Which is the better game, Super Mario 64 or Super Mario 64 DS?

Which is the better game, Super Mario 64 or Super Mario 64 DS?

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64 for a first time playthrough. DS on repeat.

Childhood is idolizing Mario 64

Adulthood is knowing that Sunshine is the best

DS is objectively better. They actually managed to emulate the joystick pretty well ingame once you get passed the weird dpad feeling.

the og version obviously, but there was nothing really "wrong" with the ds version.

ultra 64 has analog controls
case settled

Define "better" in objective terms.

DS. I have a shallow, feminine jaw

Car metaphors

>Super Mario 64
>older car
>rust in spots
>probably needs a new interior
>drives absolutely perfect and is fun to just drive around

Super Mario 64 DS
>newer of a car
>shiny and has newly upholstered seats
>heated seats and subwoofers
>just doesn't drive as well, steering wheel sticks, gas pedal sometimes takes a second to register, breaks down more often

not to say that DS breaks down or has more glitches or whatever my point is that it has new bells and whistles but it isn't as fun to play or control and as such 64 is the better game

>8 directions
laughing_anime_girls.exe

This. DS is NG+

Original. My cousin is a turbo Chad who only likes Halo and SM64. I felt so extremely gay when I finally convinced him to get 64ds and we figured out the absolute disservice and shitting on of a game we both appreciate so much.

Is that why it's so much artificially harder because of the bad controls?

>Walking in Super Mario 64
>hold the analog stick in a direction
>Running in Super Mario 64
>hold the analog stick a bit more in a direction
>Tip-toeing in Super Mario 64
>hold the analog stick a bit less in a direction

>Walking in SM64DS
>press D-pad (which is locked to 8 directions) in desired direction
>Running in SM64DS
>hold down a button while pressing the D-pad in the desired direction
>Tip-toeing SM64DS
>put your finger on the touch screen or take out the stylus and use that

No, I just see it that way because I think 64 is the pure experience that everyone should play at least once if they wanna play this game, while DS may have more content and some appreciated updates but changes things up too much to be considered the "true" SM64.

DS is a remix. It's the master quest.

da looks better but 64 plays better

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are most of these examples supposed to look better on the ds version because if not whoever made this image should have cherry picked some better images

list of problems with 64DS that i could come up with from the top of my head

>extra characters sounds interesting but Wario is a slow pain to control, Yoshi's gimmick is mostly to just transform into other characters, and Luigi is slippery as usual
>instead of making it so you want to use the other characters because they are as fun or more fun than Mario to control, certain stars are locked behind them, even ones that Mario had absolutely no problem getting by himself
>switching characters is done by leaving the level you're in, going to a room in the castle, walking through the door, waiting for a second, then travelling back to the level you wanted to be in
>new stars are either forced character swap bullshit or uninspired like get the 5 red coins except they're stars now and other shit that feels tacked on rather than genuinely adding to the game
>instead of adding to the levels the new parts of them are a safety net for children so they don't fall to their death in a stage like tick tock clock which is one of the last levels you can possibly go to in the game
>controls are worse since they jumped the gun and made the remake on a console that doesn't have an analog stick
>graphics are probably objectively superior but at times lack the charm of the original (bob-omb battlefield stands out here)
>stupid minigame rabbits litter the castle even after you've caught them once

positives:
>the minigames can be fun
>a button centers the camera behind the character
>it's portable

all in all it's no contest for me, the original is the better experience with better controls. oh wait it's worse because muh extra characters and muh 30 new stars

>tfw SM64DS is older today than SM64 was when the remake launched

ds version looks better

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People on here are too used to defaulting to hating the thing they don't like the best.
Both games were awesome. One looks better (classic wise) and the other, being the same game, has more content.
Playing 64 first and then DS on repeat is the best way to do it. That is why so many people were excited to play 64 on a handheld. I know I sure as fuck was at the time the DS was pushed out.

This shit is fucking stupid to complain about. It wasn't a 1 to 1 replication of the 64 game obviously. Changing some bland or hardware restrictive models and updating enemies to newer styled current game enemies for a newer game isn't that surprising. I mean they updated every other model in the game.

same game with more content except it controls like shit in comparison

the levels where you have to unlock the characters are fucking horrible and the d-pad makes me want to stick fire ants up my dickhole

more detail = shit creativity and bland colors for "realistic design"
restrictions = more vibrant cartoony graphics

64 has far better controls and no stupid multi-character gimmick
DS is better otherwise

I think Super Mario 64 could use another remake. DS is okay, but the system just wasn't really capable of doing a remake that replaced the original. They could make a quick and dirty remake for the Switch, just update the camera and graphics, leave everything else completely intact including level geometry, and you'd have the definitive version. When you start adding shit like new stars and characters you add the possibility of fucking it up and making the new content not as good as the original content, which is what happened with DS.

Super Mario 64 played on the wii U wins no contest

Where does one purchase a widescreen CRT?

I'm fairly certain those genuinely exist

Super Mario 64: 9.5/10
Super Mario 64 DS: 8/10

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hdcrts are basically shitty lcd tvs

I don't even give a shit about the graphics, the game straight-up controls worse. I would accept any graphics if the game was as good to play.

They both look great.

When you first got your DS and pop'd that shit in and saw the opening area. You never once thought to compare it to the 64 game, graphic wise, and you just were amazed they were able to put this on a handheld.
It's easy to compare this shit picture to picture. But are people on here even old enough to remember the launch of the fucking DS? This type of graphics on a handheld was fucking mind blowing.

I wouldn't mind the DS version's controls so much if you didn't have to hold down a fucking button to run

This.

If you are willing to put up with the DS version for more than a few minutes you are a faggot that's never played the original, or worse you're just so bad at games you don't notice or care about how Mario controls in a Mario game.

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This, exactly. Very impressive

Why the hell is Metal Mario so fat in the DS version?

because he's wario..........................

Wario isn't in 64, though.

dot dot dot

Super Mario 64 ds still looks amazing imo. The only reason they complain is because ninty modernized the enemies with the designs with Mario games from gamecube era.

The new characters were made horribly in DS. Yoshi was slow and couldn't do half the things Mario could do, Wario had moves but was also sluggish, and Luigi absolutely broke the game with his tornado backflip.

The snowman is the worst one.

dual screens = fatter content

I'm gonna have to go with no Rainbow Bowser.

>being an underage lowest common denominator shithead
>not listening to your elders/betters when they explain to you why your opinions are worthless

I maintain that everyone who prefers the DS version played it first. It's the only logical explanation.

>not playing Sm64Ds on a 3ds

>emulating the jostick
>8 directions
>2 speeds

DS version is superior because of the Luigi Casino minigames

>mapping 8-direction D-pad to an analog stick magically makes those controls into analog controls
how retarded are you?

>pretending to be retarded

WHY ISNT ALL 64 ROMHACKS NETPLAY ENABLED AND SUPPORTED ON THE SWITCH ID BUY IT IJ A SECOND IF THEY GOT RID OF BEING A CUUNT AND A BITCH TO FANS WHO LOVE GAME SERIES

Luigi Picture Poker is pretty great but you can also play it on New Super Mario Bros. which is the better game (because it's not an inferior remake of a game released in 1996)

>Why did they make the cartoony thing look realistic? Nobody wants that, fucking retards.
>Why did they make the realistic thing look cartoony? Nobody wants that, fucking retards.

they censored him and replaced him with with wario.

To be fair, SM64DS is straight up better on 3DS.

I agree with the other lads though, SM64DS has different physics than SM64 and it makes the game worse in a lot of ways, although, I still enjoyed it a lot for what it was.

but nsmb is an inferior remake of a game released in 1990

You still have better controls than the dpad or the touchscreen. Also,
>8 directions
I present to (you) pic related

DS would be the definitive edition if the controls were better. As it stands, I prefer playing the original just because the controls are so much more tight.

DS is a nice iteration on the game, 99% of the content they added is great. Sadly, the 8-direction control completely, utterly ruins it. 3D Mario is about the fluid platforming mechanics and the d-pad means you're fighting the DS rather than the game world. Waste of what is otherwise a great game.

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>being so retarded you can't tell digital from analog

I don't think anyone would argue that playing the game with the Circle Pad feels better than playing the game with a D-Pad, but the controls aren't really any better. It's still not analog control.

The format of the controller does try to get you to go in eight directions when fully tilted, but it's actually possible to go in more than eight directions unlike 64DS

Is that the gritty remake on the right?

>The Super Mario

Yes, what is that supposed to prove?
Do you actually think the stick is limited to 8 directions?

Hard to tell if you're just pretending to be a fucking retard or just an average pedogaf member.

>muh analog
have fun falling off Tick Tock Clock and Rainbow Ride because you tilted the stick a bit too far.

I will say that I thought the Bowser/Peach rape scene they added for 64DS was pretty tasteful.

have fun getting good because you apparently don't know how analog sticks work and how they can be used to control a video game

Are you actually trying to say that a D-Pad and a run button are better controls in a 3D platforming game than an analog stick? Is it fucking 1994?

>This entire post

As opposed to a dpad, where you can only choose between walking or sanic speed.

>Love the new levels and bosses
>Love being able to play as Wario and Luuigi (Not Yoshi though fuck him)
>Love the new stars
>But
>Looks like ass
>Controls like ass
>Can't do stars in any order anymore
>Luigi is broken
>Silver Stars are fucking awful

Forcing yourself to not tilt the stick too far is way more annoying than just not holding the run button.

Yeah, having to tap the dpad very lightly a bunch of times is way better than just pushing a stick.

see

See , and also my cock up your mother's ass

(Are)(Retarded)

And thats why I play Sm64Ds on a 3ds

>a 3ds magically changes the coding in a ds game to accept analog input

I always replay the DS version because the new characters and worlds are fun.

And what reason would that be?
Because you're a fucking retard?

My mango, I was just saying SM64DS is better on 3DS, of course it doesn't change the 8 directional digital input to analog, it's just that on 3DS, it's less bad than on DS, it runs smoother and is easier to control.

How is a palette swap with the speed turned down "fun," if I may be so bold as to ask?

No, cause its better to control with a circle pad than a dpad.

The new characters actually control differently, and there's new worlds.

When I played it, it was easier to just think of it as a new game, than as SM64, since it shits all over the perfection of movement that was SM64.

This, right looks like Counter Strike soul-less trash.

What? Wario is the only character slower than Mario. Luigi is faster. Plus they all have fun powers that adds more fun in.

Yeah, because it's not like SM64 was designed around its shitty 8-direction camera or anything. Oh wait.

>Wario and Luigi get Mario's old powers
>Yoshi gets fucking nothing that only works in the two snow levels
>Gee Mario why does your mom let you have two ! block Powers?

Keep moving the goal posts, fatass

so nintendo cleaned up their baby's-first-3D-art-studio designs and made them look more on par with their intended design?

and thats a bad thing because why?

im an oldfag and ive hated some of the design choices in that game since i was 9...

Circle pad controls you illiterate douche.

>8 direction camera
>camera can be aimed in any direction mario is facing
What did he mean by this?

It's still converting it to digital input.