fuck.

Agree with the first part, but not the second. Friede is ok once you learn her but pretty much entirely bullshit up until that point. Last phase should've been its own fight, with more health I guess

>Invading in Ringed City
>4 phantoms + host

Let it end...

DaS3's multi-phase fights are lazy ways to try and make bosses harder.

Git gud.

>Invasions are such an integral part to the souls games that it becomes notoriously known that people have fun by invading other people and ruining their game

>Dark Souls 3 subverts the trope by ruining the fun for people trying to invade other people and ruin their fun

Bravo Miyazaki
Kino Souls
So Meta

>1st Phase.
>Boring slog that makes you stand around and wait for her dumbass to go invisible so you can safely hit her.
>2nd phase.
>Ram your weapon up Ariandel's ass while he flails all over the place and Friede randomly spams blanketing frostbite and casts heal. You can't see shit during this phase because Ariandel is inexplicably enormous.
>3rd Phase
>Naruto action garbage where she flies all over the arena with a moveset that features numerous 1-shots, grabs, sweeping flailing and other such garbage.

Doesn't help that she reads you inputs just like NK, so she's basically cheating on top of all that garbage.

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>Reads your inputs like NK
I would like to see a source for this claim.
I have doubts.

>reads you inputs

Even if they could read inputs, who gives a shit?
They can't stop moving in the middle of a combo or animation, so you can still exploit it.

The only boss that seems to have move canceling is the Champ. He seems to come up with that kick out of nowhere.

I think champ-man just has a lot of attacks that he could potentially follow up with a kick. Also his moves generally have very short cooldowns, so it looks like he's move-canceling, but he's really just chaining them together weirdly.

Now Orphan of Kos on the other hand...

Queue up an Estus at any point during Friede's fight, she'll immediately drop what she's doing and dash towards you, even out of her invis.

They read them based one what you've queued up, not just what you're doing. If you roll late on NK and get hit, you'll roll out of the stagger and every single time this happens he'll add an attack onto his combo that's delayed just long enough to land, every single time.

Both of these things happen without fail.

>Enemies rush you dwon when you try to heal
Yeah, that's been a thing since DaS1. I think they even talked about it in some presentations, like how "Now the enemies fight smarter, and they will try to stop you from healing"
Most enemies do that shit, it's nothing special, and it makes healing more punishable.

Not until you actually start healing, retard. There's a difference between them seeing you estus, and them being a fucking psychic and reading the game's shitty input system.

2>1>3

DaS3 has tons of Bloodborne influence. The Corvians and the Satyrs would be right at home if you plopped them in the Forbidden Woods, and they have speed that fits BB way more than it fits DaS3. The Thralls fit that mold too; they're quick and they could easily be placed in early Yharnam & you'd think they were just street urchins.

Every enemy reads your inputs. If you just circle-strafe around Lothric knights, they'll stand there with their shields up. As soon as you press a button, they attack.

>i-input reading!
>b-bloodborne boss!
>a-anime!
These are the complaints of a shitter.

why is ds3 so fucking scary, ladies? those fucking blood-curdling screams.

The legends are true...

It's true, though. Everytime somebody has trouble with a DS3 enemy or boss, it's instantly because it's a "Bloodborne enemy", like that makes the slightest difference to anything at all.
And video game AI can't fucking think. If it can't analyse your inputs and test them against positional data, it can't react. Do you want to go back to the NES days where bosses did the same thing over and over until somebody dies?

There's a difference between analyzing your play style to react appropriately and reacting as soon as you press a button.
If you turtle up, the enemy should be aggressive to break your guard. If you're aggressive, the enemy should be defensive and pick their attack spots.
You should not be able to stand there with your shield up while the enemy does nothing, then attacks the instant you do an input. The enemy should not decide to trade attacks with you just because "well the player pressed a button, that means it's time to attack".

FEETS

>t's instantly because it's a "Bloodborne enemy"
It's like DaS3 is a bad version of BB or something... Whoa...

Frieda might be my least favorite boss of DS3. Mostly because it seems to sum up a lot wrong with the boss fights in DS3.

1. Too many multi-phase, multi-health bar bosses. Too many “Ha you didn’t actually kill it!”
2. Mechanics are wildly different in each phase. You have to learn the telegraphs if three different phases in order to get through
3. Very lame theme and underwhelming. The first time I fought Four Kings I was fucking blown away at how awesome it was. We’re fighting a nun in a church with a large dead dude in a chair. It’s just weird. Very few bosses felt cool.
4. Forgettable. There’s nothing memorable about this fight other than it being frustrating.

Friends gets some extra points because she’s also gimmicky. Stereo sound is pretty much required to kill her, and she is the only enemy in the entire game like that. My tv had shit speakers and it wasn’t until after I beat her that I discovered you can find her based on sound when she disappears

I still consider Crystal Sage to be the worst, but that's just my opinion, man.

You could kick. You could use a disarming WA.
Kicks generally come out fast enough to interrupt a Lothric Knight mid swing, but stance/swipe is a bit difficult to pull off fast enough.
I don't know what to tell you, man. Anytime I see a shield up I just kick or disarm and it works everytime.
With regards to estus, I can see your point, honestly, but it's basically the game telling you that the moment you chugged isn't a chug opening. You do it once, then you look for another opening because it clearly didn't work.

No comment.

DS3 is a lot smoother of a game, and apart from having shields, armor, and no offensive health regen, the movements are very similar to bloodborne. Bloodborne forces you to dodge, and I mean you can run DS3 without a shield (like I did) and it will feel similar to bloodborne. The entire game will

I meant smoother than 1 & 2, which both feel pretty clunky in retrospect

>There are people that will unironically shrug off and defend bad game design that is the definition of artificial difficulty.

I can't tell if you're trolling or not.
If not, you're basically crying that you should be able to eat the ghosts in pacman anytime you want, rather than only when you have the powerup.
Just learn the bosses, man.

Nice feet!

Still better than DaS1 could ever hope to be

You're misunderstanding what he's typed out pretty clearly
He's not complaining about enemies with their shields up

>Too many multi-phase, multi-health bar bosses
How many did it have? I cant even think of one off the top of my head other than Freide

>you're basically crying that you should be able to eat the ghosts in pacman anytime you want
Did you just compare an arcade game with consistent AI to a boss that reads inputs on actions that haven't even occurred in-game yet?
>Just learn the bosses, man.
Oh I did. I learned that you can trick Friede into dashing at you every time you Estus, and she'll drop whatever it is that she's doing to pull it off, because her AI is bad. She's like a more easily punished Fume Knight at that point.

kek

>hurr bosses in dark souls 3 suck ancient wyvern is so easy
>hurr bosses in dark souls 3 suck friede is too hard
>hurr where's muh capra demon and muh covetous demon and muh adjudicator and muh living failures

I'm not necessarily talking about Lothric Knights, they're just the best example. I've had more than enough occasions where they just stood there with their shields down, doing nothing, but the moment I pressed a button, they reacted. I've even dropped my guard to see if they'd do anything, and more often than not, they still waited for my input. I know a lot of that can be attributed to RNG, but it seems to be a recurring trend in my playthroughs at least.

The only enemies that have been consistent have been Satyrs and Corvians, and by consistency I mean endless stamina and hyper aggression. Specifically the jumping Satyrs, anyway.

Not him but that sounds really risky using your primary source of healing to bait her

1 is an unfinished clunky mess

if you had trouble with friede you are a pleb of the highest degree

The knights dude (first major boss), the princes, nameless king, soul of cinder.

Probably more, that’s just off the top of my head

I know people seem to hate that fight in general but I loved Friede so much on my first playthough I stopped my progression and just helped people beat her for like 10-12 hours of game time.

so you can equip the basic dagger and cheese her with FP regen and Quick Step.

You just run to the other end of the area and use any item, it's not just estus. 9/10 times she won't close the distance, and you get a free weapon buff, sippy, and/or you can beat the shit out of her.
It is, but that doesn't mean DaS3 is better.

Multi-health bar is not as prevalent, but I'm struggling to think of a boss that doesn't have at least two phases.

Vordt charges at you like a retard
Greatwood sprouts an arm-dick
Crystal Sage ganks you
Prowling Magus & Congregation 2.0 materializes a pope
Artorias cosplayers have two health bars, one for the winner of the costume contest ans another for the runner-ups
>Wolnir doesn't seem to change at all
Pontiff fights alongside his Dark Link clone
Trap-eater Aldritch turns into a flaming faggot
>Old Demon King gets more fiery, but overall he's the same
Twink & Butch prince have two - technically three - health bars, and a bareback phase
Cinder turns into Gwyn

In the main game, I can only recall Wolnir and Old Demon King just being regular fights. The rest all have multiple phases. I'm sure I missed a boss or two in the main game.

Every boss in either DLC has multiple phases.

OH YEAH
Iudex turns into a piss of man
Oceiros gets on all fours
Champion stays pretty consistent with his instant resets and no cooldown time whatsoever. So three bosses that are just straight up fights.

0/10
>nothing about le sad sif

For some reason i can't bring myself to even finish the first DS3 DLC. Maybe i'm just burned out on souls, but then again i have no problem going back to DS1 or DeS
DS3 and esepcially the DLCs jsut feel like a mix of cut BB content + cooky cutter DS1 remeber that ! shit

Champ's phase 2 starts at ~70%. He twirls his halberd and his eyes start glowing, after that he gains a charging attack and a 360 degree sweep.

>Everytime somebody has trouble with a DS3 enemy or boss, it's instantly because it's a "Bloodborne enemy", like that makes the slightest difference to anything at all.

It kinda makes an enormous difference. Some genuinely glaring design flaws arise from this happening.

Could have sworn he opens up with that charging sweep if you walk through the fog gate

>literally fighting a hobo

>manage to kill a couple of the phantoms
>host's testicles retract and they run away and summon them again
then i made a twink and started bullying the shit out of everyone i came across with phantoms (so 95% of invasions)

Maybe after you die to him, but when you first get to him he's bent over. Either way he does a pretty clear animation where he twirls his halberd when he enters phase 2, and will become far more aggressive immediately after.

The DLC was trash but Friede was the one of the best DLC bosses. Far surpassing Gael.

That picture is an awful lot of effort for a meme. I'm impressed.

>Harass a host and his phantoms
>He pms me and calls me a pussy

kek

Nothing will make you hate hosts as much as DS3. I now believe all people who summon deserve two to three red phantoms all at once. Also reds need to be able to attack through one another.

NK is the fight I thought this was most noticeable on - to the point where it began to feel really unfair. I ran with an UGS the first time I fought him, and after about 100 attempts, I had to switch to a SS before finally beating him. I've never felt like such a cheater in my life, and I'm not proud of it, but that fag knew when I was about to swing and would animation cancel into a wombo combo.

Friede and Soul of Cinder are very noticeable too, but not as punishing as NK who can end you in one combo.

>good luck
>I'm behind 6 phantoms

>They never made to so that white phahtoms scale down depending on how many allied phantoms there are

*white phantoms health

Why isn't the DLC on sale?

Why aren't you on sale?

If I summon more than one orange dude for a boss fight, do I get multiple medals?

It was definitely not as short as AoA but it was bad, yeah
I still remember how excited I was for insane lore bombs upon seeing the crawling pygmy lord only for it to amount to virtually nothing more than a Old Hunters callback

>Get invaded literally the second the invasion cooldown ends
yeah that sure was fun with the screaming fucking angels and shit swamp

yeah that DLC is truly fucking garbage. It's so boring