>lots of broken or unplayable talent specs (good luck trying to be anything but a healer if you're a paladin, druid, or shaman) >shitty old polygon model graphics and awful draw distance >only 2 item drops per boss >hunters and warlocks have to use ammo and soulshards and lose a whole bag slot >no qt blood elf / draeneis >no looking for group / dungeon finder system or summoning stone, finding a group is a huge pain in the ass and time sink >only three battlegrounds >no arena >no mage tables - mages have to make 5000 stacks of water every raid >buffs require reagents and some don't even last for 60 minutes >no dual spec >no guild bank >no aoe looting >poor mail system (have fun mailing one item at a time) >lack of flight masters and graveyards >no cross realm anything (prepare to wait hours for BG queues) >auction houses suck and may not even be fucking linked together
because not everyone is a fucking baby with shit taste like you op
Christopher Turner
raising my pet and going off into areas just to unlock skills
Dylan Phillips
>no qt blood elf / draeneis good
Sebastian Davis
50% of those issues were solved in 1.x patches.
Ryder Flores
Because you're a shitposter. You also hate video games, '00 baby.
Joshua Peterson
i want this but its the bannerlord of mmos never ever coming out
Parker Morgan
you're nitpicking a bunch of small irritations and asking why people like the overall product any game has things wrong with it. vanilla was good because of what it got right, not what it got wrong.
Nathan Phillips
>small irritations half of the classes are imbalanced
Samuel Gutierrez
yeah that's by far the biggest problem and it's a major flaw, but the reason i like the game isn't because classes are unbalanced, i like it for other reasons
Lucas Turner
Vanilla wow was never about being good game design it was all about feeling the most like a real adventure.
Juan Stewart
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Ryan Gonzalez
you mean blizzard just trolled people with a cinematic reveal?
Ryder Barnes
>no transmog I can stand everything you mentioned, but FUCK looking like an inbred retard to be 2bh w/ u
Caleb Jones
>Remind me again why people want this shit? Nostalgia. They were 12 and it was their first MMO.
Parker Nelson
Will it recapture the spirit and feeling of adventure and roleplaying that made the game so fresh and alive back then bros? Or will it just be a soulless nostalgia trip infested by cancerous 2018 babby gamers?
Jose Davis
>implying a shadowpriest is viable
Gavin Torres
>not bringing exactly one#1# spriest to be the bitchboy of your locks Same for the nightfallbot.
Jack Hill
>never married a child
Julian Smith
The game was good because of the community, and because it was all new.
I thank Nostalrius for, ironically, curing me of wanting to play this. Everyone was just using levelling guides, everyone min-maxed to hell and back and everything was known, and you can never please everyone with the fucking patch you choose. So nah.
Daniel Gutierrez
I tried playing on a 1x vanilla private server and general chat was constantly spammed with Sup Forums memes. its gonna feel very different.
Henry Jackson
Won't we see less of that because profanity / racism etc. is banned? Genuinely asking as I haven't played since like 2008
Camden Anderson
Because not everyone started playing in Mists of Pandaria, you big fat babby.
Anthony Nelson
So i can play the best version of WoW without fags like you ruining it.
Tyler Mitchell
Why do people care about this anyway? Right now you either play whatever at Heroic and below, or minmax the 2/3 best specs for Mythic. If you only LFR in Legion, chances are you are not making it to lvl 60 in clasic. Just shut your trap.
Jordan Phillips
I mean, there's probably Blizzard rules there, but you're still going to have that same crowd (dumb kids who like Sup Forums and Twitch garbage memes) so you're still interacting with that. It's not the same people.
Jeremiah James
all of these things just add value and worth to the experience, its not fun if i can just log on for an hour a week and get a whole bunch of epics while playing on auto pilot
you know how many people had hand of rag on my server when i played vanilla? like 3 so when someone walked into sw with that equipped everyone crowded around and inspected that shit
James Collins
>Classic=Vanilla 1.0 >Most people agree "Classic ended with litch king and the revamp of the world in cata >More over most of those issues ended in TBC >Most of the big things where fixed in the extended vanilla patches like AH link and Stones.
Jayden Martinez
>Right now you either play whatever at Heroic and below, or minmax the 2/3 best specs for Mythic. >If you only LFR in Legion, chances are you are not making it to lvl 60 in clasic. fucking lol
Unless you only played vanilla for a few months I assure you there were Sulfurases everywhere
Noah White
The thunderfury turned one of my bros in a giant attention whore tho.
Gavin Lee
Yeah but there has to be downsides too right?
Cooper Martinez
>rapeface dwarves >hunters and warlocks have to use ammo and soulshards >no blood elf / nu-draeneis >old AV >no arena >no cross realm anything Damn, that's a lot of pros mixed with your cons.
Owen Jenkins
Do you think their gonna fix bugs and glitches like Windfury effects or Hunter Pet Attack Speeds, and Hidden Abilities?
Nicholas Flores
I think they'll drop the ball, listening to these idiots adding a lot of "QoL" stuff and "fixing" things that weren't broken.
Liam Murphy
The Hunter pets are because they are not working as intend.
John Thompson
Yeah, lets bully the worst DPS.
Nathaniel Morris
why do i feel like blizzard made this pic
Asher Lewis
Are you a fucking idiot? Bears only have attack speed of what 2secs? Broken Tusk has 1sec Everything else has 1.50sec Not to mention that one Scorpid that has the hidden venom ability that if you use it gets you banned.
Dominic Morris
>shitty old polygon model graphic Removing pic related was a fucking crime, now every faces look the same.
Lincoln Harris
>be WoD but still on a pandaria account >walk to hollowed core as a level 90 >literally like walking through a theme park >WoW and its scaling ensures I won't die >walk up to Ragnaros talking shit >slap his shit >pick up his loot that is practically worthless
another achievement down
Jason Stewart
>Bears only have attack speed of what 2secs? >Everything else has 1.50sec Working as intended.
>Broken Tusk has 1sec Broken Tooth* camp him, retard.
>Not to mention that one Scorpid that has the hidden venom ability that if you use it gets you banned. That dind't happened during vanilla.
>Are you a fucking idiot? Seems you are.
Evan Diaz
>Getting this buttblasted Go back retail then.
Dominic Foster
INTREST YA INNA PYNT?
Anthony Howard
>be wrong >get told >"y-you mad!" Holy shit, looks like you are retarded for real.
Colton Peterson
>DONT NERF (Buff) MY PETS >I NEED PETS TO DPS Lmao just like all Huntards, i bet your that guy who needs Shadowfang Blade for ''melee.''
Landon Myers
WATCH YER BACK
Jeremiah Jenkins
Why do you think I play hunter? Guess I couldn't expect reading comprehension from a retard.
Juan Hughes
can confirm, am one who made it. am Blizzard™.
Jacob Murphy
>soulshards and lose a whole bag slot if only that much. I had to have half my bags full of soulstones at the start of a raid and still had to take a hit to my dps to bump in my soul drain in combat
Liam Thomas
>DONT TALK BAD ABOUT HUNTARDS >I'M NOT HUNTARD I PLAY WARRIOR AND MAGE Lmao every fucking time. I just hope i wont share the realm with Huntard like you.
Nicholas Moore
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Michael Diaz
>"you mad" 2 times in a row Guess you are this retarded.
I don't even care about hunters, you double retard. I just pointed that your knowledge about vanilla is 100% second hand, like every "veteran" on these threads.
inB4 "you mad" for a 3rd time.
Chase Thomas
Got the itch to play vanilla, gonna log onto KRONOS what am I in for??
Gavin Stewart
this is what people want by the way, its been over a decade.. people can faceroll old ass content with ret paladins, balance/feral druids, enh/ele shamans etc.
Robert Torres
Criticizes lack of asian buildings, only 1 line on the blizzard side that's a bad thing, and I think most of all the unusual focus on family.
Jose Allen
dead buggy server
Oliver Gonzalez
are there any good (less buggy, populated) servers?
Sebastian Hernandez
Project Ascension.
Aiden Cruz
light's hope was pretty good for the short while i played there. but then classic was announced and i decided i'll wait for that.
Adam Lewis
>It's ok to fix Windfury effects in to 2-5 hits
>It's not ok to fix Bear and Broken Tooth speeds in to normal 1.50
>YOU FUCKING DOUBLE RETARD HUNTERS SUFFERING THEY ARE WORST CLASS IN THE GAME WE NEED EVERY BUFF AND ADVANTAGE WE NEED FUCK WARRIORS AND SHAMAN HUNTER FOR LIFES!!!!
Holy shit like pottery.
Henry Turner
Flight paths didn’t “auto connect” and you had to land and speak to at every flight master along way.
Brayden Barnes
Because it's actually an MMO. You go out into the world, meet people and do shit together. Honestly I'm playing a private server and it's the most fun I've had with an MMO since, well, actual retail classic.
I would rather companies just look at why there's such an enormous demand for vanilla when making new games instead of mindlessly copying WoW and FFXIV's retarded town queue ERP endgame bullshit.
Nicholas Sullivan
>fulfilling an "inB4" ebin
Easton Hernandez
Nighthaven surprisingly isnt that bad and they plan on releasing TBC
Joshua Rogers
gOOD LUCK AT PLAYING WITH FRIENDS AND KEEPING YOUR LEVELS MATCHED THO
Ayden Cox
vanilla had nonstop flight paths though i've played since battlegrounds patch and don't remember landing between flights
Liam Ross
Who are some famous guys from your servers, fellas that have/had a rep for one action or another in your community? Mine was NIJay.
Back in Wrath/Cata, there was this Human Priest named NIJay on Moon Guard that destroyed the economy by buying Chinese Gold, buying nearly everything on the AH, then selling it back for about x10 the cost. It took a while before he got BTFO'd.
Christopher Rodriguez
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Brandon Kelly
i was on Llane in vanilla and there was this 19 orc shaman twink in every wsg his name was Valem there was also an ally name Orckiller and he was the richest person on the server
and you had the usual chat trolls and the high ranked players
Kevin Hall
How can retail players be mad that an option to play vanilla on a Blizzard-hosted server exists for people who want to play vanilla? I quit just before Antorus came out and people in my guild who never even played it were absolutely seething.
Hudson Powell
>cries about vanilla >posts TBC image ???
Aaron King
>How can retail players be mad that an option to play vanilla on a Blizzard-hosted server exists for people who want to play vanilla? They are? Guess they hate fun, that would explain why they play retail.
Elijah Hall
that guy is wrong it didn't land, BUT you needed to unlock all the points between A and B to use that route, current retail you only need A and B discovered
FUN FACT: if you logged out while flying, and logged back in you would get dropped in the next "stop" right now there's a button for that functionality, but I assume it only work on the next "discovered" stop on the route
Hudson Butler
I bet your one of those Huntards that is 50lvl when other people are raiding Blackwing Lair.
But hey at least you can max their DPS with 1 sec attack speed pet!!
HUNTARDS FTW!!!!
Jack Rogers
am i the only person who thinks there is room for both retail and classic?
that being said, I think vanilla's charm will wear off fairly quickly and a small loyal community is all that's going to stay
Leo Adams
not sure personally i think WoW Classic is going to be plagued with crybabies wanting "QoL improvements and balance" that will eventually turn the game into something completely different I might still play it just to see what an official vanilla server is like though
but some retail players might get upset if devs have to spread themselves out across classic and new WoW expansions
Logan Sanders
Blizzard changed their games in fundamental games to where the newest xpacs aren't even the same game anymore.
Older players don't like what's been done to the lore and don't like that they've made every class the same.
Aaron Barnes
You hiit the nails on the head.
Isaac Green
Yeah retail is so badass and has better graphics, races, lore, leveling and pretty much everything only no life nerds play classic.
Charles Jackson
nigga its not like vanilla respected wc3 lore
Ethan Gutierrez
so, youre all going to sub again for WoW C?
Wyatt Harris
Because they can't play it. It's not so much that vanilla was superior, it's more that people who want to play it can't play it currently. It's like people who want to play shut down MMO's, the MMO itself probably wasn't very good, but people want to play it.
Jose Myers
Ideally WoW classic should be left alone (except for bugfixes and other unintended things) Blizz might want to change how soon or not content patches get released but other than that have it just stop at shadow of the necropolis patch.
If Blizz decides to re-release TBC and WotLK i'd rather they revamp questing and lore in those zones in retail so that they can be revisited and/or not a pain to level through
Evan Hernandez
Most people loved TBC and is lore raping as fuck.
Grayson Jenkins
WoW was steadily moving away from WC3 lore in an attempt to make content either neutral for both factions or add shit for content. People who thought that the lore would remain in-tact in an MMO were fools.
>fags complaining about nu-lore and how "muh wow lore is ruined now :(" >completely ignore TBC >will even go as far as saying it's "the best" expansion every time every fucking time every god damn mother fucking time
Michael Russell
I remember being excited about the new alliance race thinking it was going to be something like Naga. Then we got Draenei and I was really confused. The BC hole went deep and that's when the lore rape started. That's when the whole Eredar shit started and demons became less interesting because it's just an alien race that was corrupted.
William Young
I was really hoping a quality vanilla would pop up before Classic but Crestfall basically said they no longer set deadlines (now actually corecraft 2.0) and Everyst is as dead as a doornail. Nighthaven and Light's Hope is a corrupt overcrowded chinese duopoly.
Maybe Kronos 3 will be okay?
Ian Lewis
They are huge faggots, humongous faggots, the kind of fags who love goat-women with horse penises. Yes, I'm still mad about the Draenei retcon.
Never 5get Akama.
Matthew Sanders
Why do the Draenei look so nice? Why couldn't we have gotten the Draenei as they looked in WC3, and kept the Eredar as the Demon forces?
Juan Lee
>Broken or unplayable talent specs Nice, just the way I like them >Shitty old polygon model graphics and awful draw distance Cool something I can run at 60fps >Only 2 item drops per boss I'll actually have to run content more than once >Hunters and warlocks have to use ammo and soulshards and lose a whole bag slot Don't play them if you don't want to be immersed, I suppose >no ayylmao's That's a bad thing? >No LFG Summoning stones were added in vanilla, dungeon finder is part of what ruins the ability to meet any cool dudes in Nuwow >Only three battlegrounds No more shitty battlegrounds, what a tragedy >No arena I can't speak for arena since I've never played it but it really doesn't seem very fun >No mage tables Gives them something to do other than spam frostbolt >buffs require reagents Again, immersion and reason to grind for stuff >No dual spec Pick something and stick with it or pay the gold cost to switch >No guild bank Just trade stuff with guild members? >No AOE looting You don't need AOE looting when you're killing mobs one at a time >Poor mail system I have to agree that single slot mailing is annoying but mail isn't a huge part of the game anyways >Lack of flight masters and graveyards You have to explore and are actually punished for dying. >No cross realm anything Fine by me, I can play with the same people from my realm and possibly meet some nice ones >Auction houses suck and may not even be linked together Magical item teleportation sucks
I played classic to draenor and it has steadily gotten worse in my opinion
Caleb Roberts
>third time's the charm
Caleb Torres
Because nobody wants to play the ugly races and it's bullshit.
Joseph Reed
>No one wants to play the ugly races >Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, and Zombies made up the original Horde PRE-TBC
Come again?
Parker James
Guess who makes up the majority of the horde now?
Austin Howard
Sex sells and it was a poor excuse to include "sexy" races.
Levi Morales
Gay Elves, Midget Orcs that converted to Judaism, and fat hairy Chinamen.
Charles Richardson
I can't wait to buy leveling boosts and chinese gold while you retards spend 400+ hours to hit 60 and make 1000g