Sure, I don't see why not. I feel if it happens in movies I can happen in games, thing is...

Sure, I don't see why not. I feel if it happens in movies I can happen in games, thing is, if the people making the games a bunch of pussies or not.

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No, Michael Ironside quit and Ubisoft can't make games that aren't either 5v5 esports or 'open-world climb towers and collect map vomit' games.

Well, it's not like Conviction was a particularly great game.

Games have the most annoying "journalists", I can see dozens of articles about game exploiting violence against women or some shit

>that slap back
w e w

Do people still remember proto-Conviction with hobo sam? This could be the "grass being greener on the other side" type of thing but i think the game would've been a heck of a lot better than the Conviction that we got.

youtube.com/watch?v=GzVySazMVeY

Looks like Assassin's Creed.

People like the option to sneak past undetected in SC games, all I see is Sam engaging enemies.

Forgot how hot Sam was in this game

Yeah it was going for social stealth as opposed to light & shadow stealth, probably because Sam became a fugitive after Double Agent.

When info came out about proto-Conviction i was really worried after seeing sam punching cops and blowing up stands. Spent a lot of time trolling the ubisoft forum for info and discussion.

Thinking back, the direction the game was going for was at least original and the tone would've stuck closer to the previous SC titles.

At that point they were trying to show off the game with all the action and running. I assume that the completed game would've allowed you to navigate through areas undetected if you were methodical. Of course this is just speculation.

Sam is daddy as fuck in every game.

Some gameplay footage of the 2007 Conviction.
youtube.com/watch?v=sxjr_9mPlVE

>Sam, bend me over the table and fuck me, this has to look real.

Not as a Splinter Cell game no. I enjoyed it as a dumb action game.

youtube.com/watch?v=Vx323NROp7Y
Posting this smooth ass run because it deserves more views. As far as i know this is the only video of someone ghosting through the police station level in SC1 without disturbing the enemy AI in any way.

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>No, Michael Ironside quit
*was fired in service of their failed soft reboot

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Nope, he quit himself, he was tired of doing the games. He didn’t even want to do Conviction, but changed mind because the story focused on Sam reuniting with his daughter.

No, he didn't quit. They never asked him to do Blacklist because he's an old man and they wanted the voice actor to do the motion capture and he never cared because he hasn't really cared about the franchise from day one.

Why did you stole my thread faggot?

I heard this early prototype turned into Watch Dogs.

>tfw no r34 or a lewd fanfic of this

having this scene leak and then having it removed on final release would have caused controversy in 2018 because it would be sexist to remove this just because a women was hit. It doesn't make fun of the fact and would only hold back womens rights.

2bh nobody would care today

Apparently there was an interview where he said that he didn’t like how the latest games focused too much on soulless brutality.

>hovered over to see the thread
What are you even saying? Conviction IS nu-ubisoft. Literally the herald of many more betrayals to come if you were a fan of stealth games (hitman absolution, thi4f).

I can't find it. I can find that some guy edited Michael Ironside interview footage and then used that to infer that's why he left Splinter Cell.

>They've gone to motion capture, and this spring I will be 65 years old. I don't think anyone wants to pay money seeing a 65 year old Sam Fisher bounce around on set, killing and stumbling while he kills people. I wish them all the luck.

That's what he said in his AMA. And he didn't actually leave the project. He was credited as an acting coach to the guy who played Sam, he just didn't play Sam himself.

>that haircut
WAKE ME UP

>Nope, he quit himself
Nope.

youtube.com/watch?v=-hEaDQ-dMtI

There's the director of the game explaining that they ditched Ironside because they wanted to do performance capture. I'm glad it was a flop.

god that was hot

Even if it flopped, it was still one of the best SC games and miles ahead of Conviction.

And? If the devs and pubs ignore them then what will happen? Nothing? If devs and pubs never started giving in to the demands of people who don't buy their shit then we wouldn't be where we are now with these dumbass blogger faggots yelling about everything they don't like.

Oh boy here comes the blacklist defense squad. As a note it's not hard to make a stealth game that's miles ahead of conviction.

(You)

>inb4 some fag posts a gif from the E3 showcase of a mission that wasn’t even in the game, crying about the lack of stealth
>inb4 someone throws a tantrum about a 2 minute long FPS section

Ironside said halfway through Conviction development that he didn't like the direction Ubisoft was taking Sam and only agreed to return because he allowed him to play a broken man. Then they scrapped that and started over but he was already under contract so he had to voice him. That's why he didn't return for Blacklist. He didn't want to play another gung-ho action character. He only liked Sam because he was this tortured and abused government killer that had to return for "just one more job" so when they made Sam more and more into a super-spy super assassin he had it and quit.

Except he didn't and the game director confirms that he wasn't even considered for Blacklist here: Nice headcanon though.

He said that on tape, dipshit. Recorded at a con. It's on youtube.

>not posting the alternate version
youtube.com/watch?v=Nma0GR3zZQU

Literally no one gives a fuck about journalists aside from guys like you who just want to get mad about something or the small group of people in their terrible circlejerk. Gaming websites are completely obsolete for information these days and the people who run those sites are aware of this which is why they get those nutjobs to write for them in the first place because otherwise they're never going to get any clicks. Youtube, twitch, and twitter have made it so easy for publishers to give information out to the masses they don't even need to let Kotaku or IGN do a preview piece and discussion boards give you a much wider range of opinions than some reviewer who only played half the game before shitting one out.

Not OP but I posted this exact thread like a week ago and now it keeps popping up left and right. Not that I'm complaining, I love me some Conviction discussions.

It had a 10x better story-line than any other game in the series

Don't give this guy any (you)s please.

To be fair Splinter Cell never really had any story until Conviction.
It was just missions within loosely connected James Bond esque plot.
Then Conviction came out around the time when games were starting to become more cinematic and followed that trend.

What's wrong with the story? Like this guy said the games hardly even had a story before Conviction

You just know she fantasized about this later.

That makes it sound like the train station sequence in Bourne Ultimatum. Which I might have actually been interested in. Closest thing to that in the final version of Conviction was getting rid of those tails in that amusement park.

>no raep option

Why

>An old white guy beating the shit out of the black Vice President

Would this scene be possible in current year?

he hits her because she needs him to to help her maintain her cover, what's the big deal?

I'm not gonna say that the early SCs had a good story or anything, they were cookie cutter murrica saves the world Tom Clancy plots but they had a somewhat grounded and realistic tone.

Conviction had a hollywood action movie plot and tone. It was such a serious departure it was practically betrayal.
>Sam's daughter coming back from the dead and being important to the plot
>Fourth Echelon being an army
>Grimm, the techie data analyst turns into a gun toting action lady
Like seriously what the fuck?

My bad, he wasn't the Vice President. Just some black guy.

The VP did get knee-capped by Sam though

GO TELL THAT LONG TONGUE LIAR

Sure but in the current year Grim would be the protagonist and the player character would be the one getting beaten not the one doing the beating.

If Conviction was a licensed Jason Bourne game and not a Splinter Cell game it would be held as one of the best licensed video games ever made.

>9:01

What's the best SC game I can get on PC?
I want to play some pure stealth games, no quicktime execution bullshit.

Deciding between giving the Thief games another run or playing an SC title.

Moreso than Bourne Conspiracy? Actually, probably since I must be the only one who still remembers that game.

Chaos Theory

Conviction might have been shit, but that mission where you just fuck Third Echelon to hell and back was awesome.

Is there anyone who can stop Sam Fisher's rampage?

Jo

its amazing how the winds shift
nowadays devs get shat on for a 1/4 of that

It was Third Echelon, not Fourth. Fourth Echelon is from the shit-fest that is Blacklist. And they weren't an army, you only actually fought them at a few points in the game like in their HQ and the White-House. Some of them were even agents that Sam trained according to Vic Coste.

And for your other points, what is wrong with Sarah being brought back? It made for a good reason to bring Sam back with a vengeance. At least it's not like Blacklist where he is a 60 year old man playing secret agent just for 'muh nation'.

And as for Grimm, it's called character development. Same as why Sam is now a pissed off old man instead of a wise-cracking agent from the old games.

I can see why you wouldn't like the gameplay but the story was fine.

I’d let Sam choke me out desu.

No they don't.

>And as for Grimm, it's called character development.
Character development requires gradual development not just a sudden change in character.

There was multiple years in between the games, and I don't think she was even in Double Agent. She's not gonna be the exact same especially after losing Lambert and all contact with Sam. At least they handled her better than they did in Blacklist

this is where I provide dozens if not hundreds of examples which make my statement factual and then you dismiss them "no but these don't count"
go bother someone else mate

No it isn't. This is when you get down on your knees and bark like a dog cause you're nothing but my lil bitch.

t. soyboy

I'm gonna pound you right in your soipussi if you keep acting up.

>talking shit about Blacklist Grim

t. numale

>At least it's not like Blacklist where he is a 60 year old man playing secret agent just for 'muh nation'.
Actually he's motivated by having his best friend put into a coma due to a Blacklist attack.

The only one here with their mouth gaped open ready for a cock is you I'm just the conductor on this fagtrain with a special delivery.

Fuck that Splinter Cell scene. What about this one?

youtube.com/watch?v=ISQg6yzWJ2s

He's had enough, lay off him man.

I'll lay off his tight ass once he can throw me off.

Sam seems to be in his thirties in BL though.

Sorry 3rd Echelon not 4th, and they practically were an army because there were so many. The purpose of 3rd Echelon was to send agents to uncover intel that would not be obtainable through usual SIGINT methods. They were not supposed to be very large in number or these badass panther stealth assassins.

Sarah isn't important because she isn't! Also daughters don't just come back to life, that only happens in shitty spy thrillers!

Man i don't need to explain Grimm she's literally a different character. All i'm saying is that the story and tone are so different to the previous SC games that conviction might as well be a new game unrelated to the SC series.

>tfw they bothered animating sam's hands for every single object you could pick up and it all went to waste

She was pretty good in that game. Useful but not a stronk womyn Mary Sue, is ride or die for Sam but calls him out on being a shithead, etc. Also has the best side missions.

>techie data analyst turns into a gun toting action lady
Grim signed up for alpha protocol.

Obsidian needs to make a spiritual successor to this already that game had so much damn potential to be one of the best games ever made but got totally squandered after being shoved out the door early.

>And as for Grimm, it's called character development.
That's bullshit. You can't pluck an intel annalist from a deskjob and drop her right in the middle of field operations. Sam had already over 15 years of experience as an SOF operator before being recruited into 3rd Echelon.

That sounds so much like a Rainbow Six: Siege character bio.

>Grim slapping the shit out of Fisher
I need this.

I hear you man.
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Grim was never a Fisher tier field agent. She worked undercover in Conviction and maybe had to handle a gun once or twice. In BL she’s also armed but never has to use it.

Not enough Mary Sue.

How has no-one brought up these 2 yet? Conviction had one of the greatest co-op campaigns of all time

>that ending

it really caught me and my buddy who I played through it with off guard. I wish games did neat things like that more often.

yes

The only thing i cared about in conviction was the co-op. Too bad that Archer and Kestrel die at the end. Fuck this game.

I think it's a little different for games than movies or TV shows, considering you're the one controlling the character and choosing their actions

Kestrel actually lives, play the blacklist co op.

Nani the fuck.

Jack Thompson pls go

The ending of co-op made me hate Kobin even more than the main story, and then they had the audacity to bring him back as a good guy in Blacklist

I didn’t know 50 shades was this dark.