What did/do you think about MGS4?

What did/do you think about MGS4?

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Making sunnyside eggs is not hard, you stupid bitch.

I've been cooking eggs the way Naomi teaches Sunny ever since I played MGS4 and it really is the perfect way to do it. For that, MGS4 will always hold a special place in my heart.

A fucking mess. Kojima literally making shit up like Big Boss' support team in MGS3 somehow turning into a group of incredibly evil people that basically started everything bad in MGS.

She's an autistic 6/7 year old girl user

>somehow turning into a group of incredibly evil people

Fucking brainlets

You can google that shit.

Playing through it right now, it's actually really good. It doesn't deserve all the hate it gets, it's just brainlets that can't appreciate the change in tone and pace.

It is when you have cerebral palsy, or whatever the fuck was wrong with her.

Aside from Paramedic, none of them became evil.

Wait till you get to chapter 3
Most likely caused by Snake shooting a pregnant woman with tranqs

wanna try out the MGO but when do people play it? weekends? the octocamo and other shit should have been used again in MGSV as an easter egg after you complete all the missions instead of that gay raiden shit where you cant even use the sword.
MGS4 substance when?
MGSV subsistence when?

It's trash. Legitimately the worst game in the series.

its called downs syndrome

I'm still fucking pissed they never made a MGS4 subsomething version

It's terrible.

How far are you?

She's just autistic. You're thinking of that pancake video

She'd look real fucking ugly if she had downs syndrome you downie.

>MGS4 gameplay with a shit tonne of VR missions, extra missions and game content
>snake fatigues and sneaking suit from MGS2 added
shit would be GOD TIER

um, slightly related topical question.
what the fuck do the numbers sunny hums mean? I still don't know.

Digits of pi. It was mentioned in the game I think.

The Fibonacci sequence

The number of times Otacon beat her for fucking up his eggs.

it was a fun stupid ride

"In the Middle East she sang digits from Pi, and in South America she sang the numbers of the Fibonacci Sequence. In Eastern Europe she sang elements from the periodic table (mispronouncing the element "Erbium" as "Ebrium"), and at Shadow Moses she sang the names of stations along the Nose Japanese private railway."

Koji sure loves that railway, I heard all about it watching stephs (quiet) playthrough of 5, she knows the train voice actor lady.

>stephs (quiet)

THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT

Better than "The Joost"

not going to say Joost because she points out in ep1 its "Yos ten" not "juice ten"

youtube.com/watch?v=H2tSs0Y4F2s

how do you know Joost is pronounced like Juiced and not Yos-t?

>she points out in ep1 its "Yos ten" not "juice ten"
Who the fuck calls her juice ten?

the joost is for bully and being called the juiced

>xborts still pushing the "MGS4 is bad" lie

because "the joost is loose" and how rhyming works.
welcome to Sup Forums
pls no bully

I'm not xbot but you have to admit there's a lot of flaws in the game, like all of chapter 3

Xbox did have a shitton of games that required multiple discs. I remember Lost Odyssey had 4 and so did FFXIII.

>muh chapter 3
you mean the chapter that has the shitty bike chase just like MGS3? yep pretty shit

Where in my post did I say that it was good when 3 did it you fucking brainlet

>hurr durr it sucks
>but it was okay when another game that i am a fanboy of did it
stop being so defensive nerd

Not him but he said exactly the oposite
Lrn2read you fuckwit

The only good thing about it is the meta-commentary in the final boss fight.
Where phases are meant to represent different MGS games but MGS4 phase is just the shittiest ever "press button to watch cutscene".
I guess Kojimbo was honest about the quality of his work at the very least.

>reddit speak
>hurr durr he didnt mean that but the opposite hurr durr
fuck off retard

Whatever george said.

Ok I'll write it in retard for you:
"I never said that it was good in 3 either"
Is that good enough for you, literal brainlet?

It's garbage.

>faggot lashes out because he is a gay nigga
fuck off xbox fanboy

Good gameplay, but only somewhat used in chapter 1-2 and there just isn't enough gameplay.
Characters are all fucking retarded, plot is stupid and also retarded, best series-finale boss ever
Cutscenes being counted for play/missiontime is stupid.
tl;dr
Solid game

I just 100% cleared MGSV and goddam, imagine what that game could've been if kojima just had a few more shekels to finish everything, especially the third act.

I'm not lying I'm just stunning with my love glue gunnin'

Best Metal Gear game was Ac!d 2

People keep saying the gameplay is good. I don't think you've played it for that long if you think that.

It's gotten Old.

Best Metal Gear game is Ghost Babel
Best Metal Gear Solid game is 1

Wait until you have to watch THE MOVIE

compare mgs3 to 4, not compare 4 to modern games. you can do so much shit in 4 I doubt people know everything. (example crawling on your back so you can still aim, very useful in chapter 5)

story-wise it's star wars prequel-tier

Kojima over did it with the retcons this time around. And this is a series already known for having a ton of retcons with each installment.

>MGS1. In the Codec call with Naomi it's revealed Solid Snake is the son of Big Boss.
That's cool.

>MGS2. There's a shadowy organization responsible for some spooky shit that's been going on for a while.
Man, I have goosebumps.

>MGS3. You play as Big Boss and find out he wasn't as evil as everyone would have you believe. He was just a man betrayed by his country, forced to end the life of his mentor.
That adds a whole new twist to the story. It felt good.

>MGS4. HERP DE DERP NANOMACHINES OLD SNAKE JOHNNY SHIT PANTS GETS MERYL OCELOT JUST PRETENDING TO BE LIQUID LOL FOOLED YOU

I mean, I like the gameplay in MGS4, and of course the story has always been rather silly, but with MGS4... it just took a fucking nose dive. And Peace Walker or MGSV didn't do anything to fix it.

I've 100%'d every major installment of this series, so this is coming from a fan. To those of you who defend the story of MGS4 and up... Why? Just why? It's so bad. The voice acting is great. The characters are great. The story is not.

Of course we all have our own opinions.

It was a really shit movie and an even worse "game"

i can break off a statue penis tho
lmao

MGS3 babbies are the worst.

its shit

>That tummy

best gameplay of the series
worst story of the series

>best gameplay

sorry mgs5 has that the but mgs5's story/level design was a dumpster fire

It wasn't Peace Walker's job to fix it. Peace Walker's story was the best of the series. Everything about Peace Walker was GOAT except the gameplay

>Peace Walker's story was the best of the series. Everything about Peace Walker was GOAT
Peace Walker is fucking trash, from the shit boss fights, shit music, shit story, shit characters and character assassination of BB and The Boss, grinding chapters to be allowed to play the final mission, fuck Peace Walker is terrible yet people continue to like eating shit

PW was fucking g*d tier and is far better than the phaggot pain

They're both fucking trash fires of a game. Peace Walker is even worse because it's gimped by being originally for handhelds

she did

>handheld PSP game has better gameplay and level design than a PS3/xbox game

Man, the gameplay was much better than the retarded story. The game plays like a dumbed-down version of 3/4 which I found to be quite fun. The whole thing with the Boss' AI and all the high tech shit was terrible though. As a silly spinoff it was fine, but when it got solidified through V it became unacceptable. A shame, really.

the coops look pretty good, the gameplay was fun but the highest tier bosses took WAY too long to fight. shame it had loads of weapons but almost none of them are in V, would have been cool to have stealth mats, buddy boxes, the MG3, railgun and other cool shit in V

I mean V did give us Battle Gear but went "LOL YOU CAN'T USE THIS"

battlegears aren't pachinko machines m8. explain to the board who a battle gear ingame would've made more money for konami.

>As a silly spinoff it was fine, but when it got solidified through V it became unacceptable. A shame, really.
What are you talking about? The whole storyline from 3, PW and 5 is the best thing this franchise ever had. The stories and characters are way more interesting than Solid's story. I agree that the AI pod thing was retarded, though, but MGS games ALWAYS have retarded things, and this was far from the worst.

>v gave us cool shit that only appeared in cutscenes
DID YOU RIKE IT??

Had the fun shit been brought over as non-canon silly extra stuff, I would've liked it. But having Rail-guns in the 70's really grinds my gears.

V really should've made sure that none of the retarded shit in PW is canon. Instead, the technology creep just increased and the boss really did exist as a fucking AI in the 60's

I disagree wholeheartedly. 3 was a perfect self-contained story and everything that came after only worked to lessen its story. I think the characters were about as good as the ones in Solid's line (except for V since it only had Kaz), but the retarded shit they did from PW+V felt inconsistent with the tone the 1, 2, 3 and even 4 had set. And, most importantly, V was a disaster story-wise. V is to BB's story what 4 is to Solid's, but at least 4 was sorta fun and had things happening. V felt empty, drab and didn't really have any fun characters.

My first MGS game. Probably played it around like 10-15 times every summer vacation back when I was still in grade school.

Liked it when it came out. Still like it now.
Best boss fights in the series.

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it could be out in as some hidden unlockable or some shit

>Best boss fights in the series.

Really? I thought Rage Raven was really bad and the rest ranged from pretty good to alright (with the exception of everything with Liquid which was great) Maybe it was because I played no-kills.

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>Best boss fights in the series.
fights were alright, the characters and the desing of the bosses were complete trash though

Did not enjoy Act 3

Follow someone for half an hour and then an on-rails motorbike chase? No thanks.

>3 was a perfect self-contained story
It was great, but it was far from perfect and it wasn't self-contained. It left so many answers about Big Boss' life unanswered and was just begging to be expanded on. It NEEDED sequels.

>I think the characters were about as good as the ones in Solid's line (except for V since it only had Kaz)
But even the characters that appear in both lines are better in Big Boss' line. For example, younger Ocelot. And no team has as much chemistry and charisma as the BB/Kaz/Ocelot trio. Solid/Otacon is nice and funny, but not nearly as cool. Also there's Paz and Chico and their story.

>but the retarded shit they did from PW+V felt inconsistent with the tone the 1, 2, 3 and even 4 had set.
How?

>And, most importantly, V was a disaster story-wise. V is to BB's story what 4 is to Solid's, but at least 4 was sorta fun and had things happening. V felt empty, drab and didn't really have any fun characters.
It was a huge waste of potential, but it was still great and better than most entries in the series.

The sniping one in the snowfield was pretty fun. And REX vs RAY because it brought out the kid in me. The rest were shite

the best parts of 4 were the ones that played like any mission from 5

It was the first MGS game I ever played. A lot of the fan service was lost on me.

>It NEEDED sequels
Once again, I disagree! What (important) answers did it leave? We got to know that Big Boss was a pretty cool guy who got fucked by Big Gov, which explains why he would try to create a haven for mercenaries or whatever. I really don't think that the details needed to be explored, unless I'm forgetting something.

>Younger Ocelot
Was fantastic in 3, really fun rival to BB. In V though? He didn't do anything, really. And that's the case with BB/Kaz/Ocelot team, they never do anything. Maybe it's because the story is so diffuse because of the mission structure (although I think PW handled it pretty well), but it just feels like both Kaz and Ocelot basically did nothing. The only thing I can remember Ocelot doing in V is btfo Liquid that one time.

>How?
The jump in technology from 3 to PW is massive, and in the context of the other games it's totally crazy. And The Boss becoming an AI almost felt insulting. Overall though, PW felt too silly and V felt too drab and serious. I can sort of forgive PW, but V being so boring compared to the others was really sad.

>It was still great
How dare you enjoy something I enjoyed less than you.
The story was a boring trainwreck with uninteresting characters and the gameplay was pretty fun but the open world and mission system fucked it. They managed to make BB, my favorite character, boring. It still hurts a bit.

>Paz
Why exactly did we have to feel bad for her?

What are you talking about?

cuz she kawaii gurl who dindu nuthin

>It NEEDED sequels.

Why? Because not everything is explained?
The game was about how Big Boss got his legendary title/status. That's it.

Because she did nothing wrong. She didn't backstab MSF, because she was never truly on their side in the first place. She was a secret agent, like a ton of other characters in the franchise. Despite not doing anything wrong by the standards of the series, she still got fucked over unusually badly, with imprisonment, torture, rape, surgery with anesthesia, and of course death. She also felt really guilty over what she was being forced to do. You can argue that she wasn't a good person(I disagree), but it's pretty objectively right to say that, by the standards of the series, she didn't deserve to suffer so much.

He actually created them in MGS3 with that in mind.

Really? When did he say that?

you know olga, and by extension her kid, are the best girls of the series, even better than The Joy