Secret of Mana 2018

What are your thoughts on the SoM remake? I'm hype as shit to play this game again but the artstyle is disappointing

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Have you heard the voice acting?

No but now I am worried

It looks a thousand times better than the other mobile remakes they've done, though that's not saying much

Though honestly I never thought SoM looked very good. Nothing compared to SD3, Terranigma, and Chrono Trigger anyway

HOLY SHIT WHAT

my thoughts exactly

looks like diarrhea

Coming out in mid February dude, get hype

If the price point was lower I'd accept it.

Maybe I'd pay $40 for a similar remake of Chrono Trigger. MAYBE.

I would be inclined to agree with that picture had it not been for how amazing the FF3 remake with the similar artstyle change turned out

>the shitty mobile remake
>soul

That's the same style remake as the FF4 one right?

>Buying video games
There's your problem

Meant for

I have a job. Is there a problem?

Yeah, that's the one, the DS remakes were all pretty good

Square is just so shit. They have this huge back catalog of classic games that they could spend proper time remaking for the current generation. Instead they just shit out these awful mobile games that you can tell they did as fast as possible to make a quick buck. I dont know if this is mobile in addition to PC/console, but it really doesn't look any better than their shitty final fantasy mobile releases.

>Complains about video game prices
>I'M PROUD THAT I CAN PAY FOR VIDEO GAMES
Capitalism really fucked you up didn't it

>No switch version
Its garbage

Sure, we all hate mobile games as a concept but the FF mobile versions aren't actually that bad, at least the one's I've played

they'd have to tune it perfectly
the flow & feel of the original was kind of special
maybe they could speed up some things like menu animations
but 40bucks man
to play the same-ish game again. i dunno

Companies and consoles are not your friends, stop being so loyal to something that will never do the same for you

Yes they are

It's not a remake, it's a remaster, the game plays literally the same as the original in pretty much everything but having some QoL features like the minimap and alternate costumes for the characters.
It was the same for Adventures of Mana, it's a literal 1:1 copy of the original GB SD.

Didnt they already do a remake for Mobile?

And what the fuck are these NDS graphics? It's 2018 already come the fuck on.

>Sure, we all hate mobile games as a concept but the FF mobile versions aren't actually that bad

???

When you attack an enemy is there a two second delay? Also can you stack spells infinitely?

>3D
As long i can turn the voiceacting or change it for jap i will try it.
Otherwise fuck it.

You know what is worse?
Inn and shopkeeper's don't dance anymore.

They made a compilation of the first three games for the Switch, but it's Japan-only.

Those have been already patched.

>Seiken Densetsu 3 will never get a remake

I just want Angela shaking her ass in HD.

The mobile game market and it's utilization does real damage to the video game industry, same as fucking pachinko machines and shit
Doesn't mean some of them can't be fun
You know you're allowed to have complex opinions about something, you don't just have to have a binary LIKE/HATE switch

It seems to have gotten no hype other than that trailer.
The original game was already meh as far as stories to, and when I found out that it got butchered to hell during localization, I dropped my playthrough.

If the script is more detailed, the voices are ok, and the music and gameplay improved, them I'll buy it.

Fucking oath man

They spend absolutely no time on them at all and it shows. It's not being mobile that is the problem. It's that they shit them out as fast as possible for a quick cash infusion.

Agreed
I'm not arguing with you that the mobile gaming industry isn't a fucking shit show
I just appreciate that when I'm on the train I can pull out my phone and play something better than bejewelled or it's many clones
Have you played any of the FF mobile games? They're quite serviceable, FF3 and 4 are pretty much just the DS remakes, which were really good

I think most people wearing rose-tinted glasses for SNES games and JRPGs in particular forget that 99% of the gameplay involves unceremoniously mashing the A button repeatedly

I think the only problem with the mobile ports is the sprites are bad

With everything being censored these days I don't think you will ever see her ass in HD
Sorry, bud

so you know literally nothing yet you're hyped.... great

After seeing in-game footage (around the mushroom cave) and playing Adventures, I'd say don't even hope for anything good.
They aren't fixing shit. Only thing that's worth a damn is the added story scenes, because pretty much all plot gets dropped during the shitty Sage Joch segment which goes on way too fucking long.

I'm still amazed they gave her a thong leotard.
Like they didn't even try to give her a full-back, not even in any prototypes/betas as far as I know.

I've always wondered why some people preferred SoM1 over SD3. Better gameplay, Better characters, probably the prettiest game on the SNES, 6/3 different storylines/final bosses. It's as close to a perfect JRPG as has probably ever been made.

I'm both glad and sad that we'll probably never get a SD3 remake. Glad because the game would look so much worse in 3d.

>6/3 different storylines/final bosses
This reads like the next Kingdom Hearts subtitle.

The problem is defending something that actually is shit, not that you have to automatically despise everything mobile.

I'll play it just because I have nothing better to do.

buy flowers for a girl that you like instead user, it'll be worth so much more.

>yet another fucking remake
PLAY THE GODDAMN ORIGINAL, KIDS. FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

Remakes are always fucking stupid and never recapture exactly what made the original good.

I don't even know a girl anymore

...

what about for your mom then

>remake
It belongs in the trash

>but the artstyle is disappointing
The artstyle isn't disappointing.

It makes this version absolutely unplayable.
And if you're "hyped as shit to play it", then you're pure and utter cancer.

I will consider it. It's not like I was going to pay for the Mana remake. I was just going to play it for free.

Is there online co-op? If your all stuck to the same screen then I am not going to bother with it. SoM always felt like a clusterfuck playing with friends

Who's your favourite Mana boss?

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The original is shit anyway. The art style is fine compared to the original.

>Game gets a remake
>But it will still no add all the removed and missing content
Why.

Because Chrono Trigger.
They're still adding a few extra story scenes. I'm going to watch those on youtube at least, because I hope best boy Dyluck gets extra scenes.

A remake and a port which is worse.
I hate how you can tell at what point they started removing content because how rushed is everything in the end.

They knew what they were doing with Angela and her many class designs.

fair enough

Im sure they will censor the fact she sleeps nude too.

The original is better.

Goddam, i fucking love the 90's fantasy anime aesthetic. Slayers, Lodoss War, Rayearth, all top comfy.

The only Seiken Densetsu I like

Only non-english fags have trouble with this puzzle. I figured this shit out when I was 5.

I'm starting to see why nobody likes you

Lousy nostalgia cashgrab aside they should have remade the third instead.

This one

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10 years old me found it incredibly creepy and eerie how the heads would just stay there not reacting at your attacks and then making a single gesture to call a spell every now and then.

probably disapointing. there's not the same zeitgeist of that era. secret of mana was a less fun game than goof troop, but it had the same spirit. that spirit is lost. neighbors now play games on steam without local multiplay.

What are some of Squares good mobile ports ?

why the heck would you play any kind of deep gameplay game on your phone? seriously? the only mobile game appropriate for your phone is jewels remastered III

Square had every best anime style.
>Chrono Trigger/Dragon Quest
>Dragonball
>Seiken Densetsu
>Sailor Moon / Magic Knight Rayearth

It was so good back then.

None. Use emulators. 100% guaranteed to get a better experience.

What this user said >Install emulator from store
>Download rom from internet
>????
>PROFIT!

guy has no social life. when he gets out of his mom's basement he needs his cellphone to not get caught making eye contact. that's why so many soymills love games on their phones.

>I've always wondered why some people preferred SoM1 over SD3
Those people probably played Secret of Mana on their SNES with a friend way before they played the translated romhack on an emulator. I was kinda like at first since I played SD3 single player after having cooped SoM. But I eventually did do a playthrough with a bro over the internet on the ZSNES emulator eventually, and had a blast.

Unpopular opinion: Secret of Mana was never a good game

And before anyone says anything: yes, I played co-op as a kid. No, that doesn't somehow excuse the endless flaws the game has.

>why the heck would you play any kind of deep gameplay game on your phone?

t. 15 minute daily commute student

sd3 was never published in america. no one played that game before emulators existed. no one played that game with his kid brother or with a childhood neighbor. Now you understand, soyfull milk retard?

Played well, looked good, has a great sound track. Might not be a great game and might be overrated, but you gotta be some snob to not think it was good. I wish Secret of Mana was mediocre and middle of the road game, because that would mean everyone was making pretty quality products.

know how "it is fun!" is a meme argument you use when you cannot come up with actual reasons why a certain vidya's gameplay is good? Well "muh soul" is the same but with the artstyle aspect

The dungeon before him is pure hell for all the wrong reasons.

>Played well
i loved secret of mana, but no it didn't... fight the demon wall again and tell me that it played well lol.

It was the best coop game ever made, dude. People who says otherwise never played it, or worse, played in an emulator alone when they are already an adult. You can only like that game while playing with friends when you're 14 years old. There are some games that capture that happy moment in your life. I'm an oldfag and I find ridiculous that people like kingdom hearts. Compared to the first one at least (the only one I remember) secret of mana is a masterpiece.

what does kingdom hearts have to do with all this?

game made for children that sucks compared to the other (that does not suck).

You're fucking retarded. Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (especially so in the case of the latter) are what Secret of Mana couldn't be in terms of sheer gameplay, despite severely wanting to be. SoM is so drastically slow, menu-bogged, and animation-delayed that it can't fulfill anything that it sets out to, despite what nostalgiafags like you think it pulled off flawlessly.

Nasir was a fucking mistake.

Yeah, but you know these games aren't only on mobile right? They sell them on Steam too, maybe consoles as well although I wouldn't know. They're treated as the official release for current generations. That's what sucks.

I thought the parts without magic were the more fun parts of the game, to be honest. When you fight the wall later, you just spam gem missles and its over with.

Except she doesn't. She's wearing clothes on her sprite just like every other character.

It's probably going to be good unless they changed more than the art style, but it still didn't need to happen. I'd have more preferred the Seiken Densetsu Collection. No, the fact that it's a Switch game has nothing to do with it, so keep your fucking Wojaks to yourselves.

>best
>co op
>game
>ever
>made
You're full of shit. 'It was passable for aRPG back then' is what anyone who actually lived that era would say.
SOM over contra 3, rocky and pocky, sunset riders, final fight, wild guns, smash tv, battletoads, TMNT Turtles in Time, Joe and Mac, Super Bomberman?
Fat fucking chance. Who the fuck actually played SOM co op back in the day? Quit your dumbass larping.

>no one played that game with his kid brother or with a childhood neighbor

Pfftahaha, I ((((literally))))) used to go over my best friend's house for sleepovers when I was 8-9 in 2000ish, and spend the entire night playing SD3, Kirby Superstar and Street Fighter 2 on a SNES emulator with both of us playing it on one keyboard. They were some of my best childhood memories, especially kirby superstar. Of course people were playing it when they were kids, you fucking retard. We didn't even bother with SoM1 because it wasn't nearly as fun.

But yeah, I can understand why people remember SoM1 more fondly because they didn't play SD3 until later. But as somebody who played both at the same age, we had tons more fun with SD3.

Is it me or does it look kind of bland? Like it's going for generic cutesy instead of doing any style.

>Who the fuck actually played SOM co op back in the day?
I did, with a multitap and two friends.

dude, her sleeping sprite is topless in nothing but undies, you can see it under the covers without even extracting the sprite.

Even 12 year old me knew this, I thought everbody did. It was one of my first teenage boners.

Perhaps you need to read a dictionary, since you don't know the definition of naked.

well, you want me to look up hyperbole for you when I'm there there? Are you actually an aspie or something, so that everything has be exactly literal? By "sleeps nude" the guy was very obviously talking about her sleeping topless in just panties, which I'm sure they probably would censor in the today's age of 3d model rips.

jesus.