Is innovation always a good thing?

is innovation always a good thing?

PSP Go did it in 2009

nothing is ALWAYS a good thing retard

Depends on thee innovation. Motion controls seemed like the future for a while. Then developers realized it was just too much hassle.
The DS introduced a second screen to handhelds, which ended up being a pretty convenient addition .
But now they're trying to make VR a thing. It's simply too expensive to make it into a normal thing. Like motion controls, it only introduces more hassle to gameplay.

When it's purely utilitarian like the Switch it's hard to call it bad.

I'll add that VR just can't be applied in a meaningful way to a lot of video game genres.

No, it's not always a good thing

Wasn't that just a psp with internal memory for digital downloads?

And no UMD reader and a weird 90s cellphone-like design where you slide it to reveal the buttons.

>Motion controls seemed like the future for a while.
They eventually settled on practical things like precise aiming and unique puzzles. Or so it seemed, until they decided that hat throws in Odessa rely on jerking your controllers around for no reason..

yes, you couldn't play any physical UMD games

Do I have to stand up and salute while I say the company slogan, or is that optional

No but this was good. The Wii U sucked ass and ignored how awful it feels needing to look down at your controller. It sucks. Innovation should be what all consoles are focused on and not just providing a cheaper alternative to PC.

Plus convenient dock and ability to connect to DS3. Its downfall was having a predecessor, people hate things being taken away even if they are useless.

>how awful it feels needing to look down at your controller
>but Switch was good though because you can look down at your controller all the time if you want

>Makes a Vita but a tiny bit more powerful
>INNOVASHUN

>Physical media
>Useless

I liked how it combined convenience of a regular controller with motion controls for aiming and touch controls for menus. Almost like combined keyboard and mouse in your hands, except typing is meh.

The Switch had a failed predessor. Maybe there is a mystical force keeping failed and successful consoles balanced.

On a handheld? Absolutely. Pants on head retarded disk drive took up fucking half of the regular PSP.

>and a weird 90s cellphone-like design where you slide it to reveal the buttons.
I liked that, it's kind of like the DS clamshell design but more compact.

and yet you still owned the damn games instead of having them tied to an account. Fuck digital media, it's awful not having some way to keep your game if a service ends.

The virtual boy was innovative, was that a good thing?

Isn't Polygon the same fucking place that said the Nintendo Switch is going to tank because nobody wants its innovation?

Switch is not innovative, its gimmicky

Websites like this are unholy abominations and cancer.

sauce?

and gimmicks are always bad?

Reminder that people who don't like the wii u are probably weak as fuck wristlets who can't hold the controller at eye level in line with a TV.

>>your entire PSP physical library is useless but that's OK but you can rebuy your games

Innovation is always good. It's what keeps the industry from becoming stale.

A zog?

>a tablet with a dock and two controllers is innovative

Then don't buy Go. Why would you buy a new console when you have the old one?

>this year we have the Switch
Yeah, I can scarcely remember all those years I have had the 3DS, the DS, the GBA and the Game Boy with me on holidays.

NINTENDO IS DOOMED

THEY'RE GOING TO BE BANKRUPTED JUST WATCH

AAAAANY SECOND NOW

You should see Enter the Gungeon 2 player with joycons.

OP destroyed.

Nintendo is always the one to innovate when the others in the industry has fallen with their samey bullshit or rehashing the same shit to sell to a newer audience.

The fact that switch created a whole new console concept where you can literally play games without being tethered to a TV means that it's perfect for a modern lifestyle where you can go anywhere anytime anyplace which makes it akin to the evolution of phones to smartphones in terms of revolution for how future consoles would be like.

So yes, the Switch is most likely the most innovative console in decades and will be for a long time as Nintendo has completely changed the landscape of gaming and games for the better.

So innovative, I've never seen anything like it.

Those are handhelds, the switch is a entire different class of consoles a new genesis of innovation where it allows gamers for the first time in history to play console games portably rather than worse versions of a handheld game.

This is why the switch is selling, innovation such as this as never been seen or done before where anyone could play a real console game on a portable console.

Wow so innovative.

No. But you rarely ever improve without it.

Psp model 2 have TV out in 2005

My point was that I don't like this attitude of people looking down on handhelds. They were *made* for the sole purpose of being able to take it with you (and to provide dev platforms with lower production costs and thus lower risk).

Also, the Switch is still pretty much a souped-up handheld that is being marketed primarily through the "it connects to a TV!" feature (to the point that Nintendo is supposedly discouraging the development of games that would take advantage of the handheld mode, to my chagrin).

It doesn't always work. But without trying new ideas and risking failure, it's not possible to find the next big thing. If nobody took those kinds of risks, we would just have stagnation.

I haven't read the article or watched the video, but yeah.
The Switch absolutely is the most innovative console in more than a decade.

Consoles have *always* been about convenience to the end-user. Why go to the arcade when you can take Pac-Man and Space Invaders home? Why fiddle with a billion install discs and unreliable drivers when you can just plug a cartridge into your SNES?
Even during the PS1/N64/Dreamcast era, when consoles began to be more explicitly about power, the sales pitch was always "Look how powerful this console is, while also being braindead easy and convenient to operate!"

Since the PS3/360 era, console makers have completely forgotten that, and consoles became about power at the expense of all else. That's how you get the PS4 and Xbone, which are consoles that insist upon themselves without actually earning it. That's how you end up with "Cinematic Experiences" that are barely games. With 65 gigabyte updates. With Homescreen UIs that are slow, laggy, and full of unneeded flourishes.

The Switch walks that back a bit. It remembered what a console was supposed to be, and makes consoles about convenience again. The Switch has done more for the basic concept of the home console than any console made since the PS1. It's not as powerful as the PS4 or Xbone, granted, but it's fast and sharp and accomodating in a way you'd think a video game console in 2017 would and should be, but weirdly isn't.

they're taking off and the switch is selling for a profit

I don't mind the concept but it made it kind of uncomfortable to hold

>People are playing on handhelds or phones
>"Eww what a nerd"
>Nintendo makes yet another handheld
>"Is this the mos innovative console on the market?" article every month
???

Success is more than having ideas its being the first to implement it successfully. By this logic Nintendo should be receiving sole credit for VR because they tried it first with the Virtual Boy.

>convenient dock and ability to connect to DS3.
Good meme user. Do me a favor and look at what those docks go for these days.

Don't forget the proprietary memory cards, which they continued with the vita because they wanted to experience failure twice

>innovative
>a bigger handheld is innovative.

not for Sony.
All of their home consoles have been phenomenal successes.
Even the one that had a dreadful start

>These days

Because they stopped making them.

I played the shit out of Monhun on my big screen using that thing.

To be more precise, I would go into gaming lobbies using AD hoc party, then play it on my big screen.

I also played a lot of Phantsy Star Portable using the same set-up.

Some damn good times with that set-up. The PSP go achieved what Nintendo is doing now years ago. A dock in charging system that allowed big screen gaming with conventional controllers and portable gaming all in one device.

People acting like Nintendo is doing something new is pretty sad. It is bizzaro world though, usually Sony copies the shit out of Nintendo.

I do wonder if they released a TV Dock for the Vita with the ability to synch PS4 controllers to it, if it would take get some more sales.

Shit wouldn't be hard to accomplish, but Sony basically abandoned that pony.

Doesn't have third party support for shit.

Doesn't have VR

Don't give a fuck about it, user. Nintendo has been dead to me since the N64, which had only a handful of good games, but the bulk were shit and even the 'good games' were pretty terrible and didn't age well at all.

>tiny bit more powerful
That's like comparing the original iphone with the ipad pro, saying that the ipad pro is just a tiny bit more powerful.

Also the key difference is the Switch actually has games.

There is nothing in your post about "innovation".

>Also the key difference is the Switch actually has games.
Post disregarded.

Ok, back on topic, the Switch isn't very innovative. The removable controllers is a cool addition, but has yet to feel necessary.

The actual innovation that I hope microsoft and sony steal is HD rumble. That's awesome and works really really well.
I wish sony and microsoft would pick up on motion supplemented aiming in FPS games like Splatoon does, but nobody's doing it despite it clearly and obviously being superior.

Overall, I like the Switch, but the Wii U was a more innovative console.

>REDDIT SPACING
Out

Nu controllers connect like ape dong

The fact that you can bring and take your console anywhere and play them at any time with it's own screen makes it the most innovative gaming console ever designed unless you're an idiot.