Is this accurate?

Is this accurate?

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Sonic characters outside the main three are below trash tier

>gameplay
>sonic above crash
>characters
>sonic not last
>puts sonic in first or second for every category
>overall: last

No

Overall quality of porn
>Crash
>Mario
>Kirby
>Sonic

Sonic has had more bad games than good fren

That is stupid.
Those series include 3D and 2D games, plus several spin offs, which differ a lot from eachother.
How can you categorize the gameplay of the whole Sonic series (Sonic CD is very different from 3&K, which are both different from Adventure, which is also very different from Generations) and compare it to, say, Mario which has the same kind of differences between each single game?
It's incredibly dumb. A dumb generalization.

nuh-uh your dumb

>Characters
>Kirby

Spheres with faces on them. The characters should be:

>Super Mario > Crash Bandicoot > Sonic > Kirby

Totally not biased at all but
>Kirby that behind on gameplay when Crash and SONIC are above it
>Kirby changes up the series every other game with spinoffs
>Sonic even competing with constant "hold up simulators"

That's not even to mention that Kirby has constant creativity with the gameplay formula and also has those little puzzles spread through levels to get the "generic game collectable" to progress. I'd enjoy another copy and paste Kirby game than a copy and paste Sonic one.

theres literally nothing wrong with sonic characters

Sonic, crash and Kirby were never good, in anything ever.

theres literally not a single one that is good

MARIO SONIC CRASH KIRBY
CRASH MARIO KIRBY SONIC
MARIO CRASH KIRBY SONIC
MARIO KIRBY CRASH SONIC

>Kirby
>just Mario but for even younger, more retarded kids

The only thing wrong is that crash characters are more memorable, and this is coming from a sonic fan.

I can understand why Mario, Crash and Sonic are in the list, but why Kirby? You should've added Rayman or any other character.

>crash characters are memorable
Crash... N guy... that's about it.
>x is better, and this is coming from a y fan!
Kill yourself.

Mario should unironically be 1st in all of the categories

Agree on Sonic and Crash

>Kirby worst gameplay but best overall quality
That's paradoxical. If the gameplay is shit, then it's a shit series. Luckily, Kirby's gameplay isn't bad. A little easy, but still pretty fun/unique.

Yes.

>Music

Kirby, Sonic, Mario, Crash

>Gameplay

Mario, Kirby Crash, Sonic

>Characters

Kirby, Mario, Crash, Sonic

> Overall quallity of games

Kirby, Mario Crash, Sonic

>gameplay
>kirby above crash
no

Because it has been the most consistent plataformer of them all.

Crash doesnt have the variety of gameplay that Kirby has.

Sonic

i guess, but crash is weird when it's influential titles were on a console the other three have never touched, and the other three have been around longer.

Sonic has the best characters.

Agree on the final result, but Kirby having the worst gameplay, not only is wrong, but it really makes stupid the fact that he won.

NOW ADD SPYRO TO THE LIST

>Sonic being above anything else in any category besides music

irredeemable shit taste confirmed.

>crash in last place for music
Are you retarded?

Sure

Kirby gameplay is very easy, thats why i put it in last. But that doesn't make it last though.

Somebody clearly only played the first game for a grand total of 20 minutes.

>tfw you first hear the music to the first three Sonic games

*that doesn't make it bad

not last fuck

>sonic music
>1st
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>>gameplay
>>sonic above crash
Yeah, Crash gameplay is really shitty. It's weightless and directionless. Sonic's gameplay atleast wanted to do something - make the player build up momentum and try to keep it as much as possible.

I dislike Sonic, but I respect it much more than whatever Crash is.

Why there are so many Kirby fags on Sup Forums, like any time that we have best game, best franchise or most powerfull character thread, the thing ends up filled by Kirby post, I don't even dislike Kirby, but if you ask this in any other place people mentioning Kirby would be the minority not the majority

>Crash on top
Why

You can respect it all you want, but Crash's platforming is much better than Sonic's, in addition to being influential to other semi-3D platformers like the PacMan World games.

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Kirby is unironically a great series of platformers. Honestly I vastly prefer it to Mario games.

>Kirby
>just Mario
But that's wrong.

That was an isolated incident. Sonic has good music. Music in sonic games is Sega's number one priority.

I don't care what other think, I just like Kirby over Mario. If you prefer Mario then there's nothing wrong with it, but don't get upset that others prefer Kirby.

rey accrae

nah kirby games are only good 60% of the time

No, Crash platforming is really boring. Having no momentum robs it of every sense of weight. Playing Crash makes you wonder if the devs really thought about what they wanted Crash to be as a game. Simply having obstacles to jump over does not make for good gameplay, there has to be decision making involved, which is why most platforming characters have weight to make you commit to your jumps.
Crash has no weight, so he basically just plays like Megaman without projectiles.

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>plays like megaman
>implying that's a bad thing

I'd like to know why some people like Kirby over Mario. I agree that Kirby has much more charme, but Mario has better level design.

>tfw Open Your Heart starts playing
I've never skipped the opening to be honest.

Agree on kirby

>so he basically just plays like Megaman without projectiles.

Is that a bad thing? that makes it a challenge run or youre playing as Zero.

Kirby's level design is so bad for a platformer, I find it suprising people even consider the Kirby series platformers and not babby's first action sidescroller like Castlevania and Ninja Gaiden.

>Kirby on top for characters and quality
>Sonic not dead last for gameplay

>worst gameplay
>best overall
Kirby is shit, just accept it

Because since there is a low amount of it in general the good outweighs the bad more than any other scale.

Kirby porn? OwO what's that?

I honestly haven't enjoyed a Mario game since the SNES era. It's just a matter of preferences.

Even boost Sonic games are more open than Crash games.
Crash literally had 3 good games, and one of them isn't Crash 1.

>kirby higher quality than mario
>sonic not dead last for gameplay
>sonic not dead last for characters

>Two spinoff that weren't even made by SEGA themselves
Makes me think.

Please keep reading til the end. Megaman is great. Megaman without projectiles (and I don't just mean without Megaman's pea shooter, but also without enemy projectiles) would be pretty boring, since the focus of Megaman is combat while platforming. This wouldn't work the way it does if Megaman had weight like Mario, so he can switch directions quickly and in mid-air to be able to dodge and shoot better. If a platformer had that gameplay, but no actual combat while platforming, it would miss the point entirely.

>music
>Kirby second
>Crash last
lol

>sonic not dead last for characters

Eggman > The entire Mario Cast

except all the OCs drop it

I guess

>Sonic not dead last for characters and at least third for gameplay.
Come on, that shit should be obvious.

mario > kirby overall
sorry OP

And than Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles bring it back up.

crash is too Sup Forums for these plebs

Sonic Kirby Crash Mario
Crash Mario Sonic Kirby
Sonic Crash Mario Kirby
Crash Mario Sonic Kirby

>crash overall that high
N-sane trilogy was the only good game since twinsanity

>If a platformer had that gameplay, but no actual combat while platforming, it would miss the point entirely.
There are plenty great 2D platformers with such gameplay like the 2D Rayman games. Also, there are plenty action platformers like Megaman with momentum/no midair change of direction like Castlevania and the Ghouls and Ghosts games. To say one is inherently worse than the other is nonsense. Crash with momentum just wouldn't work since Crash is dependent on its very precise controls since the margin of error is incredibly small, which is usually not the case in momentum based platformers like Mario.

>it's a "Kirbyfags think their toddler games are good" episode

Well, crash is just not for you my man. I happen to like that Crash focuses mostly on platforming and nothing else.

no, crash should come first for character, he has way more of a personality than mario and hes a silent character

Kirby's hardly a platformer these days. It's more of a brawler with the way the series is going.

This, Mario RPG characters don't count because this is obviously a platformer comparison

Kirby is the MLP of video games. Even kids above the age of 5 think its gay as fuck.

i'd say its pretty accurate yeah

Sonic literally has one of best casts in vidya.
Name a franchise with better characters, it sure as fuck aint any of the ones in OPs list.

You know what, I agree with you.
Crash's ensemble all have neat and varied personalities compared to mario's ensemble. I dont know about first though. Crash would have trouble comparing to Sonic's ensemble.

>crash should come first for character, he has way more of a personality than mario and hes a silent character

All the crash characters look like they come from a rejected 90's kid cartoon. Mario has more charm in his design and mannerism alone than the entire Crash Cast put together.

What are you 12 years old?

>good: sonic, knuckles, tails, eggman
>irredeemable shit: everyone else

>Name a franchise with better characters
Gex

What is good about them? Honest question.

Put Sonic before Mario

The 2D Sonic games are objectively better designed games than 2D Mario

>Tails and Knuckles
>Good
Its Sonic and Robotnik, everyone else has no reason to exist

In what way?

Sonic had better Art Direction and Music than Mario. Gameplay-wise, it wasn't even close.

>Doesn't answer the question

Mario certainly has the better level design, but Kirby has more focus combat. The enemies and bosses are also more unique as well, with memorbale music and end levels.

>Music
>Sonic

Have I got a game for you buddy

>Crash gameplay is really shitty. It's weightless and directionless
this is the most abstract game criticism I've ever heard