New Iconoclasts interview

youtube.com/watch?v=87CtkRDD_hI

>muh story muh narrative
can he actually write? owlboy tried the same thing and it had a pretty shit story

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Noitu Love 2 had an ok simple vidya story, nothing special. Pretty much everything else in that game was better than its story.

I can't remember a thing about Noitu Love 2's story other than that I was confused.

All it needs is good gameplay and soundtrack

who gives a shit about story in a 2d platformer

What is this and why should I care?

the obvious answer is "nobody, because no one has made a good story in one yet"

google.com

I used to be friends with guy and he was really abrasive and autistic

cave story is a pretty good story, but some parts can get annoying with cutescenes/dialogue. i hope there isnt too much in this game

I skimmed through the interview, guy seems pretty unlikable, but I loved Noitu Love: Devolution, so I'll play Iconoclasts for sure.

Just like kubrick

That's true but Iconoclasts seems to be a lot more bloated. Cave Story meanwhile has a simple plot. Cave Story also has godlike pacing which has a lot to do with why the story fits so well

>literally less than 3 more weeks left
God damn, I've been waiting for this for 5 years and it's FINALLY coming out.

Konjak's previous games all had whatever stories. They were there. Overcomplicated themes without the pacing to pull them off with stilted dialogue that isn't interested or funny.

But if he can stick to more environmental storytelling this time round, it'll be fine.

If he's a cunt, he's a cunt that's a dab hand at mechanics and animation.

ON RELEASE, WE WILL _______ IT!

Game looks cool.

have precisely one thread which 404's at 130 posts about

>i want to change peoples mind with my game
>think where politics might end up if you don't act sooner rather than later.

God fucking damn it konjak you Swedish cuck. if you've cucked up this game I've been looking forward to...

I thought you would at least recognize that narrative in videogames if for telling a story that captivates the viewer and makes them want to keep playing nothing more.

I swear to god if there's any of that swedish advocacy for muslim parasites in a game called the Iconoclasts that would be incredibly ironic and above all disappointing.

do you think it's a coincidence that the white characters have black faces?

At least in Iconoclast you can skip the cutscenes

well he made robin look a lot better towards the end.

Yeah, she and her brother look fine.

the eye patch guy is her brother? he's got the coolest design after Robin imo

>This tumblr mouth and nose design.
I know nothing about this game but I already have an bad feeling over it.

Yep, that's right.

I found some more

not seeing any negroid lips or flat noses, just white people

Konjack came before all this sjw shit. I don't necessarily care for the art, but he's always been the go-to tutorial site for new pixel artists

I'll help you out, m8.

>implying people can't be converted

That's not how Tublr noses are, are you genuinely retarded?
Or you are one of those weebs that think noses are just a dot in the center of the face?

You talking shit about my boi otus fucking faggot

All I see are dick-sucking-lips

That's the problem.
Realistic nose and mouth on anime face.
falls a quite on uncanny valley.

It's not that they're 'realistic', they're negroid features, flat nose / big lips on a white character

Those features are still realistic.

not so realistic as they look bad, artistically it's fine

>not even the titular Owlboy
:^)
I like that he's a legit mute and incredibly bullied, though.
Too bad "The supposed actual villain was actually doing THE RIGHT FUCKING THING" got used and then cliffhangered the ending. Solus had two choices: Ask for the artifacts and get shut the fuck down/have no way of getting them ever, or get the pirates to attack for them while feigning defection, all so he can cast the Anti-Hex himself and save everyone from FLOATING INTO SPACE AND DYING
Then Otus and Co. try to stop him and LITERALLY end up nearly killing -everyone- when Mr. BIG MEAN MOTHERFUCKING MACHINE shows up after they've slapped Solus' shit.

Iconoclasts, a game 10 years in the making by a guy who has made some cool stuff.
You can find, I think, all his shit here.
konjak.org/

That's not realistic at all.

I actually forgot how long I've been waiting, but thankfully there's a niche flash game site that archives a bunch of news posts about shit that covers when I saw it.
>I've been waiting for almost 7
I honestly thought it was less than that.

It's more realistic than anime nose and mouth.

>face autists

He's right

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get taste
not that the portraits matter since they don't even show up in dialogue

They're both autistic in their own special ways.

Sure "he" is, Icycalm, sure "he" is.

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REEEEE MY NAME IS KIERKEGAARD YOU FAGOT

For once since he put up that paywall that idiot is actually right about something. Well he's right in his judgement of faces at least, all of that shit about art being about getting something you can't easily get from reality is pretty suspect.

He's not worthy of his name

I'm still mad about how fucking awful Owlboy's story was and how much content the lazy fucking devs cut out.
The whole plot would have revolved itself if Otus had just never left his fucking house.

>Sandberg

Face on left = focus SOLELY on the eyes/lips, taking overall focus away from the entirety of the character.

Face on right = balanced, therefore more appealing.

>berg

Nigger, you what? Even balance is inherently uncomfortable and unnatural in design. Any good design will attract your eyes to the most important parts, which for that character is clearly the face. The only reason to have a completely "balanced" design is to create an unnatural, unnerving looking character, like a robot.
This shit is design 101 you retard.

>Joakim

He's a character, that Icycalm.

The contrast of the white of the sclera and the dark brown of the iris pulls enough attention from the lips.

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If this is the case, why can I see that there is a full character on the right, and just a static mouth with some eyes attached on the left?

"good design" can still be shit if overemphasized like the character on the left.

It's like those Japanese characters that are designed with tons of belts and unnecessary straps as part of their costume. Oh sure, visually it's interesting and unique, but to lots of people, it's ugly/bad design. That is the exact same vibe I get here.

>spends almost a decade working on the sprite art and gorgeous backdrops
>gets called lazy for not having some epic storyline (the kind of thing you usually need a room full of writers to come up with)

fuck you dude

Weebs are subhumans, you can't really have a discussion about art style with them.

>spends 9 years fucking around
>cuts out entire areas with important plot points and backstory that still have unique art assets in the game's files
>goes on the owlboy discord and brags about how he cut all these areas with fully finished backgrounds that likely took days to make
>goes on discord and brags about how they have an owlboy "bible" document with explanations for all the plotholes and unexplaned shit they didn't bother finishing and putting ingame
Fuck you, they deserve every bit of flak they get. The gameplay was boring, the plot was dissapointing.

I know i'm 2 hrs late for this but
>just like kubrick
You just fucking compared a professional filmmaker to a pretentious 21 century hipster?
And during this 2 hrs NOBODY pointed that out?
The absolute state of this board holy shit delete this website already hiro.

holy fucking shit gamergators are retarded. gtfo

I see potential for good ass blowjob rule 34 so I like it

Calm your tits, Sup Forums. Your standards don't carry over to other boards after the whole cunnyposting and baneposting extravaganzas.

it's a joke, you mongrel

>removing everything but the eye is "balanced"
Unless you mean to imply that since the right image is zoomed out you have some titties to gawk over, I don't see where you're coming from.

>electric finn
>no benis
YOU HAD ONE JOB BEN

>404:tits not found

Also, see the post here >Any good design will attract your eyes to the most important parts, which for that character is clearly the face
>which is clearly the face

For a 2D action game, I would figure that making the overall character visually striking/pleasing would be the goal, not just artwork that doesn't match what the character looks like in-game.

It's like the character that is drawn is simply in costume as the character in-game, without actually being the in-game character in question.

Make sense?

>nu Sup Forums not knowing about iconoclasts, one of the most discussed "vaporware" games on the board, that is actually finally fuckin coming out

lordy lordy

LIPS MADE FOR LITERALLY ABSORBING CUM OUTTA YA DICK

What are you faggay?

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>Those cocksucking lips

lol Sup Forums pls stay

Oh shit I forgot about this game. I remember playing it when someone leaked an early build on Sup Forums a few years ago and it was pretty cool.

When's it coming out?

ew

it's not about aiming for realism, but having a idealistic way on looking at and capturing it's own style and charm c'mon dude

>DSL is now tumblr
you gay?

That's true, though he did help prevent a whole bunch of casualties during the pirate raid. They did that right, at least.
Too bad Solus did absolutely nothing wrong, because neither of the elder owls(are they the only two left?) would listen to his shit, Fib and Nacci are assholes, and Otus was even meeker and more abused than him.
Not that I condone it even slightly, but Golden Sun did the "villain was actually doing the right thing!" schtick better

>Make sense?
no

If I'm reading you right, you're asserting that because the face isn't important during gameplay it shouldn't be featured in the promo art either? That's stupid.

For one thing, nearly all art depicting people requires that the face be attractive to the eyes (in both the literal and rhetorical senses) because that's how humans are coded to look at real people. The art shouldn't suffer or sacrifice this purpose just because it happens to be related to other art with a different purpose (in this case, the game itself).

Secondly, character design != drawing style. Tons of people routinely draw popular characters in different art styles, but they're still instantly recognizable because their designs are that good. Saying a piece of promo art doesn't match the design because it exaggerates different features is flat wrong, not least of all because the art likely came first. If you were right, then nearly every low-res sprite game would have this problem, because (again) in-game and extraneous art have different fundamental purposes which any artist would understand immediately.

Lastly, even if the left image didn't match the in-game look, I fail to see how the right does any better.

>I would figure that making the overall character visually striking/pleasing
From what I remember playing of the game a while ago, the characters WERE visually striking/pleasing.

Not to mention the cast was only trying to figure out what the fuck Solus was doing for most of the final level, only for them to pull a "OH FUCK OWL SUPREMACY" excuse literally out of their asses so you can fight him.

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What else do you expect from retarded newfags besides complete larping?

>I fail to see how the right does any better.

It looks more like the character it portrays, as far as I can tell.

>Secondly, character design != drawing style. Tons of people routinely draw popular characters in different art styles, but they're still instantly recognizable because their designs are that good. Saying a piece of promo art doesn't match the design because it exaggerates different features is flat wrong, not least of all because the art likely came first.

Alright then, let me ask you this: if fanart of this character gets drawn down the road, are the eyes/lips so vital to her design that, if redrawn by another artist, she would be completely unrecognizable? Or is her overall design more important to show "this is the character from game X"?

Simply pointing out that "her face looks fucking weird, it would look better if the lips/eyes weren't so PRONOUNCED", is absolutely not the same as suggesting "her entire design looks like garbage".

Focusing energy on design that shouldn't be the focal point seems like a very, very strange design choice to me, but if that is how the designer wants her to look, then okay. But when lots of people come back with "she looks funny".....well, that's criticism that could have been avoided with a redesign, or fans of this design should should be in enough control of their emotions not to fire back with things similar to "you just have no taste" when it's constantly pointed out.

Just saying.

Robin looks gross

She's cute.

THOSE
DICK
SUCKIN
LIIIIIPS

Finally, a non-faggot.

damn she got them dsls

>s-stop liking what I don't like!

This will eventually reach skub/shadman tiers of divisiveness. Mark my words.

>When's it coming out?

Then why not post the CatDog rat?

Because it ain't Shadman.

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His name is Winslow.