Why is sexual objectification OK if it's done to men, but not to women?
Why is sexual objectification OK if it's done to men, but not to women?
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When men sees Dude McStrongarms, they imagine themselves as that guy.
When women sees Gal McFapbait, they take offense because she's way more attractive than they are.
Men drag themselves up to a rolemodel. Women drag rolemodels down to their level.
Because it's not sexual objectification when done to men, it's male power fantasy.
because gaming and the media is controlled by liberals and liberal are just giant man hating hypocrites
there was a case recently where an internal email form the democratic party was leaked in which they flat out told them not to hire white men anymore regardless if they were the most qualified
Because men are comfortable with their sexuality!
does that mean Females aren't allowed to play games like that though?
Because it's hardly a 'male power fantasy' if a female is playing it...
post cleo
>does that mean Females aren't allowed to play games like that though?
No, they aren't. Ironically, in modern feminism woman aren't allowed to have choice, the greater good is more important. But it's not oppressing them and don't you dare suggest it is. Only white males oppress.
Also, this.
Because women are disgusting
what does that have to with anyone supposedly controlling gaming?
It is obviously ok for both as is evident by the presence of both in games, more so for females but fiddy fiddy ain't some gold standard. Also there is nothing wrong with having one of the qualities attributed to you being you being sexy.
Because men are attractive.
Well, I'm all for sexual objectification of both, but there are some things I have to mention here,
1. men are entirely allowed to be shirtless in public and no one is going to gasp at the sight of their nipples, making this image less sexual than if one would put a woman in the same position,
2. objectification of women is so common that what of objectification of men there is just doesn't feel as a good balance, and
3. dumb people are loudest complainers.
But that's, like, your opinion on it mate
Because it implies strength instead of weakness, and activeness instead of passiveness
haha
i wonder what it feels to get a titjob from those pecs
You study "Modern Feminism"?
Men are strong, the can defend themselves against rape unlike woman so there's no trouble with wearing little clothes.
The body of men has been used as inspiration for the body of gods and titans, woman are meant to be protected and cloistered, only to be enjoyed by the very man that chooses her as breeding tank.
>1. men are entirely allowed to be shirtless in public and no one is going to gasp at the sight of their nipples
No but ladies don't tend to walk around bare chested even in videogames.
probably not very nice. his rough chest hair would just constantly scratch your sensitive skin
I'm not saying that one is inherently ok while the other isn't, I'm saying that one is demonized while the other passes under the radar just fine, like pic related.
>defend themselves against rape
tell that to a woman and see how triggered she get´s by implying that woman are weaker then men. you can´t have it both ways. either you are equal in every way and therefore have to accept the same treatment or you are weaker and have to accept an unequal representation in society
Is Gilgamesh the coolest name in vidya or what?
hot
why are people in ancient times buff
Try coolest name in huma history.
>synthol
Because they have the blood of gods in them
They had to be buff to survive, on top of work being harder back then.
That said Gilgamesh lived for over a hundred years as a demigod among men so he was probably in tip top shape even by today's standards.
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIT
What if my "power fantasy" is to be a strong sexy woman? Why should a bunch of fat angry dykes keep me from exploring that aspect of my personality?
>realistic roid gut
neat
>implying that's synthol
That's fucking natty, have some real synthol instead.
this is true
There should equality of opportunities based on meritocracy, there are less certainly but there are woman smart enough to be doctors or engineers and men affective enough to be teachers or nurses, but still woman need to understand rapers give a fuck about any moral changes they try to impose on society, rape has never been accepted and the cases of people getting away with it are because of corruption or nepotism not some misterious exarch imposing male rule on reality.
How can one guy be such a retard?
What's going on in this idiots head? Does he really think he's fooling anybody?
Body dysmorphia...of another kind
But in magical video game land gender doesn't make any difference, so you should expect women to go tits out if they choose because they have no problem protecting themselves.
he's way to smol to be Gilgamesh
Girugamesh's sexuality is a huge part of his character. Presumably they would/do the same if there was a female ruler with a similar reputation.
those two posts sums up male narrative on objectification
a) baww aww generic muscular men are suddenly hurting my feelings
b) I've always looked up generic muscular men but i'm still a slob for some reason
>those pecks and hands
>natty
Men usually arent objectified so welcome it or envy it. Women are objects but pretend they have value and meaning beyond status and babymaking.
One of these ideas is a joke. Sup Forums wont be able to figure out which.
Ah yes...power fantasy...haha...
Why is dopey's art so good?
The idea that's a joke is you user, you silly billy.
>Men usually arent objectified so welcome it or envy it.
I dunno, it's pretty hard finding games which don't fit one of the two niches.
There's baras, there's grizzled daddies (i.e. Hollywood superstar expies) and finally there's bishies. Normal looking guys are few and far between and that was one of the main reasons why people on Sup Forums like to roll female characters so much. The alternative was made to be schlicked off to.
>Men usually arent objectified so welcome it or envy it.
Men are constantly objectified, just in a different way. Men are largely treated as labor animals, particularly by women. The majority do not welcome or envy this.
let's be honest, a game with George Costanza as he MC will not sell as much as those other examples.
If the ISHYGDDT expression was tied to a button, bat and everything, I'd play it
Technically, video games aren't objectifying anybody. They're personifying masses of pixels.
Trevor
>tfw noone bats an eyelid that Rockstar have never once had a female lead.
Oni
leftists entire outlook on the world is built on double standards user.
>can't be sexist against men
>can't be racist against whites
>violence is bad unless it's against people I don't like
>women never lie about sexual assault, even though it's been proven many times they do
>complain about "rape culture" and then go on to protect muslim nations that actually do dominate women
>free speech is good, unless it's "hate speech"
>quotas are good, unless it's something whites have low numbers in (sports instead of jobs based on IQ for instance)
>leftists entire outlook on the world is built on double standards user.
That's news to me, user.
I think you may have a distorted idea of your political opponents, user. You may be a bit closed off in your echo chamber.
Sup Forums isn't an echo chamber. Anyone can come and post here.
Men don't mind seeing bodybuilders in games because beefheads like that aren't the male ideal. When straight western guys see an attractive male character, they get just as offended and sensitive as women. Just look at FF15. The shitfit they threw over all the guys being too attractive was embarrassing. Western men are just as bad as western tumblrcunts, if not worse.
That's actually pretty true.
But not everyone does.
Yeah. Atleast games from Asia are still untainted.
Then you haven't been paying attention for very long.
I was merely pretending, user. Of course each board on Sup Forums is to some extent an echo chamber. Sup Forums and Sup Forums are the famous ones, politically, but even /tg/ and /lit/ have their own parroted views (centrism on /tg/, esotericism on /lit/).
>beefheads like that aren't the male ideal
hello soyboy
reddit is that way
Ah, I didn't realise this American media site talking about American right-wing politics was, in fact, the sum total of leftism. I see now that I have always applied double standards to everything I come across.
He's right though. Only a small subset of the population are attracted to it, which is why it's a fetish.
I'm sure that made sense before you posted it.
lol btfo
WHERE IS HIS HAT?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I always forget that MSNBC is right-wing
WAIT A MINUTE I PLAYED THAT GAME, ARE YOU THAT FAGGOT WHO MADE THE FEM-ASH PIC TOO?
>getting triggered immediately and proving his point
wew lad
it's not, to some men, because some men have woman-like feelings.
Right-wing is a relative thing. America in general is conservative. I'm generally assuming that conservative = right-wing, socialism = left-wing, and liberalism straddles the left and centre.
Steroids.
No straight male wants to be a girly fag boy and you're a fool if you think they do.
>all these butthurt virgins in this thread
It's actually simple, Women don't find Buff Mcstrongarms sexy just because he's Buff Mcstrongarms. They are more detail and relationship oriented than guys who are more visual. This doesn't mean they don't like sexy fit men, just that those men need to come with personality and more to really get that clam a' soaking.
So when a character like Gilgamesh is made "physically attractive", lots of woman prefer otter mode than bulk but that's beside the point, it's not for women because the game doesn't really tell you about him.
Gilgamesh looks the way he does so men or women can self insert as a super strong ancient conqueror. Not to get women moist(although some will be, I mean just look at him). It's all about the intent of the character creator.
There are actually very deep reasons for why men tend to be less outwardly threatened by what they perceive as slutty women. In the natural world when a woman is pregnant, she is basically dependent on a man for survival. If you have women making themselves more available sexually, it lowers the inherent value of a mate, and therefore jeopardizes the investment that a man has in caring for a woman pregnant with his child. What's more, since men tended to act as group hunters, being around strong burly men— while seen as possibly being sexual competition— meant a greater likelihood of success during a hunt. No such corollary exists for women. Women don't benefit from their kin being attractive.
Real men don't play weebshit retard
>No respectable woman wants to be some slutty stripper and you're a misogynist if you think they do
tumblr equivalent confirmed. stay triggered, sweetie.
They’re not, tho. The ideal for most men is to have a handsome face and be fit, not a bodybuilder built like a tank.
And yet, whenever we see men actually being sexually objectified, everybody protests "But that isn't what women really are attracted to!" and they go back to big musclebound shirtless guys as the only acceptable 'objectification' standard that men get to be subjected to.
>Gilgamesh looks the way he does so men or women can self insert as a super strong ancient conqueror
Nah dude, he's the way he is because it suits his character.
I can accept everything but the bellybuttons
why
Except it's kind of self evident that women do want to look hot. Even diehard feminists like Anita have a ridiculous time consuming beauty routines. Men don't have time consuming beauty routines. They don't want to look like pretty boys, they want to look like men. This is why you see shit like men bemoaning their inability to grow a beard. They don't celebrate having baby smooth skin.
You just proved his point soundly. You're intimidated and offended by "girly fag boys" and don't want to play them in the same way women are intimidated by "slutty tramps" and don't want to play them. In reality if male characters were sexualized the way female characters are sexualized, almost EVERY character would be a twinkish ottermode guy with a pretty face and nice hair, because that's what people who like guys are attracted to. You only try to insult them and make fun of them and people who play them because they're closer to the male ideal than you'll ever be, and that makes you insecure. That's exactly what modern feminists and SJWs do. You're literally no different, and it's weird that you can't see it.
>those nine-packs
Men who are attractive do have beauty routines. You don't, because you're a slob who tries to get everyone else to lower themselves to your super low standard. You're no different from women who refuse to shave their legs or wear makeup. Neckbeards and legbeards come from the same place of insecurity and not wanting to try for fear of failing, and both are equally bad.
What is going on with their erect bellybuttons? I thought I had seen everything haha.
>You're intimidated and offended by "girly fag boys" and don't want to play them
I'm not intimidate or offended and would play them. I'm just insulted that you think I wish I looked like a faggy Asian pop star. I assure you I don't and neither do the vast majority of western men because we weren't born with the shit tier Asian genes and aren't trying to make the best of a bad situation.
Completely agree, there are multiple reasons to make a character look the way they do, I was just looking at it through one lens.
look up female Halloween costumes. Are they forced to wear those?
e v e r y t h i n g
>I'm not intimidated
>proceeds to rant how he is soooo much better than those faggy fags that sleep with tons of woman because they're what woman actually want to fuck
Sure chad.
Not that user btw.
dude he pegged you perfectly, you really are just a male SJW. the mental gymnastics you're pulling are something else. it's the same shit ugly women from tumblr to do convince themselves they don't want to be attractive, either.