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I liked C team the most. The sexual tension between Junpei and Akane was great.

carlos > Tenmyouji > ztd sigma > 999 junpei > vlr sigma > ztd junpei

I can't, really.
I wanted to like Q-Team more but for every act of decency and shred of humanity Eric showed, they tripled the amount of times he sperged out for no reason other than to shotgunmance.

D team-The only team that sees the bigger picture and tries to make sure everyone gets out alive. And the only team with no psychos on it.
Q team-The only non mental patient is a robot boy with no head.
C team-Junpei is an emo douche and Akane is even more psycho than ever. Carlos is a madman and /ourguy/

So what is Sup Forums‘s stance on ZTD now. Is there still hate or has it all mellowed out.

>the only team dialogue actually written by Uchi is better than the team dialogue outsourced
Can't argue with that, but did you know that Carlos is a firefighter?

>ZTD junpei at the bottom
correct
>VLR siggy below junpei, ZTD sigma and tenmoldy
Worst opinion I have ever seen. Look at this glorious son of a bitch. He's buff as fuck, has a curious cat tick, and packed VLR with so many fantastic one-liners I was depressed to see his watered down older self in ZTD.

I want nothing more to do with the ZE series after ZTD, but I would gladly play a spinoff if it solely featured siggy.

if there wasn't hate, the threads about it would either be more regular, or hit bump limit whenever we had them.
a lot of expectations were shat on. there will always be hate.

Let's talk about the only games worthy of being in the Zero Escape series. As far as I'm concerned, Zero Escape 3 is still not released, I'm still in october 2015.

Will that retard with his shitty "Snake is Brother" ever stop shilling his theory in every thread ?
What will be Kyle's role in ZE3 ? I'm so excited ! Finally ZE3 will be released in response to Operation BlueBird. Uchikoshi will not disappoint his fans, and anyway there's no risk of it happening since it's a sequel. The changes in artstyle are just aesthetic, there won't be more pandering to the western audience or new players who missed the sequels.
I can't wait for the release !

;_;

ztd Sigma is a piece of cardboard

So what were Delta's motives?

I hate to agree with you, because every team had it's faults.
>D team
Sigma is nowhere near as fun as his VLR self, diana is a mary sue and phi is gone for over half the game. It only gets worse when the truth is revealed about phi's relation to sigma and diana, that shit killed me.
>C-team
Junpei is an alcoholic asshole and akane is a complete psycho. The only redeeming feature of this group was carlos and even he couldn't save this game.
>Q-team
Eric is an asshole cuck, Mira is an unemotional psycho bitch, and Q is completely forgettable.

ZTD story could have been largely redeemed if the characters didn't suck.
>get rid of akane and junpei, they were shoehorned in because uchi has a hardon for them
>if a character has to return make it clover, snake, or seven
>don't remove phi for the picture and scrap the daughter angle
>have siggy be funnier, he would still be perverted after all that time
>get rid of eric
>make carlos or siggy the only main character

I dont see how Diana is a mary sue.
She killed billions

Speaking of which, Uchikoshi is supposed to be revealing more about a new game this year. Project Psync or whatever. I can’t say I have many expectations. Don’t even know what it is about or how it plays.

Junpei and Akane were in the game because they said they were in VLR.
Sigma wouldn't be a perv because his 67 year old mind is in his younger body and hes more mature.

I still have my pic on my phone, it was a pretty amazing moment. Seeing so many people on Sup Forums band together to get a series they love back on track. Shame it ended so poorly.

If they had kept that angle and actually made her a secretly malicious character, she would have been more interesting. But even that moment was forced, same with all the scenarios leading to VLR.

Honestly it was a pretty descent theory. I feel the same way with FFversus before they changed it to FFXV.

There's no way of telling, I'm hoping he goes back to the VN format and does a completely new story separate from the ZE universe. He's stated that's it's supposed to be the best adventure game in the universe. A bold claim coming from the guy whose last game was ZTD...

They never stated they were involved in ZTD directly in VLR. Tenmyouji searched flawlessly for akane and akane was just supposed to be a sideline supporter. Uchi purposely rewrote the story and forced them in.

And Sigma would never truly grow up the fact he still had his cat tick for a small scene in ZTD proves it. The siggy I know and love would never let 40 years of isolation on the moon break him.

Goddamnit I just want a sequel to VLR where siggy gets to play the hero. He was so much fun to play as in VLR.

This.

Junpei literally says he was in the Nevada experiment
Akane literally says at the end of VLR that she and Sigma were in the Nevada experiment to stop the outbreak

Nice tits on far right

I'll have to look this up later. I swear Junpei stated that he was investigating it but never made it inside. This is reinforced by the fact that Uchi had akane wipe his memory in ZTD in the route leading to VLR. He has no memory of being involved. The man would clearly remember seeing his waifu again after so long. You might be right about akane, could've sworn she was just pulling strings from behind the curtain.

Makes me want to run through VLR again. But I don't have 50 hours to spare to replay a game no matter how much I love it. Even to find all the great hidden dialogues.

>d-team
>hey sigma i know we just spent an entire fucking game practicing and mastering SHIFT, how about we never fucking use it once
>sounds good to me phi

>A bold claim coming from the guy whose last game was ZTD...
Would you be pissed off if all it was was just a localization of Punchline to North America?

Joking aside, yeah, it wouldn’t be the first time such a claim has been made for one of his games. I distinctly remember a similar tone being pitched for ZE3 when it was first revealed to be in production. I think it was specifically pitched by the creator of Danganronpa series. Might be in the link below but i think it was definitely captured on Aksys’ YT channel.

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>everyone proceeds to learn how to shift
even worse

Such a cop out in the story. Only one of many.

I just beat 999.
Probably the best story about a group of people rusing the shit out of someone I've ever read.

Started VLR and I'm really not feeling it. It seems like a step backwards in almost every respect.

>It seems like a step backwards in almost every respect.
VLR is pretty good in its own right. Not saying it’s perfect and neither is 999 for that matter.

ZTD is the step backwards.

Everyone wants to crucify Delta for making them play the Decision Game, but nobody gets angry with Akane for making them play the Nonary Games. why?

VLR takes time to get truly good, especially if you didn't start Cyan door.

the Nonary games are designed such that nobody has to die to beat them. people HAVE to die in order for the Decision Game to be over unless they just win the coinflip

that and Akane kind of peaced out after her first host. Alice and Clover are fairly mad at her in Another Time.

Give it some time, VLR started off slow for me as well. It's more of a second half game. Are you at least enjoying best boy? Sigma made the game for me.

Isn't it kind of fucked up to think that Diana ate Gab in order to give birth to Phi and Delta?

Phi and Delta were made from nutrients provided by Gab.

I don't know, man.

The changes, both graphically and in interaction, seem like huge missteps. The 3D looks awful compared to spritework, having a proper camera makes things slower and clickables less clear, the cursor can be a finnicky little bitch, the lack of beeps if you turn off voices, the far more flaccid setup... It just feels subpar.

Oh and do yourself a favor and get the fuck out now. There's spoilers abound dude.

Because the nonary games led to a 9 year old girl getting to live

>Nobody had to die
the 9th man would disagree

because by the time they realize that Zero is Akane, she basically left building Q and isn’t in the game anymore. Even in VLR, the game is pretty much over when she gets her true reveal. Delta, on the other hand, flaunts that he set up the whole thing and still has them doing bat crazy shit even after his reveal.

That girl later became a deranged psychopath that only thinks of Junpei's cock

but he literally didn't
Ace killed him and that was that, it even states in 999 that the game was designed such that everyone could make it out alive.

>trying to interact with objects in a room on the 3ds
God that was clunky as shit. In Uchi's defense it was his first time doing a camera. I was glad to get rid of the beeps however. Akane and Clover's dialogue about made my ears bleed in 999. Like damn, I just wanna hear the music.

>Gets pushed through a door
>Explodes
Now why did he explode? Because Akane designed it that way

I don't know about DS, but in the HD version you can just turn sfx down. The deafwning silence intermittently interrupted by Sigma's bleep blood in VLR sucks almost as much as listening to the voice acting (both dubs).

>uchi admitted she knew full well what she was doing setting up the nonary games
She's a cold blooded murderer too. She set him up to kill those people.
I actually liked the japanese dub of VLR. Ah, that makes sense I didn't get the nonary games.

Akane didn't even design the games though, she was just going off Lord Gordain's shit. and again, all of that was according to the rules. 9th man didn't have to die for everyone else to get out, Ace just wanted him dead.
i get what you're saying, but you ARE still being pedantic, nigger.

C team had the SHIFTing shenaningans going for them, also Carlos being based.

D Team had that godly baby ending and the dynamic of the choices were cool. A shame Phi was absent for most of it

Q Team had the most mystery, but somehow they made it so Sean was the only character who didn't felt like a purely support character

I want Carlos to be my husband

If Akane and Santa never set up the game, three people wouldn't have died. Yeah those guys were assholes and they didnt kill them directly, but they are still responsible

q door

>godly baby ending
The moment my ship sank in flames, fuck you uchi.

>She's a cold blooded murderer too. She set him up to kill those people.
That’s one of the aspects I love about 999. She knew how Ace was going to play and set the scenario up around it. She played him like a god damn fiddle. She got her revenge and he ended up killing his close coworkers as a result. I love it.

Yes but if they didn't die, then the games in the future never happen the way they should and Junpei never sends the correct info to Akane in the past.

>It's an Eric kills everyone episode

What ship? Phi being Sigma's daughter makes their entire interactions all the more endearing.

The world would be better without Akane

not him, but when Phi and Sigma got locked in the AB room for 45 minutes for the first time in VLR I just wanted them to bang it out.

It would be easier. Junpei disagrees on the better part. Would you really make Junpei sad?

Akane and Junpei murdered Carlos a hundred times for no reason. Fuck them

The fuck!?

I'd have a hard time calling her setup in 999 "cold blooded." She went out of her way to make a setup where every innocent is fine and give Hongou several methods to escape without hurting anyone.

She knew he was too despicable to ever repent and probably enjoyed her revenge, but I can't even blame her. He had every opportunity to just not be a cunt.

>Four young adults and an old man meme the fuck out of four old guys while a college student and a whore look on in confusion
Narrative masterpiece.

Pretty sure Clover wasn't in on it too.

By whore she didn't meant Lotus, user.

Shit opinion friend

She didn't know it was a fucking work the whole time, but she was at least aware that somebody was gonna stab the fuck out of her if things didn't pan out.

There's some weird narrative hiccups, actually, like why characters who know better imply they can't all escape in some routes or how the fuck professor Retard thought he was getting all the way to the 9 door with just a 9 bracelet.

Ill have you know I plan to choose Ally

Eat shit.

Who the fuck cares? He's one of Ace's henchmans, all of them are killed, by Ace himself no less, even though Akane and Aoi set it up that way.
Still, he's not some innocent poor soul so fucking stop.

Same haha

>Phi is revealed to be Sigma's daughter in ztd
>The writers still have them make dirty comments to each other in game

...

Akane's outfit is literally 10/10. You cann't dispute this.

MR DIO

If it ends up as a series I have 0 faith in it. Otherwise I'm expecting same old Uchi twists.

Hey cinder block

DIO, NOW THAT'S A NAME I CAN TRUST IN

post Phi

So what is her true boob size?

donno. i thought i had that concept sketch of her naked but apparently i don't.

Q-team worst and one of the reasons why this game left such a bad taste in my mouth. With very minor rewrites Q-team wouldn't even be necessary to get the plot

Who was the best boob lady?

I was disappointed that ZTD Sigma was just as much of an airhead as VLR Sigma, except with more formal speech patterns. He wasn't actually prepared for DCOM at all, his younger self would have done just as well.

we have gone off-topic.

It's no use.

>Sigma set up the AB game to train himself in shifting
>He never shifts in ztd

They do actually (openly) jump once but Phi is the one to bring up the idea. It's when they get selected for execution.

Carlos was too good for ztd

>MY SHIFT CONNECTION'S BEEN CUT

I thought he was likeable but his total irrelevance to anything that was going on was strange. Like there was some missing element of his backstory. Everyone was theorizing that he was a Left clone based on his design.

He's an all American firefighter that loves his sister. He's also the world's greatest shifter and wingman. That's all I need

>but then i never coulda met you guys !

Go ahead and shoot me! Don't worry, I won't die!

Would ZTD have been better if it wasn't a sequel, and had an entirely original cast?

Only if it meant it got more time and budget.

Eric did nothing wrong

>Carlos is literally the best and /ourguy/
>Punished Junpei is fun except when he gets hung up Akane
>Akane a bitch Clover should have been series main girl
>Diane a Cute A CUTE
>WTF is even with whichever time line Sigma and Phi are in I can't even keep up
>WTF they're father daughter? I regret all the porn of them from VLR
>Q worst main over whole series
>Beta icecream is ok would probably be better if he didn't have to deal with a child and an invalid cock blocking him
>Crazy chick was a weak character all around.

Carlos can stay.

>I regret all the porn of them
normie

lotus because she was actually a developed character not just a developed chest

convince me to uninstall this piece of shit

I can't bring myself to finish it but I leave it on incase I ever get the urge to, even though I know it will never come

The power to MIND HACK