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dunno loot or sum shit

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>inb4 shill vid

What's with all the kotor 2 threads lately

Looking for people to play kotor online with I'll make a discord if anyone is interested

>[Intelligence] Amongst.

you faggots will argue about anything

New Star Wars movie has people longing for better content, and Star Wars games are on sale on Steam

Nope, I still haven't found good star wars games from after 2005-2006.

Fuck that guy it isn't about the new movie. Recurring threads are cyclical. Threads about X are extremely common for 1-3 months and then disappear completely for a few years, then return for another run of 1-3 months. Replace X with literally any game.

Handmaiden, why would i choose otherwise?

Republic Heroes wasn't terrible. It was 10% the sequel Jedi Power Battles should have had.

Kotor 2 being good is a meme by Obsidiots, the first game is more polished and complete. The thing was rushed and has an unsatisfying conclusion. All the good characters like Canderous and HK come from the original and everyone can be a jedi taking away any uniqueness they had.

Lucasarts force Obsidian to release early so they can get a quick cash grab for the holiday season. Pretty sure there's a mod out there that restores a portion of the unfinished content.

Kotor 2 is better if you ignore Kreia and the fact that it runs like ass.

>Kotor 2 being good is a meme by Obsidiots
I hate new vegas and everything Obsidian did after Kotor 2, but Kotor 2 is the only well-written star wars game ever made.

>It's unpolished and incomplete
It's still better.

KotOR 1 is still worse even without the restored content

>ignore Kreia

ah, you're a brainlet

>if you ignore Kreia
She was great, brainlets just couldn't understand why they were fucking up and just wanted a game to pat them on the back and give them gold stars. They're the type of soyboys that have a panic attack when someone in real life tells them they're wrong.

>Listening to Kreia
Ah, you're a faggot.

You, you sexy GILF.

>preaches grey teachings
>staying grey handicaps you gameplay wise
what the FUCK

I love KOTOR II over the first and I still agree with you. The last third of the game is a clusterfuck, and it wasn't pretty before then either.
Canderous was misused in II.

>I don't understand Kreia so she's bad

kek

>Star Wars is one of the biggest cases of the classic Good versus Evil conflicts, perhaps one of the better done ones in the OT
>Hey let's make a character that talks down on you for being either, but try and make it super deep n shit by having her talk about 'deeper effects' that normal people wouldn't think of in fucking Star Wars
She's there to be a condescending windbag that tries to spin you one way that you can't actually go.
Or from my experience, she's there to warm the fucking bench.

Is it even worth playing these games more than once? The only real choice that happens in 1 is the Bastilla fight.

She's there to give you the other point of view. The fact that you don't understand that reveals what a fucking retard you are considering she literally spells it out to your face.

You literally don't get the full story of KotOR 2 unless you do both a Light and Dark side run.

You don't even have access to all the dialogue options until you've gotten both endings

Wait, what?

The dark side pathway has some of the best dialogue of Kreia.
>It was as I thought.
>You have failed me. Completely, and utterly.

>She's there to give you the other point of view
Ye, the wrong one. Neutral morality may make some sense in real life, but when you have virtual demigods clashing across the galaxy. Good and evil is clear cut on the surface of the Force, with equally clear cut implications as you go deeper into the political sides that each influence. The understanding of the Jedi (and the Republic) and Sith (and the Empire) doesn't need some deep understanding of Cause and Effect through the Force. The Force is not there to be understood, it is there to be used as seen fit by each party.

I hate neutral fags as much as the next guy, but Kreia wasn't arguing for some "Grey side" of the force or some shit.
Besides, the Jedi Order in the Old Republic had some pretty major flaws as evident by their actions during that Mandolorian War.

She's literally there to challenge your beliefs and make you stand up for them instead of just blindly following a code of morality you don't understand. In the Light Side ending, she says "You are not a Jedi, not truly, and for that I love you." because in the KotOR era the Jedi are passive, xenophobic, and retarded. The Jedi Order you start is better than the last one because it's started by an Exile who was constantly challenged, forced to think for themselves and justify their actions.

>Good and evil is clear cut on the surface of the Force

That's exactly what Kreia is trying to talk you out of thinking the entire game. The hardline distinction between Light Side/Dark Side drives people on either side of the line to make stupid decisions instead of stopping to think about what they're doing.

youtube.com/watch?v=__gLIyeQYDU
Is there a more kino moment in video game history than visiting the rebuilt Jedi Enclave?
>It... it is different, it has been some time.

Anyone else read the Kotor II let's play?:
lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-Old-Republic-II/

I loved the game but there was sooooo much I didn't notice until someone else pointed it out for me.

The music is pure fucking sex

>do nar shadaa first
>tell handmaiden i trust visas and to shut her damn mouth
>from that point on, she literally wont speak to me, and she's not useful in your party until after you fuck her in the ass; so her storyline is completely lost to this playthrough

What is with all of the Kotor II threads lately?

All you gotta do is get Handmaiden's influence to max before you start talking to Visas, shit's easy. I didn't even know it was possible to make Handmaiden stop talking to you until I came to these threads.

Off topic, but if I enjoyed Kotor II a lot, would I enjoy Planescape: Torment?
It has the same writing right?

I'm surprised people think Kreia is difficult to please. I got enough influence with her that she told me her whole life story by the time we got to Telos.

The issue is that the Force itself is a living abstract of power, and in being so it instills aspects of itself into people as they use it. The OR Jedi had the exact issue of overthinking how they would affect the Galaxy as they worked, to the point where they wouldn't protect the Republic out of fear for the consequences.
That exact fear gave way to Revan and Malak who, in turn, rushed to the defense of the Republic, and in doing so saved it where the fearful Jedi could not.
To hesitate in using the Force is to misuse it.

Apathy is death.

GUYS

WHAT ARE ESSENTIAL MODS FOR A KOTOR II RUN?!

Hesitation isn't Apathy. It's worse.

PLAYER STRIPPER OUTFITS

These games have such boring gameplays, but great stories. So annoying.

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>spar with handmaiden
>she's in her underwear
>ask her to put some clothes on
>it doesn't seem to bother you
loved handmaiden, only character with actual underwear instead of the stupid looking one piece bathing suit thing from the first game. Actually Mira might have had sexy underwear too but I'd have to play again.

>brainlets and soyboys in one post
Keep trying, you're almost fitting in.

the fucking restored content mod

Vanilla until you get pretty much everything from it, then the restored content mod only after that.

>if you have enough influence with both they fight to the death over you in Malachor V

Nobody can win against the dick

For the evulz is the only kind of evil Kreia talks down to you for. She respected plenty of evil actions as long as they weren't mindless brutish stupid evil actions. And as long as you aren't playing "hurr I just wanna be Darth Douchebag killing everything just because its evil and gives xp" you're probably gonna max her influence out very quickly by choosing the dark side options.

Restored Content Mod is the only essential one. Droid planet restoration mod is optional but the content is bad.

I thought the only dialogue you didn't get was some one off line Atton makes the first time you meet him if you'd just done a Dark side run then a lightside run female and then did a third female exile run.

Visas.
Two extra holes.

there is no reason to do this

So I stop leveling up until I become a jedi?

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RCM is fucking stupid for your first run, it's only decent once you've gotten used to the game.

it fixes the game and story but its fucking stupid? what?

>it fixes the game
Love this meme.

It improves the story but the actual gameplay suffers.

there isnt really much gameplay in the first place.

So for KOTOR 1 I want to not level up at all until after the party escapes to Dantooine right?

Yeah and what's there is made worse because RCM restores a bunch of "fight X waves of enemies with a fucked up party selection" encounters that were cut because the devs didn't have time to finish them. It's worth it for the added writing and story but it does make the gameplay worse and should not be played as a first run.

>Never have you wondered what it would mean in the Echani rituals if the two of you sparred and fought - and you won, completely and utterly?
>If perharps she would give in, surrender herself to you?

Kreia please, I just want to make her a jedi, not turn her into my sex slave

You just need to become a jedi that happens early in dantooine.

I mean you are messing with her daughter.

All the detractors keep playing up this angle that because of star wars' origins, it can't be looked at in any other way. It's only because most star wars material is uninspired that there isn't more stuff like kotor 2 that looks at the setting in a different light.

>Viasa tries to kill me
>Kriea assumes that I want to bang her

Nice meme soy boy. 1 is the far better game.

>not fucking her to show dominance
I bet you also played as a male

Why didn't Kreia just lightspeed ram the force?

what video

star wars being morality for babies is fucking gay hang yourself

>Only recently found out that the Kotor 1 classes have their own pseudo THAC0 and Attacks per round tables
I mean it makes sense that soliders hit harder and more even with the same levels but I never thought about past feats before

The Imperials were still working on that, took them almost a hundred years to get it down right and the the Republic went and mucked it all up.

KOTOR 2 - should I go with jedi mage?

Can I use my party members as skill sinks? Or do I have to know these skills to use them in game?

Pretty sure KOTOR just uses a 3E D&D system

I "knew" it but at the same time I didn't think they went that far with it especially since the game is so easy that I never really looked past the surface too much

Not worth it, the last third of the game is you by yourself anyway

T3 is the only skill monkey you need outside yourself
He'll be the best no ifs ands or buts about it

Ahhh thanks user.

So Jedi Sentinel then?

KOTOR 2 fits perfectly well with the original philosophy of Star Wars, it's just told in a way that makes plebes think its grimderp 2deep4u shit, and on the flip side you have people who hate Star Wars and know nothing about it flock to the game and praise it as a "deconstruction"

The irony lost on both parties that they may as well be the Jedi and Sith zealots that Kreia warns the player about.

I played them both for the first time earlier this year, I enjoyed them both, but II was much better from a writing and mechanical standpoint. The RPG mechanics were a lot more fleshed out, companions were much more fleshed out, and had more interesting dialogue/plot overall. Kotor I had a much more black and white story by comparison with an added twist that was alright, the one companion that had a pretty interesting stance was Jolee.

Sith Lord/Jedi Master are OP as fuck, you may get BTFO in the early levels but once you get force storm and your build going you can clear entire rooms by yourself

And the game is designed for you to make dedicated companions in certain skills

youtube.com/watch?v=LPsRp7uUXUk

You obviously haven't played KOTOR 2 if you think it isn't a deconstruction

Take Sentinel with 15 INT then for your first feat take the Repair proc
and when putting your skills in put two points in Demolition then save the rest for your first level up
Then max out Computer Use, Repair Persuasion and keep it maxed the whole game
You can dump another two points in Demo but then never again since mines are really only relevant here and nowhere else

Thanks user!

They are worse than simply staying a Consular.

I usually prestige out of them after Sentinel purely for the class name
That is literally it. Then I put on my fancy Jedi Master robes if they dropped for me as a Good Boy

so do I play as a dude or a chick?

The problem is going Jedi Master/ Sith Lord doesn't really do much to enhance you ability as a caster. Jedi Master is slightly better with it's bonus to wisdom, but even that amounts to at most +2 to force rolls if your wisdom was at an odd number before the boost. Functionally any character can spam lightning once you get to the prestige class stage, and three levels later when you unlock storm you have enough of a force pool that you can spam it even if you're just a Guardian who takes Marauder or even Weapon Master.

Further Sith Lord and Jedi Master get screwed over by their key selling point, being able to more easily influence your party memebers matter much. Even if you completely max out a party member's alignment they don't actually end up getting the stat boost the attribute screen says they do in battle.

What it ends up amounting too is that both the caster prestige classes are entirely redundant and get shafted mechanically compared to either of other two choices of either alignment, with Sith Lord being the statistically weakest class. The extra force points and occasional extra force power you get on level up are entirely redundant by the time you hit level 15, you get no real feats to speak of compared to Watchman/Assassin or Weapon Master/ Marauder, and the class power tree that both get are both underwhelming versions of battle meditation anyways.

Lore wise Sith Lord is still my favorite way to play, but literally the only thing it has going for it is access to force potency form to boost the already high damage of force storm.

One game as both

Luke Skywalker dies
also Snoke dies