When did you wake up to the realization that 8GB RAM is not enough anymore?

When did you wake up to the realization that 8GB RAM is not enough anymore?

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Like a week ago. I only went up to 16GB though, I'll just get two more of the same if I really need to expand.

how much better will my performance be if i go up to 16 gb? been debating it for a while now

like in 2014...
try to keep up gramps

>not having 2GB per thread

If youre a power user, you should see some speed up, though why you're not at least on 16 would be a bigger question.

It never really hurts to max out your ram anyway. There's no real downside to it. 8GB can still hold its weight, but you start hitting bottlenecks in how much you can do.

With the price of ram these days 8gb is fucking plenty

Not much. You'd be better suited getting an SSD.

Either all of you are baiting, running multiple games at once with a stream in the background (in which case, why?), or don't actually know how ram works.

What could you possibly be doing that you max out 8gb?

2012

8gb is enough for anything I can imagine wanting to play except for escape from tarkov apparently

How many of you have actually pulled up a resource monitor on a second monitor while gaming? Games barely ever use 4gb let along fucking 16.

What kind of bottlenecks would I run into that I would need to upgrade ram? What does that look like? Because my computer is slow sometimes, when a lot is open, but I can't tell if that's the cpu, ram, or hard drive.

>What could you possibly be doing that you max out 8gb?
running windows uses about 4
to be fair it's pretty good at memory management now

>have about 10 chrome tabs open
>at least 1 is on youtube
>have discord running
there goes another 2

Try like 2.5gb

already have one sir

back in 2011

yeah, because it uses as much as it needs for smooth performance and loads as much of it in because the windows philosophy is unused ram is wasted ram, that doesn't mean that you suddenly need more than 8gb. Yeah, I constantly run into 4-5gb on windows 10, but it never goes past that threshhold because it's not actually constantly used, it's more like cache.

>This many GPUs

Is that even necessary?

for 7 monitors yes

that's what I said dummy

When I realized I wanted to run windows 7 in a VM instead of using windows 10.
Why did ram have to become so expensive?

I got 2 8GB sticks for cheap, didn't even know how much I needed.

Upgraded from 8GB to 16GB back in like 2013, got 32GB now.

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Shit I'm regularly maxing 16 and thinking about 32, who the hell still uses 8 and pretends it's enough?

Yesterday when BoTW started eating up over 90% of my ram in CEMU.

Will you get 64gb next since you are so retardly conditioned to upgrade something you'll never actually need

for what purpose? are you running multiple VM's or something? I don't actually believe you. List the things you run on a daily basis, and a max

people who only play games

Editing 4K video in premiere uses a lot of RAM, the performance is noticeably better with 32GB rather than 16GB

I mean if that's what you're doing then it makes sense but this is Sup Forums and games really don't use much ram

>having lots of tabs open because research purposes
>running multiple games at the same time because autism
>having 4 MMO clients open at the same time
>having autistic minecraft modpack with 200+ mods that takes 5+ minutes to load, so I just leave it open
>sometimes render vidoes which eats shitloads of RAM

You really only need more that 8 if you are trying to do 4K basically right? I'm fine with 1080.

I don't know man, 8 seems like plenty for shitposting and watching anime.

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64 bit applications will use as much memory as they can/need in order to quickly load assets. A lot of modern games load more assets into memory at once, at higher detail levels than before. A lot of games can get by on 8gb still, but even something like Path of Exile, which is a few years old but released their 64bit client relatively recently, will consume 6-7 gb over the course of a few hours, since it won't start purging assets from memory until there's LITERALLY no memory left to use.

I just close my browser if its impacting my games
The tabs all come back when I re-open it anyway

>10 chrome tabs
1 alone takes up like 2 fucking gigs
it's a goddamn resource hog

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for what purpose?

Resolution has basically nothing do with do system RAM usage unless you're using an iGPU because the iGPU is using the system RAM as VRAM. 8GB is enough if you want to run JUST the game and nothing else, and don't mind a little longer loading times. Try to run modern games and have a web browser or some other shit open in the background and you're going to wreck your performance because you're going to go over your RAM amount.

>playing path of exile
>chrome with 10 tabs open including a bunch of youtube videos
>discord and spotify open
>using 5665mb of RAM

Wow better order 10 more sticks of price gouged ram ASAP

If you have 8, your OS will use up to a certain point.

If you have 16, your OS will use more to make your experience more streamlined and efficient.

When I went from 8 to 16 I went from about 5-6GB of usage to about 10-11 doing the very same.

>he doesn't know that vram is offloaded to ram once the gpu runs out
>telling cheapo gamers to buy only 8gb of ram with their garbage 3-4gb gpu
>cheapo gamers start complaining that their toaster isn't performing like you said it would

Where did you get your specs turned into a sticker?

nice toaster gramps try to upgrade this year maybe

this is about 15

Not him, but also, if you're making mods for games, and modeling, texturing, and animating, all at the same time (which isn't the best idea, but I find it makes for better workflow) then you're going to hit and exceed 8GB, easily.

And the worst part is, when you start working, you only have a vague idea of how much memory you're going to use. You want more than you'll ever need, just in case, really.

install gentoo

I don't think RAM is your problem

I did

>select background color
>delete
>do some editing to text for border
>add layer to image

When I couldn't finish loading shaders to run BotW on CEMU.

>upgrade != downgrade

I didn't yet desu. AAA games are so shit that I don't even bother anymore.

i want an ssd version of RAM

>ryzen isn't a upgrade from 6 year old xeons

Except for the fact that ryzen is utter fucking shit and a scam?

If you can already play most modern games at Medium settings 45 FPS or higher in either category, then the tier list for shit you should upgrade are as follows.

HardDrive to SSD (Unless you already use one) > Graphics Card upgrade > Ram upgrade to 12 or above, or two 8s that communicate > Processor upgrade

>tfw it's almost 2018 and still have 4 GB RAM
I wanna cry

16GB was considered standard until ram prices tripled in late 2016.

What causes microstutters in games? How do I troubleshoot this?

Also programs taking forever to open/sluggish when left in background for long time and re-opened.

just download more ram

You can try that new M.2 NVME stuff. 1TB of stupidly fast storage. Speeds start at 3-4 times faster than current SSDs on SATA and increase from there depending on how much you want to spend.

>upgrade ram to 32gb
>upgrade processor required to upgrade mobo and ram
>32gb ram now its obsolete and unsable
>thanks annon

favorite game? goty? (because I thought this year was exceptional at there being too many good games to play and not enough time)

>dude ryscam lmao
are you just trolling now

Ram is the same shit as SSD

Sounds like memory death. Get a Solid State Drive for Windows and whatever games you install, while keeping your regular harddrive for bitch files.
I'm just stating my computer upgrading experience. I've been spoiled by SSD load times and I'm literally never going back to harddrive gaming.

>NAND memory is the same as FLASH

>mfw programs took a while to open
>use readyboost with a 16gb stick
>suddenly faster

What is this black magic I thought it was just a meme

16gb was 60$, now its 200$

Im waiting for the day that RAM prices arent massive fuckoff levels again

I only ran into a RAM issue once and I had 40+ tabs of Chrome open with more than one game running.

Not him, but why the fuck should I buy AMD rubbish when Intel offers a much better product?

hey you discovered swap memory

>16gb was 60$, now its 200$
wait what, what the fuck are you talking about?

It could be a few things. Usually when it happens to me its a memory leak or a problem with vsync not working properly. It could also be caused by a bad hard drive. Maybe try defragmenting or put the game on another drive.

A few months ago. Got a new 1080 and still kept CTD when playing RB6 on ultra. Thought it was my HDD because it kept hitting 100%, but decided to try going from 8GB to 16GB and it magically fixed the problem. Must have been the page file bullshit in Win7/8.

because it's cheaper?

>Play W3
>Fps started to drop
>Reinstall driver, still same
>Check chrome
>3gb with 4 tabs opened
But again, i left it open all days

Been using 32gb since DDR3 came out.

Currently using 32gb(8x4) DDR 2400. Anything less than 16gb and you're in poorfag territory.

>16gb was 60$, now its 200$
But thats wrong you fucking retard.

>get a 2tb disk drive
>get a 128gb ssd
uses the ssd as a cache to the 2tb drive
enjoy using a technology that its 10yo

32gb should be the peak of gaming performance unless we're talking seamless open world the size of the actual world

DDR4*

>DDR4 2400
>you're in poorfag territory
>not owning 64gb DDR4 3200
bnabhawbwahawbhwabawhbawhabw this poorfag

Why I started using 128GB RAM. My computer is so fast it does what I want right before I click.

I only have 32gb. To be fair I play on my vr sometimes.

I wonder if anyone has tried running a setup with really low ram but with a bunch of virtual memory (pagefile) on an m2 drive. It would probably run like shit but could be interesting. I feel like we could see a merging of memory and storage if storage gets fast enough.

>What causes microstutters in games?
It could be many things, it could be you're using more RAM than your system has, and the system has to use your hard drive as a cache (known as a page file) which you absolutely do not want because your hard drive, or even an SSD is 1000 times slower than RAM, or it could be because you're hitting the limits of your CPU.
>Also programs taking forever to open/sluggish when left in background for long time and re-opened.
Yep you are going over your RAM amount for sure, you don't have enough RAM for all the shit you're running so what's not immediately in use is being taken off RAM and put into the page pile, and it takes the computer awhile to take stuff that's currently on RAM, move it to the page file, and retrieve the data for the program you've had left in the background and put that into RAM.

When I repurposed a server with 128GB of RAM as a gaming rig. RAM doesn't exist to me anymore, it just works.

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I think my workplace is ordering a kit for our new PowerEdge.
64GB is no longer enough

About 4 years ago when I bought 32GB of DDR4 when it released.

>built system when haswell-e first released
>i7-5820k
>asus Rampage V Extreme
>32GB of Crucial 2133

Seriously, This platform was the last good thing Intel did before they started throttling their process to not kill AMD.

It would be shitty, NVME SSDs are fast but their latency is retarded high compared to RAM. NVME SSDs have a latency of around 3 milliseconds, RAM has a latency of around 80 nanoseconds. The CPU is going to sit around waiting for storage all day.

having 4gb of ram since 2010, I can't believe it's been 8 year now
My lovely rig still can handle most new AAA games

Maybe on CEMU? It was stuttering a lot but it could be because of my shit CPU. I don't really care anyways since I own a Wii U. Other than that I've never had any problems with 8GB.

No it can't, you deluded poorfag.

>I don't know man, 8 seems like plenty for shitposting and watching anime.
erm...8 is more than what's needed for that. 2-4gb is perfect.

8gb is perfectly fine for non photoshopers.

You guys should really get Aida64 and set up the OSD on a second monitor if you want to see exactly what your pc is doing. It's helped me troubleshoot a ton when it feels like something isn't working right. Uses like 6mb of ram and barely any cpu cycles too.

>AAA games
What did he ACTUALLY mean by this.

>4gb of ram
How do you even browse the web?

You need 16GB if you want a no-compromise solution which will never get RAM limited in any gaming situation, but with the current absolutely ridiculous memory prices I can’t really blame people who decide to hold on to their 8GB memory setup for a while longer. However, it’s certainly something that deserves to get upgraded once the prices become more sensible.

Forgot the pic of my OSD setup