Gran Turismo 6 servers shutting down March 28th 2018

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The fact that games still shut down in this day and age without a means to play on player-made servers is a huge mistake.

I feel like they will someday look back on all these lost communities and lost games rather like they did when they figured out, "oh shit, we should have kept the art assets and source code to our old video games"

More like "Buy the new game with less features on the new console, goyim"

Ironically, games shutting down their servers is the entire reason I no longer play on consoles.

Im sure a lot of normies are fine with it though

I get your point but many games on PC these days don't allow you to play on dedicated servers.
I fucking hate matchmaking system anyway. Server list >>>>>>>> literal shit > matchmaking system

One of the reasons I switch to PC a decade ago. GT5 and 6 were bad anyway. Got the 5th in a pack after my PS3 FAT died, it was ultra meh.

JUST PAY YOUR PSN PLUS GOY
OH BTW HERE MULTIPLATFORM TRASH AS
"""""""""""""FREE"""""""""""""""" GAME

for the players

Thing is, many new PC games dont allow for consumer side servers either

They're at it again.

I remember when Sony shut down GT5 as soon as GT6 came out and stated it was to boost 6's sales and nothing more.

Sony is fucking disgusting.

server lists are really good for games but developers just insist on matchmaking for stupid reasons.

This is true, but I feel like its more of the minority.
It could get to be worse in the future though

I MISS YOU MAG, YOU MY BOY BLUE, YOU MY BOY

There's not a single game worth playing, gameplay wise, with matchmaking and no dedicated servers anyway

Why has GT gone the way it has? 4 was the peak. It used to be such a standard bearer.

I can't find anything similar to its gameplay. I've tried Project cars 2 but it's not the same. I want to start my my shitty Jap econoboxes and work up to supercar 24 hour events.

well we have gt sport now, its fun as fuck

The worst thing is that GT Sport is straight up a MUCH worse game, and they're killing GT6 only to basically force people to """Upgrade""" since otherwise many simply wouldn't.
They did the same with GT5 servers when GT6 came out btw, but GT6 was actually an improvement over GT5.

What about the login bonuses?

Kaz tried to make the fanbase a Sports racer one in GTS.
Actually GTS is way better than two months ago. Physics are really good now and there is GT(alike) mode again.

If a game's multiplayer only has matchmaking and no server browser, it's not worth playing to begin with, this is true 100% of the time from my experience.

Reminder that GT6's netcode is one of the most horrible ever done and lacks any kind of Dedicated Servers.

It's still inferior to GT6 in everything but graphics even after the "mythical" 1.10 patch.
And don't call the new SP mode with literally copypasted some of GT5 and GT6 events (they're LITERALLY COPYPASTED) an "actually good GT-like mode" because that's an insult.
GT Sport is literally nothing more than another generic Forza/PCars reskin as it stands.
This isn't my Gran Turismo, it's a soulless cashcow made to be milked with DLC and microtransactions much like its competitors.
Forza ended with 4, GT ended with 6, NFS ended with Most Wanted (the original).

You idiot. How can it be milked if DLC ARE FREE!?
Stick your head outta your own ass, downgrade your N400 or try to win with a downgraded Miata against RX7, Vettes and Vipers.

They are free for now and only because of the massive backlash, same as BattlEAfront 2.
The second backlash dies down, you will get jewed and you'll like it.
Also enjoy your laughable car roster, lack of event and car variety and blatant eSports soulless cashgrab.
You're a blatant Sony shill anyway so I don't know why I bother replying.

Oh I forgot, GT5 and 6 were zombies with an incomplete ripped off career mode from GT4, so please don't talk about using same assets in GTS when 5 and 6 did it and way, way worse in it.

GT5 and GT6 career modes were actually new, they didn't copypaste the same literal events from their predecessors with the same literal textures for logos and everything like GT Sport did.
The only thing that was actually copypasted in 5 and 6 was the GT4 car models for standard (used) cars.

The 1.10 DLCs were always meant to be free, dumbass.
Also this.
>Originally questioned by Gema Show Indo, Kazunori Yamauchi’s response confirmed online updates and DLC including both cars and tracks. When asked again for clarification on microtransactions, the response was a decisive “no”.

Need for speed most wanted was so fucking good. Only one other than hot pursuit 2 that felt like a real evolution of the series

6 actually had new cups, like the Hybrid one.
But 5? 5 was a copy of 4 but with worse quality, Ferraris and the Madrid circuit which was fun.

Considering they gave the game away free with PS4's on Black Friday. It's going to become Microtansaction and DLC hell next year when everyone is OK with it since now everyone is OK with Always Online single-player. Boiling that frog nicely.

Called this shit. GT5 did the same thing, not long after six came out they killed the servers. Said the same thing with sport would happen but people said I was paranoid since it wasn't on the same console and not directly competing with it but I figured it would happen.

Not too torn up about it haven't played 6 in ages but still a dick move because I know of a few people who still play it over Sport.

Money is not a stupid reason

Considering they gotta kill Kaz first let me doubt it very much.
Kaz is Godlike inside Sony, if not he would've been fired after GT6

And obviously you didn't see the Server debacle of last week.
Nobody could save online GTS because the servers thought the traffic was a DDoS attempt, lmfao.
People is still mad as fuck(and with reason)
They should have two saves anyway, an offline one and a antihacking checked online one.

Underground 1 and 2 didn't feel like evolution to you?
Underground 1 introduced Nitrous and robust tuning, Underground 2 expanded on that and added open world.
Most Wanted actually didn't feel like an evolution, the car models were still the Underground ones, not new models (other than for the brand new cars), open world wasn't a new feature and the only actually "new" feature (cops) was actually an old feature from Hot Pursuit brought back because that's what people missed from Underground games.
Most Wanted was basically a greatest hits of gameplay features for the series.
It's everything after it that was literal rehash garbage with increasingly less effort and quality put into it. Even Hot Pursuit 2010 which while not utter shit, was merely decent at best and literally everything between it and Most Wanted as well as everything that came after was trash.
Most Wanted 2012 was a literal Burnout Paradise City clone but without the fun and destruction, it didn't even have a career/SP mode.

Them killing GT6 in favour of Sport just further cemented my hate towards nuPolyphony and nuSony, they can kill the servers all they want, I'm still not going to buy Sport and they can kindly fuck off. I'll just stick to playing GT6 offline and GT2 on my Vita.

>GT2
Patrician taste, fukken Espace F1 is hilarious to drive

I'd rather have GT4 portable but handheld devices still can't handle PS2 emulation.

Oh and before you suggest the PSP one, sure it's a port of GT4 in terms of cars and stages, but it's limited to only max 4 cars per tracks and has no career mode and literally only has Arcade so it can fuck right off.

gt sport is the best arcade sim

>GTPSP
OH HELL NO.
Worse than even GTS.

I don't even understand why they made it.
Sure it's extremely visually impressive, getting GT4 physics and models to actually work on PSP in 60 FPS no less, but dear god it literally has no game modes.
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea?
It's wasted potential: the game

I'll give you a funfact
>It was forced by Sony, Kaz didn't want to make a game for PSP, he was too busy developing GTHD... and as a consequence GTHD became a tech demo and GTPSP sucked hard

More like:
>lmaoing@all those stupid fucking goyims who gives a single fuck about those money shitting subhumans? Now buy our newest shit you money milking corporate whore and suck that dick real deep n good!

PROTIP: they don't give a shit, never have never will. Not even MUH NINTENDO. Their only objective is to earn money - and as much of it as possible. They would kill babies if it was legal and would make them money.

Most arcade racing games on PC don't have a third-party servers either. It's only the hardcore sims that still have it.

>dedicated server
>piratefags everywhere
I guess you also want them to remove every DRM in ''''your'''' games

>peoplw acting like they still play on PS3

Sony and all big corporations are cancer as usual, not surprised.

Dedicated servers don't equal piracy, you're a complete tech illiterate idiot.

PS Plus money well spent.

I do, there's still a backlog of games I've yet to finish, including the Yakuza games, currently emulating Yakuza 2 on PC before I go into the rest of them on PS3. And I never stopped playing GT6.

See the good thing in this.
Sony gave Carte blanche to Kaz after 6.
GTS has potential to become amazing.

Wtf? I still play 6 and use online to farm easy credits.

Fuck you Sony.

>F1 2017 and PCARS 2 already have more e-sports facilitation built in and backing than GTS
>Sim racing community thinks GTS is a joke and doesn't want to play it. Especially because you can't even organise a league season like iRacing.
>Safety rating system has been broken already since you can just beat and bang for two sectors and then put in
>The setups and physics for the speedways are wrong as fuck especially when you compare them to the real world inspirations (Northern Isle/Dover and Blue Moon Bay/Pocono).

Bravia Kaz. That FIA licence was worth the millions spent on it.

>NFS ended with Most Wanted (the original).
carbon was okay

>muh dedicated servers
they aren't worth fucking shit unless the game allows for community content to be made and for server admins to have a lot of flexibility with the ruleset/moderation tools

and if it isn't literally AAAAA tier like CoD then it'll also need some quick match option to keep a steady supply of casuals interested because lord knows they bounce off anything without one these days a robust and strong support for bots works as a substitute though

It was objectively inferior, which is the entire point, it wasn't better, it was worse. Was it okay? Sure. But it was worse, which is the goddamn problem. The series stopped improving after Most Wanted.

i've just started riding that ps3 dick, getting CFW on it is easy af + if you're a superslim babby, you can buy games for peanuts

GT6 was on PS3, though.

The day PS4 servers start shutting down is shit, though.

but this game is only 4 years old.

>PCars better esports with that Netcode
>Safety rating has been reworked already and makes it closer to iRacing
Yeah well no. By the way nice source in those inspirations, specially when according to geographic location both speedways are in the US.

Gran Turismo 5 online was amazing. it seriously is such bullshit they shut it down too soon.

GTPSP isn't that bad, you still have terrain levels and a lot of racing tracks. Yea the 4 player players suck but it was a fun way to play Gran Turismo outside.

This is my first GT game and I'm having fun ;_;

And it will be even better with time.
Apparently next thing they're adding is wet conditions in all tracks(foggy Nordschleife has wet track already)

I still waiting for concepts from Italdesign Giugiaro, General Motors and Daihatsu, and now they closing that game. : (

The point is that GT2 is a MUCH better and more comprehensive portable experience and you can play that on both PSP and Vita, leaving no reason to ever play GTPSP.

Daihatsu's VGT is in GTS, same with Bugatti, Hyundai and Zagato

>there's still a backlog of games I've yet to finish
There's only 5 games you need to play on PS3 which should have been beaten before PS4 came out

You're an imbecile if you think there's only 5 exclusives worth playing on PS3, please kill yourself.

Did anyone actually played GT6 online on a regular basis? i tried getting into it for a week but the shit netcode coupled with the everyone's abysmal driving made me just forget about it.
When is Sports getting GT mode back by the way?

I only used Online for Seasonal Events, I never joined a racing lobby lmao.
And they'll be expanding GT league with each updates, there are too few cars and tracks yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they add the Yaris/Vitz turbo so they can put a Yaris cup like in older GT(for example)

for the players

>Demon Souls
>Yakuza 4 (3 and 5 are terrible)
>GOW3
>Infamous 2
>Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time
>GT5

Nothing else that's only tied to the PS3 is worth touching

NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 was good

>consoles

No, it was merely decent and still inferior to what came before, namely Hot Pursuit 2 and the Underground1/2/Most Wanted games.

>The worst Infamous
>Y4 but no 5
>God of War not in the trash where it belongs
>No Motorstorm Pacific Rift/Apocalypse, No Resistance 1/3, no Folklore, no 3D Dot Heroes, no LBP2, no Infamous 1, no MLB2012, no ToD/ITN, no Tokyo Jungle, no Katamari Forever, no War/Starhawk, no Everybody's Golf, Darkstalkers Resurrection, no Initial D: Extreme Stage, no Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom
Fucking awful taste holy Christ

>"oh shit, we should have kept the art assets and source code to our old video games"

Corporate never thinks this. They look at old assets and think "This is ancient and ugly. Focus testing says no one will ever want to play this ever again."
Old source is just wasted space and preserving it costs money.

Even "lel buy it again on PSN" Sony refuses to make the console actually backwards compatible because "lmao who plays old games? Buy FIFA (current year) you fucking nerd."

Dedicated servers only in a multiplayer game is a really bad thing. Even forcing to use a dedicated internet page for browsing servers (like Battlefield 3 onwards) either for dedicated servers or servers created by fans are a bad thing
They should allow both of them.

>The worst Infamous
Better powers and varied abilities and good and evil actually matter in 2
>Y4 but no 5
5 has terrible pacing and garbage idoltrash that amounted to nothing
>God of War not in the trash where it belongs
Tell me why you like Yakuza but dismiss GOW
>No Motorstorm Pacific Rift/Apocalypse
modnation racers better
>No Resistance 1/3
Most mediocre series ever made, worse than the Killzone series
>no Folklore
Overrated trash, have to run through the same levels with the other character for the full story.
>no 3D Dot Heroes, no LBP2
Maybe if you're a 5 year old
>MLB2012
Why play that when 17 is out?
>no ToD/ITN, no Tokyo Jungle, no Katamari Forever
Padding list with garbage games, getting desperate
>no War/Starhawk
Dead online
>no Everybody's Golf
Yeah the ps4 one is out
>Darkstalkers Resurrection
Remake
>no Initial D: Extreme Stage
Trashy licenced shovelware
>no Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom
Xbox

Fuck me PS3 is the worst console ever

GT League is more of a joke than I could have imagined it would be. Payouts are still garbage and no free cars after completing a series. There's really not much reason to even bother unless you are too shit to even win custom races.

It reminds me of how people were complaining that Street Fighter V lacked single player content because it didn't have an "Arcade" mode. It had versus against the CPU and the brief story mode for each character. It was essentially the same thing.

And the physics are still incredibly numb compared to other sims.

Microtransactions and DLC are not the same thing. Pretty sure GTS will have paid DLC at some point.

>Sony refuses to make the console actually backwards compatible because
the console literally lacks the laser to read those discs and the extra hardware to process the ps3 games is cost prohibitive.

STOP KILLING GAMES

>When is Sports getting GT mode back by the way?
It's already back but it's really limited.

The new mission mode is far more interesting anyway. Not very fun or educational but more interesting than "start last in a pack of retarded chimpanzees over and over again" anyway...

>the extra hardware to process the ps3 games is cost prohibitive.
Wasn't prohibitive on the PS2 or PS3.

If "The Cell" is too expensive to miniaturize or emulate it's Sony's own damned fault for trying to make PS3 games unportable in a stupid bid to smother Xbox.
Only reason that didn't bite their ass was because Microsoft's equally terrible quality control.

>Better powers and varied abilities and good and evil actually matter in 2
The powers matter fuck all when half of them are either reskins of another one or objectively worse than another and swapping between them is tedious as fuck. Nevermind the dogshit writing and awful map.
And lmao @ you thinking choices matter more.
>5 has terrible pacing and garbage idoltrash that amounted to nothing
First is objectively incorrect and the second is subjective.
>Tell me why you like Yakuza but dismiss GOW
It has shit going for it besides mediocre combat
>modnation racers better
Different genres bro
>Most mediocre series ever made, worse than the Killzone series
Literally two of the best console exclusive shooters ever made
>Overrated trash, have to run through the same levels with the other character for the full story
That element is tedious (outside of maybe 2 realms) but the game as a whole is still solid
>Maybe if you're a 5 year old
Ah yes because only children can enjoy excellently designed and fun games if they have no gore or fanservice
>Why play that when 17 is out?
It has shit that 17 doesn't
>Padding list with garbage games, getting desperate
You should kill yourself desu
>Dead online
Nope, like many PS3 games they've gained a small cult following and can still be played online. It's actually ridiculous how many weird mp games on PS3 are still active - you can even play the TF2 port that never got a single patch or bugfix on it easily.
>Yeah the ps4 one is out
Which is radically different in terms of structure, visuals, and content on offer
>Remake
And the best way to play them, though after checking this is also on 360 like Majin was. Weird.
>Trashy licenced shovelware
I pity you for not playing one of the best arcade racers of last gen
>Fuck me PS3 is the worst console ever
Nope

Dedicated servers help to contain faggots like the 29th ID Division from Red Orchestra.

You don't like them,you avoid their server,if they come to sperg their recruitment crap you ban them from your server,if they cry on forums and ignore them is a win win cause all you have to say is that you don't allow recruitment on your server and for that you are free to ban them.

Also years ago there it was a program called ASE,it had a fucking small install requirements,you could easily integrate the IRC client on it,browse servers even the unlisted ones on game server's list and integrate many other crap on it.Then it was killed by yahoo and since GS is no longer a thing I doubt people will be able to resurrect it,ok Steam comes with a server browsers but is a walking joke.

>caring about Gran Autismo no fun simulator

>Wasn't prohibitive on the PS2 or PS3.
PS2, no. But the PS3 was $600 at launch because of the PS2 components. I'd say that was pretty prohibitive and the PS3 components would be even moreso.

I do, I still coop with randoms on some of the games too.

Reminder that outside of MMOgames that MS has allowed third party servers on, everything in Xbox Live is P2P with master servers that are VMs on Azure.
There is literally no reason for them to switch it all off, since the VMs aren't using resources if XBL Gold players aren't using them.

For once and only once, Xbox is actually doing better than PC...

They ran the servers for 5 years, I'm not mad and no one else should be.

Be happy that GT6 still has a good single player mode.

>because of the PS2 components

No.

>"The Cell" is too expensive to miniaturize or emulate
It isn't.
Cell is literally a single core modified PPC970FX with SMT but OoO removed* (the PPE) with 8 (actually 7 and really 6**) 'SPE's that are just fast vector processors with around ~20GFLOPs each (so 120GFLOPs total*** of fast floating point and vector math)

*literally the same as the 360, except the 360 has 3 cores
** 8 SPEs on die, 1 disabled on all chips for yield purposes (later die shrinks only had 7 in hardware with none disabled) and 1 reserved for the hypervisor - leaving 6 SPEs for developer use
***no where near 120 since latency between SPEs was different and devs couldn't account for the timing differences due to the 8/7/6 situation and no knowing which numbers SPEs were enabled and usable

No only could a GPU emulate Cell's SPEs quite fat, but Intel and AMD's AVX extensions already do a good enough job the offloading it to GPU is now a waste...

PS4 can't tap into that though as Jaguar doesn't have AVX.
Sony could make a PS3 emulator for PS4Pro though - just not for the regular PS4.

>Gran Turismo 6

Wait what, when did it release?

Indeed, it's silly that Sony should run the servers in a VM so that if noone is using them it doesn't use any resources, what a silly notion.

>$500 4K console
>opt not to play 4Kbluray
>opt not to play PS3 games

Sony needs a kick in the teeth