PS1 and PS2 dominated their generations in sales, and yet there is still more nostalgia for the N64 and Gamecube. Why?

PS1 and PS2 dominated their generations in sales, and yet there is still more nostalgia for the N64 and Gamecube. Why?

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more nostalgia for Gamecube? wat? That's simply untrue.

Anything can be true as long as the claim can't be backed up statistically I guess

Because Sony has always been propped up by third party titles. They don't have the kind of homogenized branding that Nintendo's always had.

>gamecube
kek nice try. There's more nostalgia because they're harder to emulate well.

isn't more. Just look at how well Crash bandicoot sold.

Because PS1 was generally owned by kids from broken homes like children of divorced parents, while N64 was owned by kids from proper families. No one is nostalgic for a shitty childhood.

N64 maybe. Here in the uk no one had a gamecube. though i always wanted one as a kid for the pokemon games.

Nice try, no one remembers the Gamecube.

look at their all stars roster and you know why. imagine any playstation without 3rd party.

What nostalgia exists for the PS2 other than shitposting about it being “the king” because it sold over 150 million hardware units? Even though 50 million of them came from after when the PS3 was released and the Xbox and GameCube had already been discontinued

Nintendo is babbys first console.

Most PS and PS2 owners had SNES and Sega before them and were teens.

>Sly
>Ratchet
>Jak
>Spike
>Crash
>Spyro
>Patapon
>SOTC Kid
>Nathan
>Alloy
>Kat

Seems fine to me. Nintendo has about the same if you remove the one offs like Captain falcon that nobody cares about anymore.

i thought playstation all stars was actually the cause for "sony has no iconic characters" and not the symptom
during the 7th gen, everyone knew who ratchet and sackboy were

Timesplitters/SSX/GTA/MGS/R&C

Because they were the first to be forgotten

PS2 had more games but Gamecube had better ones. This fact is simply undeniable.

Europe as a whole doesn't, or didn't really care about Nintendo. America sure did.
Now I'm not saying that young people in Europe are so stupid as to rewrite their own nostalgia to include Nintendo because of the internet etc, but I am thinking it loudly.

>Mario
>Zelda
>Star Fox
>Goldeneye
>Pikmin
>Billy Hatcher

vs

>Monster Rancher
>Deception
>Chocobo's Dungeon
>Azure Dreams
>Grandia
>Steambot Chronicles
>Dark Cloud 2
>Sly Cooper

The PS1/PS2 had a lot of decent and memorable titles. Most people who were too young might not remember them, because everybody talks about Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, and Goldeneye. But even getting through all the shovelware, there were still a number of good games available on the Playstation platforms.

Although I will note that the N64 and Gamecube were probably the king of the multiplayer games. It was a lot easier to pick up Gauntlet, Mario Party, Smash, or some other random 4P title on those systems and play them with three friends. By contrast, you needed an expensive adapter to play more that 2P on PS2, assuming the game even had that. So you might be remembering the party games more because hanging out with friends was more fun than the 15th JRPG on your PS1.

>Old PS2 series, which will soon get a CG show, but not a new game, to take care of a shitty cliffhanger
>Popular, but the movie was shit and its identity is the opposite of its original self
>Dead because devs want to make movies
>Probably Sony's most raped ip: god forbid anything has any sort of identity besides maybe a funny animal mascot
>Their "Mario" who became third party
>Same as above
>Handheld game
>SOTC is kind of popular among "Gamers(tm)", but still
>Obviously popular
>Somehow popular, possibly for being a forced meme
>One of Sony's ips, that actually try to be much more, but was doomed since it started in the fucking Vita
Nintendo not only wants actual mascots, but also has passion and effort in Smash, even with some questionable choices, while the closest thing to Sony Smash having fanservice is just knowing some characters existed, then treating them like shit
If both crossovers switched spots, Dante would have had the classic look because Sakurai demanded it, while SuperBot thinks Pacman having the look from that meme show wouldn't be a bad idea

>looking around nintendogaf
>be surprised nintendo is the only one to be praised while sony is wither ignored or shitposted

R&C, yes. Timesplitters? Not really. The rest are all multiplats.

The Armored Core series was better than Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. Fight me.

Timesplitters was a multiplat too, I remember playing it on Gamecube. And people fucking loved Timesplitters.

>Update
Hey man, outside Sly, SOTC, Ratchet and maybe Crash Sony really has nothing worthwhile anymore, And most of those series' are long since dead. Now its all uncharted and horizon which are BORING IPs and open meme garbage. The glory days of Sony are over. Now they're only good as a backup Third party multiplat console.

Sony fans by and large do not post on gaming forums.

Front Mission was better than Armored Core.
The Gundam games at the time were better than Armored Core.
Being a poor man's Mechwarrior isn't worth much.

It actually wasn't. I tried emulating them on PSP last month and it was awful and clunky and slow. Jumped right into Verdict day and actually enjoyed myself.

>Front Mission
>gundam

Yeah nah. Garbage anime games aren't my idea of good. Armored Core was close enough to Mechwarrior because it wasn't about kawaii anime kids every 5 seconds.

That’s because Nintendo didn’t have a real international presence in countries that weren’t the US (and Canada) and Japan. Nintendo was a Japanese company whose American branch was originally run by the nephew of the president to distribute arcade games. They ordered too much radarscope which would have broke the bank so they made Donkey Kong from the same hardware and converted the American machines. They licenses Game & Watch to partners in other countries but the NES launched there late, after Sega already gained a foothold. And they never released nearly as much software due to localization costs.

Because Sony just makes consoles. Nintendo makes games and consoles.

N64 only had like 5 good games for it.
Same for the gamecube, wii, WiiU and now the Switch...
What an interesting pattern...
The fucking 3ds on the other hand, holy shit. Talk about a great library for a handheld. Even without hacking it, there's plenty of shit to play and some decent ports.

PS1 was primarily "The JRPG console" thanks to FF7. If you didnt like RPGs there was hardly anything on them for you that wasn't Crash, spyro MGS or Resident evil.

N64 on the otherhand had a myriad of hard hitters, being Platformers, Collectathons, Rail shooters, FPS, Adventure, Action, Casual puzzle and more.

I'm guessing you've never been to neogaf/resetera?

Because Sony fans are not afraid of change and look to the future. Only Nintenfags dream of the "good old days" when their company was relevant.

>Japanese archetype isn;t about a japanese archetype

Shocker.

There's plenty of nostalgia for the PS2.

PS1 you're right though. Much more nostalgia for the N64

>kawaii anime kids every 5 seconds
have you ever played Front Mission? or at least heard of Gundam?

>The PS1/PS2 had a lot of decent and memorable titles.

I had a modded PSX and PS2 and a crapload more games than on N64 and GameCube. I remember nothing about the PS2 except playing DDR with my girlfriend and later guitar hero’s oh and MGS2 due to he bait and switch with Raider. I remember nothing about the PS1 except jagged pixels and SotN. The Nintendo consoles had more memorable games which objectively aged better. Sony consoles have always basically been garbage dumps for third parties with little quality control

>Seems fine to me
And that is probably why you are ok with how little Spny has influenced the software market

>3DS
>Good

Remove the 3 and I'll agree. 3DS has shitall outside Monster hunter and some awful Pokemon installments

This is extreme cherry picking

Last Front Mission I ever tried was I think 2 on the SNES. Constant angst from the first mission. Oh no, someone died! abloo abloo.

Last gundam game I tried was Zeonic Front. Poorly made semi-strategy game where you could barely even control your mech. couldn't even fly.

Hey You Pikachu > Metal Gear Solid

If Cubic Ninja is so awful then why do I have hundreds of hours logged in it?

The difference between Nintendo and PlayStation is that one wants to focus on existing fans, while the other wants go garner new ones.
Nintendo brings back Metroid to please Metroid fans, while Sony brings back MediEvil as an attempt to introduce the series to new people, while changing its identity.
It's easier to find someone who likes both Super Mario 64 and Odyssey than one who like Uncharted and some obscure PS1 JRPG.
There's a reason why most PS fans on Sup Forums might actually hate Sony and like obscure/older titles more.

>I
Who gives a shit?

Because you used it to hack your 3DS, latebloomer.

>N64 only had like 5 good games for it.
>Same for the gamecube, wii, WiiU and now the Switch
If you had friends there was nothing that could pry you away from the elite tier multiplayer than Nintendo provided

>5

What the fuck kind of games do you play? Why is anybody here on about monster hunter? An objectively garbage franchise that teenage autistic nips play on bullet train rides. MH is a trash franchise if you aren’t a 13-year-old Japanese boy with aspergers.

>comparing the 3ds library to the DS library
That's not even fair.

The DS had a lot of quality shit, the 3ds has decent third party stuff. There's only one SMT game in that image, fuck, not even the pokemon mystery dungeon spinoff games.
I'm a poorfag so being able to play xenoblade chronicles, tales of the abyss, ace combat and the etrian odyssey games on a hacked 3ds is really nice

>Front Mission was better than Armored Core.
>Turn based game VS Action game
>A series that had literally only two good games in seven entries, one of which is, ironically, a poor man's Armored Core and another one a ASV clone
>The Gundam games at the time were better than Armored Core.
No, the only game at the time that could be compared to Armored Core was Votoms: Lightning Slash, which while it was really good action game for its time can't compete with Armored Core on any level outside of having a vastly better control scheme

most of my nostalgia is for old pc games, the gameboy colour and the ps2

>an interactive microphone simulator is better than a cinematic experience

I can't argue against that.

The autism for Melee exceeds any nostalgia for anything on the PS2

It's mostly just the group you know. Mostly the PS1 and 2 have been the nostalgia platforms, GC having only a small amount of nostalgia games, like SMS, Melee or Eternal darkness. There's plenty of good stuff, but people don't seem to be nostalgic about Warioworld for some reason.
Ps1 has a bunch of nostalgia-inducing games though, like Crash games, Spyros, Raymen, Crocs, Ape escape, Klonoa and MGS to name a few. I don't remember much nostalgic games from ps2, maybe Ape escape 2 and 3, Beyond good and evil and Bard's tale. I kinda want to know more of the good games for both PS systems.

>There was nothing that could pry you away from the multiplayer that nintendo provided

Someone didn't play quake 3 or halo 2.
I almost feel bad for you

Oh look its Fromsoft fag.

>Halo 2
>PS2

You can't possibly be this dumb. You just can't.

You are aware Bards tale is a PC game that predates its Ps2 port by like 10 years right?

Who?
AC is pretty much the only thing I like from From outside of the two Shadow Tower games, by the way.

N64 had perhaps ten noteworthy titles, which were most noteworthy because they were the most fun. PS1 had perhaps a dozen or so great titles, but the most noteworthy ones were the ones most heavily advertised and so not worth all that much. Sure, everyone will cite Crash Bandicoot, Final Fantasy 7, Metal Gear Solid, and Symphony of the Night as the top games on PS1, but I wouldn't really name any of those except SotN as the best games on the system.

GameCube vs PS2 had pretty much the same situation. Everybody knows the best GameCube games because it had a rather small library, and the best games are the ones which were the most interesting. For PS2 the best known games had the most advertising, and you had a lot of really good games which were just less well known for the system.

It didn't help that a lot of developers saw the success of one game on PS1/PS2 and then decided to put out a garbage title with the same design. There are just so many poor JRPGs, SRPGs, and 3D platformers attempting to be FF7, FFT, or Crash Bandicoot respectively. I'm honestly not surprised you didn't find much interesting if you were just playing FFX knockoffs on the PS2.

Ps1 was good ps2 was gooder

Shadow hearts is better than any GameCube rpg

Kid from broken home here, we had N64

You have a point. The best games usually had the least marketing. It's why is right on point.

Might wanna try re-reading that post there, champ.

>wahh wahh fanboy!
Just accept that your anime garbage is worse. Go back to your ビンビン ワホ

>gooder
>GOODER

You. Read. Now.

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>better than any GameCube rpg
So just Tales of Symphonia?

Might want to stay on topic "Champ" This thread is comparing PS2 and Gamecube. Unless Halo 2 was on either of the two, it has no place in the thread.

I wanted to say you're full of shit but then thought about it and every kid with a PS1 had divorced parents or just generally shitty home with alcoholic mom and dad etc. when I was kind. What the fuck, this is weird.

The only people with N64s I knew (me, two of my friends and a couple of kids in my class) all had normal happy families.

Less games to choose from means that all N64 and GCN fans played the same games and can share their nostalgia.

Kids who owned the PS1 and PS2 all played different games that suited their individual tastes.

Not really, but I haven't looked into it, juat played it. Thanks for betatesting I guess.

Baten kaitos

>YOU HAVE TO STAY ON TOPIC, THIS IS A SERIOUS DISCUSSION
user, where do you think we are?

all zelda clones/inspired games were better than it:
soul reaver
shadow of the colossus
megaman legends

fight me

i have both a n64 and ps1 and my family is fine
definitely much preferred the n64 tho, I only had like 6 playstation games

Obviously halo 2 isn't on the ps2, nigger.
He was comparing other multiplayer games.
Pull the stick out of your ass, faggot.

Baten Kaitos is extremely overrated imo. I finally played all the way through it and it's one of those games that tries really hard to be a fantasy epic with its visual design and soundtrack but the basic gameplay is just unappealing as fuck and takes even longer than most JRPGs to get through a generic enemy encounter. Writing was average JRPG writing, maybe a notch above the heart of mediocrity.

>its OK to derail threads for no reason
this is why Sup Forums is shit

I disagree on GC. Not saying PS2 was necessarily better, just that i don't see that much love for the GC aside from the mandatory fan-favourites like WW and Sunshine. But in general I'd argue that the 6th gen was really carried by the multiplats as far as popularity goes, so in a way PS2, GC and Xbox are somewhat interchangeable

The N64 on the other hand had the Zeldas and Mario64, those two are GIANTS, even if the thing had literally only those 3 games it'd still be enough. But still, i wouldn't know if it has "more nostalgia", maybe more reverence because some of its games are considered so influential to gaming as a whole. Like, lately my google feed suggested articles saying the N64 apparently was the most sold retro console this year, i think that kinda proves my point, a lot of people recognize it's worthiness but only after learning about it, so to say. I'm a PS1 baby myself, that's my experience with the N64

Anyhow i think we can all agree both gens in question had actual competition, and that all consoles had their share of good offerings but fuck the PS2's hardware, cheapest piece of plastic shit ever, has been giving me nothing but problems for a decade or whatever

It's not a coincidence. Nintendo games are usually cheerful in colour, even the story is dark. That's why children with happy childhood tend to play Nintendo.
And it's why play Nintendo games, to get a break from gloomy "realism"

Problem with the Ps1 nowadays is its hard to find anything worth keeping it for. Everything people loved are on higher consoles now.
>MGS is on PS3/4/PC
>RE got it's RE:make on GC now PS4
>Crash has the N-sane trilogy on PS4
>FF7 is being remade

Outside a few RPGs like Wild arms, whats the point in even owning one anymore?

Yeah the slow combat were a pain in the ass, they were much better in the sequel

>but fuck the PS2's hardware, cheapest piece of plastic shit ever, has been giving me nothing but problems for a decade or whatever
nigga what,i have a fat ps2 and even dropped it from a 1 meter table to the ground facing down some years ago,bitch never went to repairs still working 100% fine,even the joysticks that came with it i still use to play shit on pc

There were more multiplayer/co-operative experiences offered by the N64.

A lot of people, especially normalfags look back on the memories they spend with others.

For example playing Goldeneye with your cousins during thanksgiving.
But most probably won't remember single player experiences.

Also people tend to recognize nintendo as the only video game console that exists due to brand recognition.

There's no point because emulator exist

When I was a kid I was in a boyscout kind of group and one kid told me about the Dreamcast, and I literally thought he made it up until about 2014 when I learned it actually was a thing. It blew my mind too.

Simply untrue

Some of us still like physical copies and aren't pirates.

>There were more multiplayer/co-operative experiences offered by the N64.
>The console with no FG among the lack of other things
>more multiplayer/co-operative experiences

>Doesn't even have Dark cloud 2
Opinion discarded. Get some taste in PS2.

Spyro trilogy, Symphony of the Night, Silent Hill, Tekken, Twisted Metal, Parasite Eve.

You know, just literally tons of games.

what game is this from?

...

I'm sure it's mostly incidental but there is a degree truth to it since I feel like the "cool kids" who were always doing acting out doing things like stealing their dad's booze/tobacco but didn't really play a lot of video games overall had a Playstation for sports / Tony Hawk / GTA.

>gta
>gta
>gta
>gta
>kingdom hearts
you are black,right?

>Spyro trilogy
If you like that kind of thing I guess.
>SOTN
On PSP through Dracula X With rondo. No reason to own PS1.
>Silent hill
This is a bad thing? 2-4 are all that matter.
>Tekken
Horribly outdated nd not even nsotalgic. Fighting games aren't revisited just go play 6 or 7.
>Twisted metal
Better on Ps2.
>Parasite Eve
You got me there, but like i said, "A handful f RPGS"

I have a fat and a slim, fat never reads discs, slim decides seemingly at random (I've been told it must have something to do with the eye-lense-whatever it's called, sooner or later I'll check). But it's not just that, the console comes with too many annoyances for me. Poor image quality (can't compete at all with my Xbox), annoying memory cards with small memory (you even need PS1 ones for the PS1 games), only two controller slots forcing me to buy an extra accessory, some PS1 games for some reason don't work properly, and I've been warned that a lot of slims, for whatever reason, can't play dual-layer games like Yakuza 2 and GoW (haven't had the chance to test that yet)

It just has been problem after problem for me. I only put up with it because of the games, can't emulate because my laptop is also a piece of crap