We had a good thread going, let's keep it up. What's wrong with diversity in video games?

We had a good thread going, let's keep it up. What's wrong with diversity in video games?

From 2014 onwards, after the fappening and the faGGotry combined, nu-Sup Forumstards (Or I guess I should just call them "Sup Forumstards", because they are the new status quo of that poor board) always bitch about "forced diversity".
What is "forced diversity"? Simple. Every single game with a black person in it is "forced diversity", unless
A) It was released before Sup Forumstards started contaminating this board (GTA: San Andreas which would be shitposted mercilessly if it came out today)
B) It's an Eastern game (It's okay when Japan does it)
It's that simple. They always have some excuse as to why this one video game in particular that they're currently bitching about is "forced diversity", either it's because the black person is too stereotypical or too unrealistic. Whatever excuse lets them spam "WE" memes in video game threads works. But they're not the problem. They're just a boogeyman. Remember that. Remember that when they start arguing endlessly about off-topic shit like how niggers are inferior or trannies are mentally ill or refugees are rapists or some other shit like that. They're just a boogeyman. Those off-topic posts you're seeing shitting up this board aren't real.

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Because diversity is about replacing whites, I'd rather not be replaced and I'd rather characters in video games not be replaced.

>Every single game with a black person in it is "forced diversity",

Does adding black person improve a game?

Beautiful post

no, it makes it worse because n*ggers are inferior

at least in the western vidya development wold, its become more of a focal point that actually making an entertaining video game. devs would rather cover all the socio-political bases to make sure no special snowflakes get offended or feel left out than write better stories, add better locations, invent new gameplay mechanics, create better soundtracks or keep the fans of these games that actually buy the products their selling.

there doesnt need to be another thread about this - discussing it just gives them more reason to ignore the things that they should be working on. imaginary diversity in fictional games is NOT important.

Nothing. It's the addition of shittily written characters that's a problem.

I'm not kidding when I say I'm turning this into a copypasta

Because I don't buy their argument. Besides gaming's biggest mascot is a person of color because Italians aren't white.

Fuck off with that word, diversity is code word for niggerification, you never see Arabs or Cambodians or Mongolians or Lithuanians, it's always the token negro. And I personally have a problem with this race in particular for obvious reasons.

>Sup Forums hates diversity (non-whites)
>Sup Forums loves japanese games (made by non-whites)

Honorary Aryans.

Trying to force multiculturalism will only result in suffering and death because there will always be a struggle for who gets to be the dominant culture.

And guess what happens in nonwhite dominant cultures? It can be answered by the nonwhites risking their lives to get to white nations.

Virtue signalling about diversity now will lead to war and enslavement later.

better question: whats one game from the last decade that was markedly improved by the inclusion of multiracial or LGBTQ+ characters?

Overwatch is not an example - the game would have been the same if all the heroes were soulless robots - the characters different play styles are far more relevant than their nationalities.

Most diversity characters are written under the lenses of a white liberal nu-male, and not any actual minorities.

You can imagine the cringe that arises from that.

It shits up the plot because it tends to become some leftist bullshit because the writers can't make a good plot. Basically, it becomes bad because the writers are shit at their job.

There are 2 cases of diversity in games:
1) If it makes sense in the setting (like GTA SA), Sup Forums will make some WE WUZ jokes and that's it. If that seriously bothers you I recommend killing yourself.
2) If it doesn't make sense, it's a forced diversity.

Let's be real though, aside from white virgins sperging out, what does excluding them improve? Personally I see it as a non-issue, if anything I get a laugh out of ridiculous characters.

i don't have a problem with representation in video games. i have a problem when it's done to force an agenda, which it often is. you don't see japan forcing "ethnic" characters in their games, but they also have issues of their own outside of the scope of western obsession with representation.

San Andreas discussion would not exist if the game came out today. It'd be the equivalent of Battlefield 1 or Mafia 3 threads. It would all turn into "WE WUZ" spamming and derails about black people being subhuman, etc. If you think that's ok, I recommend tipping your fedora and unsheathing your katana.

Everyone whined about black people in Wolf2 but that made sense. It was set in the US, of course there are fucking black people

The walking dead

Then again, I can only think of one line about Leigh being black. And it was more that he assumed another dude was thinking about race, when he wasn't.
Then he laughs about it.

I don't think he was "diversity" though. To me, that word means brownwashing stuff to appeal to people like that guy that wrote a massive post about pol bogeymen.

Nothing wrong with characters that aren't white, nor even some stereotypes for that matter but if that's ALL they are then you gotta wonder why they were included.

That's the problem with you faggots. you don't see anything wrong with this mentality that apes MUST be represented in a fucking entertainment medium. Like football and basketball wasn't enough, now they ALSO must dance in our video games.

You fucking kike slaves will never see anything wrong with bigotry of low expectation until the fist comes flying at your face.

There WILL be race wars in this country at some point. The psyops is too fucking obvious.

typical samefag bait thread

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Diversity in anything has the same problem of fanservice in anything: It's nothing but marketing, shit forced in a work so it can appeal to X audience, instead of just making a good work that anybody who wants to can enjoy or ignore it, which is the fucking point of any creation.

>shitposting on every fucking game ever
>WAAAAAHHHHHH MOMMY THE WAYCISS IS SHITPOSTING THEY CAN'T DO THAT

Go back to fucking Neogaf

>It's okay to bitch about shitposting except when Sup Forums does it

I loathe other kinds of shitposting too, it's not just Sup Forums I have a problem with. Although they are definitely the biggest issue on Sup Forums right now.

san andreas was meant to be an early 90s gangster romp, a game version of boyz in the hood. its representative of the culture to an almost satirical degree. the pol-isms and other shit don't even need to be said because the game is that ridiculous. i'd argue the louder people would be the ones calling the game racist because it paints blacks as violent crazy coons, but that's just me. hell the main anatagonist is a black man voiced by samuel l jackson.

diversity in the walking dead is a given based on where the story takes place. when i started season 3 and they were speaking spanish, i had no problem with it. of course there are spanish people living in contemporary america.

but there were no black nazi women fighting in WWI, and there were wouldnt be any black women with afro's in a nazi controlled america, either. theres a big difference between organic and forced diversity, and game devs really just dont fucking care anymore

Oh shut the fuck up.
That's a lie and you know it.

Blacks being almost everywhere in settings where they should be a smaller minority than like 1% (battlefield 1)
Is completely different than San Andreas, where blacks are the majority in a setting where it makes sense that they be a majority.

If anything, it is the other end of the spectrum that cries about that sort of portrayal.

Like with resi5. Where they went all "wah wah, you shooting blackies!"
No shit dummy, the game is set in africa.
Just like you shot Mexicans in Mexico in 4.

See, they want lots of black people, but they don't want negative portrayals too.

Neither true nor an argument.

tell me good reason why people outside of your own race should not be exterminated
Im asian and I want all filthy gaijin piggu to die

i haven't played the walking dead games, but the story is set in georgia for the show. if the game is the same, we have a lot of black folk here, man. i'm white and i'm a minority in my area. i'm not kidding.

>That's a lie and you know it.
It isn't. If San Andreas came out today, it would be 90% Sup Forumstard bullshit in any thread about it. If you deny that, you're either retarded or dishonest.

I agree 100%

Forgot to list beta white virgins sperging out as a plus

Overwatch would never be as interesting if they were soulless robots. This idea what everyone would play the same game if it had absolutely no creative output is retarded. Hell, the fucking robot characters are great because they're quirky, charming goofballs.

Also, every single prominent fighting game in existence. Just because recently people having been awkwardly forcing that shit, doesn't mean that plenty of games haven't been doing it for a long time. Not every game is written by a retard like Anthony Burch. The problem is that a lot of western developers fuck it up and just push pointless agendas, and even when they do, the very community they pander still hate it because it wasn't handled in the most pitch perfect way imaginable.

Doing in naturally, instead of forcing it, is what matters.

I mean, just imagine this pasty Swede writing a black woman with a bone to pick with whitey. Her every scene can be broken down to: angry black woman ABSOLUTELY RIGHTFULLY mad at whitey, but then good whitey man shows error of her ways and she calms down.

You are asking tumblrinas to write shit they don't understand.

Who knew years later after complaining about SJWs that a bunch of virgins would adopt victim complexes.

Loving every laugh

>Battlefield 1 or Mafia 3 threads
Both of these games deserve it. BF1 had black classes in WW1 european teams, they even scrapped character customization to make some classes "diverse". And Mafia was a series about Italian mafia, this "black civil rights" setting has no place in it.
Nobody complained about blacks in Wolf2 until their twitter account started comparing nazis to Trump.

San Andreas would deserve it too if it came out today. There's always a convenient excuse.

Small wonder that a European developer is better at writing European Pulp WW2 than American 60s Pulp.

They really shat the bed with most of the characters but everything that was German itself was pretty spot on like the first. I still hop they make a third one so we can finish off Mecha-Hitler.

We'll the main character in season 1 (the only good season) is a black guy.
He is one of the best written and voiced protagonists in a long time.

None of the characters feel like they are shoehorned in for diversities sake.

What's the excuse for Dishonored: Death of the Outsider? What did that game do wrong?

>Retards from opposite extremes shit all over themselves accomplishing nothing

Just another day.

I for one can't believe they hamfisted robots into the game. Tired of Blizzard shoving their diversity agenda down my fucking throat

Except it made sense in Wolf2, it’s set in the US, having black people in it isn’t a shocker and the ones you ally with are basically a part of an underground group. This argument also doesn’t apply for completely fictional settings like Dishonored 2, where everyone constantly spammed the unfunny WE posting ad nauseum and shitposted it to death

Keep being indifferent to the psyops dude.
Your kind will be the first to go.

Its because the entire approach of progressivism in the west has been commoditized by large corporations looking for PR and shot in the foot by overzealous ideologs that have no idea how to actually bring people together in a time where economic prospects are shakey and social media preys on our worst insecurities.

Progressivism is a net good in the world, but what we have nowadays are people that let academic assessments of advantage overpower the human one-to-one communication that actually defeats bigotry.

If you make a racial faux-paw on twitter, you're not beholden to apologize to your black friend, because you hurt him or her personaly and that makes you feel bad, you're responsible for the feelings of every black person on twitter. People aren't designed to deal with this kind of mass relations, people can't grow individually and legitimately overcome prejudice from a mob of offended people doxing them.

Not to mention how commoditized yet collectivised empowerment is nowadays. You see alot of young women being fed female empowerment through pop culture, yet some of them individually they don't seem like they have much of a backbone. They replace personal individual strength with communal reinforcement.

yes, every game needs to have some dumb bad grunts. niggers are like Orcs

GTA V had a black protagonist involved with a bunch of minorities, and I don't recall people losing their shit about that. Why? Oh right, context.

This. There were no fucking robots back then. Hell, there are no robots like that NOW. Get fucking real. All these "transhumanism" faggots are pissing me off.

Because it came out before August 2014, in 2013.
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Because video game writers are talentless hacks and are incapable of tackling something as complex as racial identity and race relations. Basically they think they're making the video game equivalent of an award winning film like Moonlight when in reality they're making the equivalent of a blaxploitation film like Blacula.

No, see the we wuz shit is generally a response to blacks being shoehorned into shit where they clearly shouldn't be (bf1) , or being promoted as super unique, despite being the same old stereotypes (Wolf 2, Mafia 3)

San Andreas had neither of those.

Of course there would be some shit posters that would spam it, given that they'll do it at the mere sight of melanin.
But I doubt there'd be anywhere near as much upset, given the setting and characters actually making sense together.

Don't try to conflate the two. San Andreas was and still is very highly regarded, even by people who fucking hate the way they keep copy pasting the same afro black lady into shit.
It is generally used as an example of how to do black dudes in games well.

Oh, let’s also not forget about the new Beyond Good and Evil. Can’t have a black woman there, either, in the completely fucking fictional setting, or that’s “forced diversity”.

So, what, is your solution to only have white characters in video games? Even if the black character is just a normal character, everyone bitches regardless. See: Death of the Outsider.

better question: whats one game from the last decade that was markedly improved by the inclusion of hot anime waifus and lolis? Is it really functionally better as a game because it makes your peepee feel good?
The fact is, most people here are simply irate because a game exists that doesn't pander to you. None of this shit really effects how good a game is, just the demographic it will target. Not everything is necessarily made to cater to your wants.

This
God forbid a game have a nog in it without underage Sup Forumsdittors having a tantrum

You're hysterical XD

I've been looking for this picture, saw it once but forgot to save it.

Mods better amp their shit up next E3. Last E3 was insufferable.

Diversity isn’t the problem, it’s when they are used as the main marketing and put on there specifically for that idea

We can’t have a flamboyant character anymore, it has to be gay.
We can’t eveb have a subtly gay character, they have to be in your face about it.

If it turns out to be a great character than sure, not if they overstay their welcome while not doing anything that’s relevant to the plot

Other times it’s because they are flat out terrible, Sarah Ryder in Mass Effect Andromeda could’ve been great but the combination of bad writing, bad facials and that garbage voice acting made it horrible

>Nobody complained about blacks in Wolf2 until their twitter account started comparing nazis to Trump.

Bullshit, you were already complaining when the game was promoted the last E3, way before the jokes in Twitter.

GTA: San Andreas would be considered unnecessary shoehorned shit if it were released today and Post-2014 Sup Forumstards were here.. It would be shat on for trying to be too unique and for keeping the same ghetto stereotypes as always.
It only gets away with it because it was released before that cancerous mindset started.

San Andreas is the only GTA I havent played. Just cant get into this "Ogga Bogga, nigger watermelon, stealing bike shieeeeeeeet"

Yeah. Trump wasn't elected or anything.

Same example as I gave for the first question my nigga.

The walking dead.

Imagine if TF2 came out now and those mouth-breathing faggots saw the Demoman. Nothing but crying 'forced diversity' and WE WUZ BRAVEHEART N SHEEIT threads for weeks.

>We can’t have a flamboyant character anymore, it has to be gay.
Gay people are only fine if they're unique and over the top, got it.

>We can’t eveb have a subtly gay character, they have to be in your face about it.
Wait, gay people are only fine if they're subtle and not in your face about it?

Hmmmm...... It's almost like you are gonna bitch either ways.

Because it's a problem. It's like diversity quotas in certain companies, who will not hire someone because of the color of his skin, since they need more people of X skin color to fulfill diversity quotas, even if the latter is less competent and deserving than the former.

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>B) It's an Eastern game (It's okay when Japan does it)

Why would this matter if the only reason for calling it forced be because the characters are black? Why would Sup Forums care about where the game was made if they hated non-white characters in games altogether? You claim that people hate all non-white characters in games then prove yourself wrong immediately afterwards.

Maybe it's not just the fact that non-white characters exist in games. Maybe it has something to do with the trend of using them as a tool for virtue signaling to prove how progressive the devs are for putting them in their game that's prevalent with western devs.

GTA is a series about unconnected storylines from various cities in america, black gangs from the 90's are fine in there. And to my knowledge no one complained about the black guy in GTA 5.
Dunno, I haven't played it yet. But from the other posts it sounds to me like the main character is just badly written, bland character.

>white devs put black guy in vidya
>black guy doesnt talk black, doesnt act any different from white characters like a real life one would
whats the point of adding them in if they are completely white in personality? what value is added?

>criminal statstics proof the connection between rising numbers of migrants and rising number of criminality
> hurr you polfag

How does brown dick tastes like?

Exactly. Some user in the other thread was rightly talking about how Mortal Kombat 2 was released with Jax and Sonya being partners together.

>BLACKED
>WHAT THE HELL? WHEN DID THEY TURN INTO SJWS?

Is this nigger for real?

>all this generic anime shit

Walking Dead was right before GG/Fappening. Influx of nu/pol/ happened shortly after

If it was never created before and was announced today I guarantee all threads about it would be shitposted to death

>muh Sup Forums

The problem isn't diversity itself but the fact that game companies start hiring based on diversity quotas and solely focus on diversity when making their game which results in a final product that is full of bugs, has terrible gameplay and only ends up being a really shitty movie with one dimensional characters

Personality isn't defined by race.

Not really right before. GG/Fappening was in August 2014. The first season of Telltale's Walking Dead was in 2012.
Time flies by so fast.

Let's think about the argument.
Why do black people and white apologists(SJWs) care about black representation in video games? It's simple. They are uneducated.

Once you realise that "being black" is a result of melanin adaptation in evolution to resist sun ray damage in the hot african sun and the culture is a result of repeated tribal concepts that got filtered through slavery into a manifestation of bestial behavior of disruption, attention seeking and resistance of law-abiding behavior.

The white man will always be their boogey man. The white man is the source of all their problems instead of accepting that their problems are a failure to adapt into modern society.

There are black men and women who have adapted into modern society. They realize that their skin color is not a determining factor in their identity. These people deserve to be reflected in video games because they are participating in our society.

All the blacks who do not actively participate in our society do not influence game devs. But because of "forced inclusion" they feel it will maintain or improve sales. So they pander to liberal masses. These characters are mock-up stereotypes of black culture or lifeless stones because the devs don't know how to make characters that represent them. So they use movies and rap videos to represent them. That's why there are so many "mad black woman with afro" characters.

Wrong. Because demo actually has a character and therefore is a good addition into the game.

There's nothing wrong with diversity in games. I'm perfectly fine with playing a black, trans, midget in a wheelchair. It's just that people tout diversity with a holier-than-thou attitude and think it needs to be the leading edge in video games. I don't project myself into video games because they're just a hobby for me, but I understand some people do that. I'm okay with having games with characters that are black, female, or even both. When a developer makes it such a big fucking deal though it usually means the gameplay is not that great. I could be wrong, but its just a pattern I've noticed. People just need to get their head out of their ass and realize the individual is more than skin deep. If developers wanted characters that were amazing then they would write the character first then slap the outside of the character on last.

Learn to read dude.

He is saying that flamboyance = gay these days.

And that gay has to also = flamboyant.

And both are bad.

You could have two characters, one fairly flamboyant Errol Flynn type, but he straight, and his mate be like some sullen dude be gay. That'd be good.
Except that just can't happen these days cos the flamboyant guy would be gay, since they own the sole rights to flamboyance.

And the gay guy would be flamboyant, cos all fags are fairies.

Therefore, both characters would just end up the same.
Until one was replaced by a loud black lady with an afro, that is!

Nothing at all. FORCED DIVERSITY is the issue, not diversity itself.

Do you have any proof that Sup Forums would react that way to those specific characters, if revealed today?

You're delusional and/or dishonest. There absolutely would be thousands of "WE" threads when the very second he was announced, before anyone even had a chance to actually judge his character or play the game.

>if
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Imagine being so paranoid about your made-up bogeyman that you had to invent imaginary situations to whine about.

Oh wait you don't need to imagine they're right here.

Nope. People were still WEposting when black people showed up in completely fictional settings like Beyond Good and Evil or Dishonored 2. How do you determine “shoehorning” in a completely fictional setting? The devs can include whoever they want

>made-up boogeyman
It's not a boogeyman if it's real, fag.

You know as well as I do that it's impossible to travel between alternate dimensions and bring proof back. It's true, though, and you know it.

When a western game with a black person releases post 2014 and it doesn't have Sup Forumstard shitposting, I'll drop my hypothesis.

Unfortunately, that will never happen because I'm right.

Ring-a-ding, user. The issue isn't with diversity itself, it's the attitude surrounding it.

>So, what, is your solution to only have white characters in video games?
Maybe developers should work on writing a 'good' character first before trying to write a 'black' character who's probably going to end up being shit anyway because they never learned to write a 'good' character in the first place.

>Even if the black character is just a normal character, everyone bitches regardless.
Games like Dishonored and Prototype didn't get nearly as much shit as games from notably progressive studios like Naughty Dog or Ubisoft.