>releasing raids bit by bit every two weeks instead of just releasing the full thing at once
Why does modern WoW do this? Is it because they know it's so easy that delaying the release is the only way to keep people interested in it for more than a few days?
The latest raid "came out" four weeks ago yet the final quarter of it still isn't here. Shit's frustrating as hell.
Juan Evans
>releasing raids bit by bit every two weeks instead of just releasing the full thing at once
But they do, only LFR retards have to wait; you should have PUGed at least normal weeks ago.
Hunter Green
They really don't. I've been doing each bit as they come out(literally only wiped once) and it doesn't let you go further until that content is unlocked every two weeks.
Aiden Gonzalez
Artificial longevity poweres by nostalgia and sucker money pls enjoy
Aaron Foster
the full raid comes out at the same time and the hardest mode comes out 2 weeks after. Unless your doing LFR and if that's all you do in wow i'm not sure why you play.
Gabriel James
I'm doing whatever the default raid finder difficulty is. There's not even an option to pick the last quarter(it's literally greyed out).
Leo Jenkins
>I'm doing whatever the default raid finder difficulty is. There's not even an option to pick the last quarter(it's literally greyed out).
Yes because you're not doing real raiding. You don't even hit the point where mechanics matter until you do heroic and that is just barely cutting it.
Benjamin Phillips
That's what LFR is retard Find some groups in the group finder and play normal, it's a good deal harder and fully unlocked
Nolan Turner
Normal Raids do come out with every wing at once though.
Henry Perez
Don't call me a retard dude. How the absolute fuck am I supposed to know that RAID FINDER isn't normal raiding and GROUP FINDER is?
It's literally backwards. It should be the other way around if anything.
Eli Foster
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Ethan Richardson
Are you seriously trying to say that a new player should magically know that Raid Finder isn't actual raiding? That's bad design.
Nowhere in the game does it tell you that you should actually be looking for Group Finder instead.
Hudson Flores
LFR isn't real raiding scrub. Normal and up is already released for ABT.
Thomas Lopez
What you actually should be doing is joining a guild and raiding with them but you can also use group finder to find groups that are raiding in normal difficulty or higher
Jonathan Campbell
The fact that LFR gear is worse than any other mode should be a big hint that LFR isn't real raiding bro. Don't mention the fact that mechanics are literally non existant in LFR.
Ryder Robinson
>Don't mention the fact that mechanics are literally non existant in LFR
I thought that was just how modern WoW is. Everyone is always saying how easy it is so I just assumed this was normal.
Also I don't have any gear from the harder difficulties, obviously, so I wasn't aware the LFR gear was worse.
Bentley Thomas
Modern WoW is as easy/hard as you want it to be. You can stay doing braindead LFR modes or actually do mythics if you want something that requires a brain/teamwork.
Lincoln Bailey
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Jeremiah Long
Reminder lazy idiots like OP are the scrubs who actually thought vanilla wow was "hard".
Christopher Richardson
>Why does modern WoW do this?
bitch they did that for Naxx40 and pretty much every raid in TBC after Tier 4
Isaiah Scott
>Are you seriously trying to say that a new player should magically know that Raid Finder isn't actual raiding? That's bad design.
No, what we're saying is you should be talking to players and learning about the community and gameplay systems both from city Trade channel chat and fan-sites. If you're new to a 14 year old game, I'm sorry but there's a little legwork you need to do to get up to speed on what the endgame goals are and how to participate.
What's disgusting is your OP complaints about "releasing raids bit by bit every two weeks" when it's RAID FINDER, every ONE week. "Why does modern WoW do this?" To not overwhelm newbies like you with a dozen fights. If you feel that you aren't a newbie, then you should be padding your resume with silver and gold medals in the class trainer NPC's scenario where you practice tanking, healing, or damaging.
Blizzard does the absolute best job in the industry in trying to attract new players like you, you're lucky you have as many guideposts and UI hints as you do. But for you to be offended at the game you just started playing when you barely understand it is pretty offensive. The endgame is about socializing and teamwork to get exclusive challenges and rewards. Socialize. And don't be fucking butthurt about it.
Oliver Jackson
While OP is clearly dumb, it does beg the question of why they do that. LFR should come out all at once; what's the fucking point of releasing it in 2-week intervals? I want more than 3 chances a week at Taechlach and whatever the fuck Argus' scythe is called.
Thank you user, I needed a good laugh.
Eli Baker
There's an in-game Dungeon Journal button on your UI that lets you look at dungeons and raids, separated by expansion, and see each boss, what it's moves are, what it can drop, and little drop-down menus to filter the gear difference between difficulties. You literally didn't explore the helpful hints Blizzard crams in your face every patch when you log into each individual character. They literally spoonfeed this to you.
Adam Wilson
Argus scythe and trinket doesn't drop in LFR thank god. Git gud and actually do raiding. Normal isn't that hard to pug. Tier gear in LFR should have stayed off too but Blizz listened to the MoP babbies.
Justin Phillips
the color looks like shit so you spot these people anyways. Why do you care if shitty kitties get an extra 20 energy by religiously queuing for 3 months?
Luke Campbell
Thanks for the advice and all but damn, did you really have to be such a dick about it? This elitist attitude towards new players is exactly what puts people off starting WoW.
Joseph Long
Antorus in general isn't too bad, but Argus is a motherfuck to pug, as soon as a retard gets a bomb and doesn't know what to do half the raid and both tanks leave
Cameron Brown
Certified dumb fuck
Carter Moore
They have to make tweaks to the raid so that it's suitable for the retards who run LFR. It's probably easier to release wings piece by piece as opposed to delaying it entirely so that they can make the tweaks.
Jordan Miller
Literally got into a one shot argus group my first week of raiding since late cata.;) Didn't even know the fight and GOT CARRIED LUL.
Asher Ramirez
While I'll butthurt that we're losing vaguly class themed gear since blizz is full of lazy hacks, I've got no problem losing tier set bonuses in BfA. Especially in Legion, too many just pigeonhole you into talents you'd rather not use. Fine with t21 havoc though, memebeam is the most fun spec by far.
Austin Hall
>another new year arrives >it is the advanced date of 2018 >people still insist on playing world of warcraft Inexplicable. You have only yourself to blame for any misery you may incur.
Jace Murphy
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Jackson Jackson
Finding a friendly guild is like one of the first things you should do in an MMO you're just joining, you should be able to pick up on shit from guild chat Then you dump their asses for an actual decent guild because they can't do fucking Eonyr on Heroic just kill the fucking mobs in order goddamn
Christian Martinez
Legion is the best WoW has been in years. ABT is a solid end game raid(if you mention pvp I'm gonna laugh at your face, theres tons of better games to beat niggas up in). Tons of content to do outside of raiding. Tons of lore for the game/class you play.
Asher Reyes
Most of the guilds I see recruiting are roleplaying guilds, and the ones I see for actual content seem to have high standards. Got any suggestions on where I should look?
I'm on the Argent Dawn server EU.
Thomas Thomas
I got lucky and got smoldering heart as my first leggo on my ele. Now to grind t21 and the feet. Wanna roll the dice like gambit. Spamming lava surge as ele as a huge firelord is too fun sometimes.
Joseph Wilson
There aren't really many content guilds on RP servers Hop onto Illidan or Mal'ganis or something, I dunno which EU servers are good Or just become a pug hero and use Group Finder a bunch
Landon Torres
The reason they do it is so that the regular raiding crowd (i.e. the large number of guilds that will be clearing normal and heroic within the first month) don't feel additionally compelled to run LFR in order to fill out tier sets and/or get stupid broken trinkets like CoF during NH, this was especially true for Antorus where the base ilvl for LFR is equal to heroic ToS gear. For these players, by the time the last two LFR wings come out you should have your entire heroic 4pc tier set and have no reason to ever step into LFR.
Basically Blizz wants LFR to be run by the people who it's actually designed for (i.e. those who can't actually raid for one reason or another), this is also why they removed tier sets from LFR during WoD to further remove incentives for normal raiders.
also >scythe of the unmaker >not already having both >not using both at the same time It actually looks pretty dumb
Kayden Clark
>Legion is the best WoW has been in years Demonology and Diablo style legendaries say otherwise. The lore is at least not as stupid as I predicted it to be, the whole Illidan being redeemed as the light child didn't come to fruition thanks fuck. Light corrupt Dreadlord is still stupid.
Nolan Price
It's actually because the content is balanced for the raid group to have farmed the first wing, so it's implemented with a somewhat higher itemlevel in mind than the previous one.
Zachary Thomas
Can those weapons be bonus rolled for? I have all of my BiS gear, but I STILL don't fucking have those transmog weapons. Same with Maiden's Hammer and all the other raid weapon transmogs. I also STILL don't have Tusks of Mannoroth.
Dominic Murphy
I had my doubts but Illidan was pretty great in Legion Watching him bro it up with Velen was fun, I wish he spoke more than two sentences with Malfurion though
Jaxon Gonzalez
holy shit, look at all you wow apologist turbo nerds railing this poor bois ass
Adam Hernandez
I'm guessing you're a Demo Lock who's butthurt about losing their metamorphosis to DH. You really gotta get over that dude, it's been over a year.
Parker Bennett
I started playing a few months ago, got bored to tears, and haven't played since early December Doesn't make OP any less of an oblivious fuck
Sebastian Ross
>Convergence of Fates Why is this god damned trinket still so important for Fury? It's like you're forced to only have one trinket slot due to this shit. It's a good effect, I get it, but come the fuck on. It's two tiers outdated; it should not be relevant past its prime.
Oliver Nguyen
I was confused why Malfurion and Tyrande played such a little part in the actual Legion story, they didn't really react much to the Illidari either. I can't say I'm really surprised, neither Tyrande or Malfurion are good characters. Tyrande is an impulsive stupid bitch and Malfurion is a fucking un-charismatic idiot. WC3 had a lot of bad characters save for a couple like Rexxar. Deep down I'm hoping after this Sylvanas bullshit is done Rexxar steps in as Warchief since it's clear Thrall is never coming back.
Leo Lee
You're smalltime
Isaiah Turner
>Not the legendary from Argus Don't call smalltime when you're using smalltime yourself.
Charles James
I don't care about metomorphosis, my problem is demo is completely unfun to play because there's so much shit to keep track of in order to maintain DPS and the rotation is bland as shit.
Noah Wright
lmao
because literally who gives a fuck about LFR fucking parasites? you gotta slice the cake up for them like you are nursing a down's syndrome child. because they are the types to eat the whole thing, get sick and fat, then complain its the bakery's fault for selling them a whole cake. and now they are starving because there is no cake left.
Xavier Ross
>Not the Argus lego AND a 970 Arcanocrystal It's like you don't even want to do Mythics
Benjamin Smith
>the average nu-wow player
David Roberts
>Both the legendary and the arcanocrystal >~3000+ to each stat, assuming mediocre warforge on crystal Oh fuck user, let's not get too wild here. That shit's just not safe for work.
Jonathan Carter
This is exactly why they made LFR.
Jacob Baker
Tusks as far as I can tell are exceptionally rare, most of the people I know who own it have 300-1900 kills on Garrosh but most of those are bonus roll kills because there is no daily lockout.
As for the legion weapons, I honestly don't know. I have not seen a single bonus rolled Taeshalach/Hammer/Shoulders of the First Satyr so I'm inclined to believe they can't be bonus rolled but don't quote me on that.
Because Blizz loves Fury and refuses to nerf it even though it's legitimately retarded that they're using a 2 tier old trinket AND they nerfed DoS for Arms AND CoF was already garbage for Arms because they intentionally made the proc rate garbage because of how broken it would have been. (super butthurt Arms warrior)
A lot of these outdated trinkets being relevant still is just a consequence of titanforging like Bloodthirsty Instict for MM and Unstable Arcanocrystal for like half the specs in the game. Ironically, that's not actually the case for CoF because the base effect is just so good that the rest of the actual stats don't matter and the chance is the same no matter what ilvl version you have.
Jaxon Taylor
>not Seeping Scourgewing
See me after class
Isaiah Rogers
I've heard that they're attached to personal loot regardless of what loot type you go in with and can't be traded, so if you get lucky and PL goes off for it, you just get it in your bags. I've seen at least one person get both weapons in one run though.
Chase Thompson
This is literally my friends and I since they killed 10 man raiding for the autistic "my x raid size is harder than yours" crowd.
Nathan Murphy
>be a monk >actually have more than 5 rotational abilities, which is a lot in this day and age >never really do much at the absolute highest level of rankings, but have fun playing my fun class with nice armors and not looking like a typical giant-shoulders glowing dragon dildo warcraft muppet >in like 2 version patches out of thousands we have some shine at the top of rankings for once >FUCKING WARLOCKS of all people absolutely frothing at the mouth how badly WW needs nerfing
peace and love and all that, but lol go fuck yourselves.
Thomas Fisher
Legion was an incredible expansion completely butchered by titanforging and RNG legendaries. all natural gear progression got thrown out the window by titanforging and it completely fucked up wows natural flow. and legendaries have been a huge shitshow all expansion and blizzard refuses to do anything about it. basically if you want to gear up in any other expansion you figure out what specific things you need to do to improve your gear and you do it. this is great, this is how it should be. in legion if you want to improve your gear the only thing you do is "play as much as possible" this fucking sucks.
Dylan Perry
I wouldn't say they love fury since their first instinct this hotfix was to nerf the shit out of the spec instead of the trinket, but thankfully they went back on that and just nerfed CoF. It's still their BiS even with the nerfs.
Nicholas Walker
>Make loot randomly get better than they usually are for no reason >Instead of just allowing you to make gear better through professions so they aren't completely fucking worthless outside of alchemy and enchanting Titanforging is the single most retarded thing Blizzard has ever done with this shitshow game
Juan Clark
10 was always better than 25
Thomas Phillips
T. LFR shitter
Sebastian Ortiz
Got any insight on Monk vs Druid? Druid was my first class, but Monk quickly became my favorite before I took a long ass break. I like both thematically and in general. Just playing at a semi-casual level, will play all specs. Plan on doing both, just can't pick which one to do first.
Kayden Wilson
But then you'd be able to work for it, which would reward hard work instead of just getting lucky, and Blizzard can't have that anymore. If the average LFR fuckwit like OP can't get the best gear in the game, it's just not fair as far as Blizzard is concerned.
Christian Ortiz
>Legion was good same retards thought MoP was good
Jaxson Martin
FUCKING n00b
Carson Hernandez
*loses 70% of the playerbase upon release* Battle for Azeroth is WoD 2.0, admit it
Hudson Baker
disregard user and stay in lfr.
Tyler Young
>Guild goes on break until from Dec 20 to Jan 11 >Go from rank 20 region to rank 500+ because we've literally only had 1 night in Mythic 6 weeks after the raid launched
Why the fuck would you go on break for almost a month holy fuck
Liam Young
I agree that titanforging is garbo with the current leggos. Atleast BFA is getting rid of these pieces of shit.
Tyler Long
t. didn't play mop but still complains about it
Aaron Brooks
>guild leader stops logging in because "lmao im playing hearthstone instead" >great guild just flat out dies fucking was sad fampai
Jonathan Jackson
Garrisons are the coolest game design feature for WoW ever on paper but they literally killed the economy and player interaction outside of raiding/high end pvp. If garrisons were just glorified player housing WoD wouldn't be hated as much. The fact that you got profession recipes,mats,gear, etc. killed it. Poor guy who thought it was a good idea to include all the professions and gaining gear through garrisons is probably fired now. World Quests aren't amazing but atleast I get to group up with other niggas sometimes to kill a world boss or some shit. WoD still makes me mad.
Kayden Johnson
>>guild leader stops logging in because "lmao im playing hearthstone instead" Of all the games you could quit WoW for, he picks one of the very few that are actually fucking worse.
Isaiah Miller
>guild was 5/11 on 20th aswell >4 days 4 hours >raid lider is a shit and so is everyone >ragnaros >Check EU guilds >7/11 with 2 days of raiding
Fuck NA guilds, seriously, fuck them in the ass with a cactus, the game is not that hard you obtuse non pattern learning faggots. Now im fucking grinding reputation on EU but my whole raiding is ruined for this expansion.
Brayden Russell
>Rexxar steps in as Warchief ahahaha
Hunter Wilson
what do you mean exactly? as a hybrid playing all 3 roles, or? all i know is monks dont give a single fuck about gear scaling so leveling and casual play is gonna be much comfier than say balance, which needs gear and is still kind of shit even with gear.
bear and resto are probably "better" than BM/mist, bringing more raid utility and stuff, but monks roles are still great for raw numbers.
Juan Evans
There's literally a dedicated button at the bottom that has recommended content and when you go to a raid it says "find a group".
Grayson Peterson
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Landon Peterson
>guild doesn't fall apart during winter break >we've recruited a bunch of people in January whose guilds fell apart during winter break
Alexander Garcia
>Join a pretty new guild when I'm at low level >Like 60 level difference between me and the guild leader, figure they'll start raiding while I'm leveling >Suddenly I'm 110 while he's still level 80 because he wanted to do fucking loremaster on his slut elf rogue >Have to wait like three weeks before even entering ToS because of this fuck >He dies to fucking everything, has shit DPS, always complains about people doing mechanics wrong, does an annoying chuckle after everything he says >Straight up tells everyone what to do incorrectly despite supposedly watching video guides "25 times" >Drags his internet gf shaman into raids who clearly doesn't want to be there, makes her play ele when she's geared for resto because she kinda sucks >Pays people 100k gold so they'll give him their gear rolls, then complains that nobody contributes feasts and shit >Doesn't even have the crucible >Full Tier 21 two weeks into Argus despite saying he's fair with loot >Eventually guild pretty much dissolves
Bentley Cruz
>modern WoW They literally did this in ICC in Wrath, and that was all difficulties not just LFR
Dominic Wood
>Have to
you didn't have to go through any of this, you joined a cesspool guild and stayed there willingly.
Ian Lopez
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Brayden Young
Don't you know user? Warlocks not always being at the top means Blizzard hates them. t. Destruction lock seething as monk heal goes dps for Antorus and gets 4 pieces in our first two clears.
Brandon Edwards
>Citing trinkets that were added in and not the trinket that's been an infestation and presence since World Bosses came up >Not the trinket that was bis for all those classes even when it was still at 860 >Not the trinket that can be gotten from trinket tokens and thus meant you had to grind for it TWO DIFFERENT TIMES to get a higher ilevel version of it fuck you
Aaron Bailey
Legion has been pretty average. MoP is the 2nd best behind BC. MoP had great raids and the best class balance.
Hunter Lewis
>tfw never played wow before and got this game >these "dungeons"
Don't get me wrong I'm having fun but the leveling process is fucked. Rouge is fun though and coming from ff14 this game is much more engaging. Literally teleporting to a mob from the shadows with a backstab is great.
Jason Adams
leveling is being retuned as it's piss easy right now
Anthony Moore
The guild was a pretty fun chatroom and I liked the dudes there, it was easy to find guys for group content And then it died because of how absolutely awful of a raid leader he was, and bitching everywhere about how nobody was coming to raids I just wish I could find a guild I like that lives so I could have cool stories
Joseph Martin
On paper garrisons are retarded because they didn't have the customization initially advertised, killed professions, and had more functionality than any city.
Brayden Bailey
>Desto lock in my guild is 962 >He's still using an 860 Arcano
Daniel Nguyen
It's always astounded me the kind of shit people will willingly sit through in this game in regards to guilds. I used to leave guilds all the time when they tried to pull shit on me, even in Vanilla/BC when server communities still existed and were important. Any kind of guild that does the shit he went through is small time and not worth staying in.
Daniel Collins
yeah, its like a decade of add-ons, and like most MMOs they just add new continents instead of working on the world. except cata which destroyed the world instead of working on it. it makes it so you cant really put any stock into anything until the latest expansion.
ff14 is like pre-wow levels of out outdated tab-target hotkey design, thats what turned me off hugely.
Isaac Martinez
Dungeons were never that complex, but mobs hit harder and lasted longer. It ended up that large pulls were more complicated than any of the bosses. They've gradually improved mechanically, and the ones with story are a lot of fun.
Adrian Long
Levelling is absolute braindead garbage, and dungeons are a fucking joke I really hope the upcoming update will fix it but I'm not holding my breath