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Best Final Fantasy coming to PC.

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>XII
>best final fantasy

About damn time
Shame I don't care anymore

XII is now bad.

it was always bad

ABOUT FUCKING TIMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Easily the best gameplay the series has seen, most addictive sidequests and loot collection. Yes, best Final Fantasy is now coming to PC.

>Square Enix spitting on Matsuno's grave
>Best Final Fantasy
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bait

>tfw no good FF5 remake

>2018
>people still don't admit that XII is the best FF
lmao go back to VII cucks

But user XV has already been announced.

but the story, music and characters are boring

>it was always bad, now

I get it, retard

Explain why it's bait.

It's only lacking a better story (and the gorgeous pre-rendered environments of FFIX). Other than that, it's the best FF ever made. And that was BEFORE the Zodiac Job system was implemented.

AHAHAHAHA

I thought the music was great. The characters were great too, it simply had a short cast when compared to other Final Fantasy games (which makes it easier for good characters to pop up).

Only Vaan and Penelo are truly boring. The story was good (not like any FF had a great story to be honest).

>all the new games
>No tactics

Why???

FUCKING
YESSS

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU NIGGERS DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW EXCITED I AM FOR THIS.
I WAS LITERALLY GONNA BUY A PS4 JUST TO PLAY IT BUT I ALREADY PLAYED THE ORIGINAL FOR FUCKING 750 HOURS AND DIDNT WANT TO DROP A BUNCH OF MONEY ON A SHIT TIER CONSOLE.
MY PATIENCE HAS BEEN REWARDED THANK YOU JESUS, I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT
FFXII IS THE GREATEST FINAL FANTASY GAME OF ALL TIME

But Zodiac Age is crap, just emulate it

b-b-b-but HE DOESN'T WEAR A SHIRT

Do they not know how much people sperg over Denuvo? And PC users can already play a flawless emulated version of the original Zodiac.

So did they fuck up the faces like with FFXHD or were they left intact? Also how bad is the audio compression for voice acting?

FUCKING FINA-
Ok that's a no then I guess. Thanks SE, you're saving me money.

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NEVER EVER THEY SAID

PS4 CU_CKS BTFO

>And PC users can already play a flawless emulated version of the original Zodiac.
You do not know what "flawless" means if you think bugged interface graphics and incomplete translation are "flawless".

You're overestimating how much most people care.

Can't wait to pirate

what is that and why should i care

the gang's all here

>February
wtf. hell yes.

Yeah I think this was a mistake. I have no intention of ever buying FF12 but I would have pirated it and advertised all the mods that fix it.

I'll still pirate it, but it'll be too late for free shillings.

The faces aren't fucked up but the post processing is, probably mods will fix that though. The audio compression wasn't changed but they adjusted it, it sounds a bit louder now.

>if you think bugged interface graphics
What? And it is 99.99999999999999999% translated.

No, they straight up improved the game this time. Rather than outsourcing it to some chinks to do, Square themselves worked on it. It has some excellent changes, the biggest one being the removal of the spell queue.
People saying
>J-j-just emulate the IZJS are fucking retards considering that version still has the spell queue which fucks over magic users.

It's not bait, it's just not the best Final Fantasy. Of course it's all relative, but there are plenty of better choices.
XII is conceptually the best FF, because it was built on artists and designers with great concepts. The final product is absolue trash, and the drama that went on during production makes me sick to my stomach.

Square and Enix died with Square-Enix. They accidentally produce something half decent once in awhile (Human Revolutiob), but they'll always take unexpected success and completely shit on it (Mankind Divided) because SE's executive branch has ties to the Yakuza and are comprised of short Japanese men with penis envy.

tl;dr It's not very engaging. It starts slow with a pointless character, and doesn't really go anywhere from that and eventually joins every other generic JRPG with it's final act. The gameplay is fine, but it doesn't carry the game. Once you play it once and realize the plot and character arcs are trash there is really no point in replaying it, Zodiac or otherwise.

AAAAAAAAAA YAMERO!!!

>50 gb
Why they do this? fucking 4k fags ruining it for everyone

>god this fucking companies never remaster my favorite games, i wonder why
>*pirates games*

Wow, I thought this already came out ages ago. Was just thinking about buying it.

You're a retard. The gameplay most certainly does carry the game.

Well no shit it's coming to PC.
Have you not been paying attention these last 5 years when SE was porting everything to steam?

this

I've beaten XII across multiple versions 8 times to 100% at this point, and let me tell you, that fucking spell queue in certain areas made me eventually just fucking drop spellcasting entirely and use fucking potions and shit instead, no queue is going to be a game changer in so many ways to how I play this game.
>you will always remember your first time in an all caster group going into Penumbra with 50 fucking teleporting rape horses gangbanging you with spells making the queue LITERALLY over a minute long

>No, they straight up improved the game this time.
Pros
>character shadows
>remastered OST
>alleged CD quality original OST
>no spell queue

Cons:
>no Sky Pirate's Den
>No esper summoning screen
>no save screen
>inferior graphics(bloom and blur and more blur)
>dramatically easier gameplay(4x speed and dual jobs)
>no new content
>cutscene letterbox
>cropped FMVs
>ugly font
>voices haven't been improved
>new and improved input lag

Initially sky pirate's den was gone but they patched it back. But still, it's not an objective improvement.

I've never had a problem with any denuvo game

>Adds something like denuvo
>Implying they don't deserve it

The original Zodiac doesn't grant you a second class for each character.

redpill me on denuvo

Only literal retards would think that any SE game won't eventually make it to PC. I'd be willing to bet that even Kingdom Hearts will come to PC sometime down the road.

>what is Denuvo
wait really

I still can’t believe how bad they butchered 5 and 6. Holy FUCK those sprites. Imagine if they made remakes of those games with Octopath’s engine.

>What? And it is 99.99999999999999999% translated.
If you increase the game's resolution to modern standards (like 1080p) the interface beings to show artifacts because of how rendering works (or something like it). The interface is also of very low resolution and it stands out like a sore thumb, and either appears blurry or pixelated.

FFXII:IZJS is a game to be played windowed at its original resolution, to be honest. It just doesn't look good in fullscreen.

>XII is conceptually the best FF, because it was built on artists and designers with great concepts. The final product is absolue trash
I simply have to disagree.

>tl;dr It's not very engaging. It starts slow with a pointless character, and doesn't really go anywhere from that and eventually joins every other generic JRPG with it's final act. The gameplay is fine, but it doesn't carry the game. Once you play it once and realize the plot and character arcs are trash there is really no point in replaying it, Zodiac or otherwise.
And here's why we disagree.

I don't treat XII as a JRPG where story means everything and gameplay is secondary. I treat it like a wRPG, where story means nothing and gameplay is everything. And FFXII had addictive, engaging gameplay, with many cool sidequests that meant level progression and equipment gathering mattered.

Unlike, say, FFVII's Weapons, which were easily defeated through legitimate in-game tactics.

My problems with FFXII's combat are the spell queue (which Zodiac Age seems to have thankfully fixed) and the inability to reposition your party. Knights of the Old Republic came out three years earlier and even it had basic shit like hold position. It's especially annoying since there are plenty of instances where positioning is important.

Denuvo. A severely intrusive DRM that factually makes games run worse on your computer.

That is all.

>Rather than outsourcing it to some chinks to do, Square themselves worked on it.
This is also false. The same people who did FFX HD worked on this.

That's cool, but I want a Vita version.

Be objective.

There's a save editor that does even more.

>Rather than outsourcing it to some chinks to do, Square themselves worked on
WRONG

>you will always remember your first time in an all caster group going into Penumbra with 50 fucking teleporting rape horses gangbanging you with spells making the queue LITERALLY over a minute long
You're damn right I remember that.
>Trying to open a door
>Have to sit and wait for like 8 enemies to cast darkra
>Go into the red
>Healer queues up curaja
God fucking damn it just let me through the fucking door

Nice try faggot.
My Ps4 copy of FFXII doesn't have a Only on Playstation moniker on it.

BRs and Russians say it makes the game run worse based off of some early shitty ubisoft game releases to try to guilt trip devs into not using it so that the games are easier to steal.

>Initially sky pirate's den was gone but they patched it back. But still, it's not an objective improvement.
It's true.

I for one do not like the textures run through awful filters (you didn't mention this). I can deal with low res textures just like I deal with low res textures while playing many other, INFERIOR looking games (like The Witcher).

But filtered textures? That gets on my nerves.

>12
>Best Final Fantasy
?????

This is the first time a game I like has denuvo on it. Do I break my rule and buy it or pirate it?

What the fuck are you talking about? The interface is fine and at least it was stylized unlike the remake which looks terrible and oversharpened. It looks great at high resolution too.

they need to port Final Fantasy Origins & Tactics to Steam and pretty much all the FFs will be available in one place

I find it pretty cool that Square Enix is releasing all Final Fantasy games on PC.

How does it break your rule if you don't like any games that have Denuvo anyway

You're right, not flawless, but I mean the game runs extremely well all things considered.

Can someone tell me exactly what happened with the development of this game? I've heard so many convicting comments on it, I don't know what to believe.

Some people say se higher ups butchered it and killed matsuno's drive while others say it was going the direction it ended up in from the beginning and he only stepped down due to sickness

>You're a retard
At least I don't like this movie
>The gameplay does carry the game
To each his own, beyond Hunts I wasn't really into it. I like FFIII, Jobs, License Board, and Gambits. I find myself often thinking about other games "Damn I wish this had Gambits".
But I mean after I got the Gambits down it was pretty much just unlock License' to equip yer better numbers, like every JRPG. The gameplay never really changes or advances in any different way than the aforementioned, and the story/characters are ass.
So why would I even play XII over III?
Granted Zodiac Job System definitely allows you to throw the License Board up in the air, and is easily superior to the NA release, it just isn't worth it to me for how bad the story is, even for the Hunts.

>I for one do not like the textures run through awful filters (you didn't mention this)
Because people will argue like spergs if I did. There's also an issue of the SSAO being buggy and very poorly implemented but people don't understand these things.

I agree with you.

Aw COME ON... I just bought the shitty PS4 version a few months ago. This ALWAYS happens. Announce the PC version earlier and I'll just wait for that instead of getting that PS4 garbage with 8 years of input lag and 3 decades of loading times.

I have Berseria and Nier on Steam and had 0 problems due to Denuvo.

FFT with mod tools would be so good. SE would get in the good books of so many fans doing something like that.

Why are you all assuming this will have the same graphics settings as the console version does?

There isn't a single element in any Final Fantasy XIII game that bests any other element from any other Final Fantasy game.
Go lick your plank of woods armpits elsewhere.

>The gameplay most certainly does carry the game.
Yeah, to the garbage bin.

I don't know if they fixed anything with Zodiac, but the gameplay is one of the prime reason the original game was a total failure.

Oh yeah, sure. I actually began a IZJS playthrough once, I have no idea why I stopped (didn't get far, though... it was probably just a "test run").

Have you emulated the game and played with increased in-game resolution?

All final fantasy games a trash but 12 is the least trash because of the combat and rpg systems
still trash though

good goy. did you enjoy your beta test?

Just FFs 1 and 2 to go.

>Have you emulated the game and played with increased in-game resolution?
Yes I've been posting screenshots of it.

And Tactics series if you count spinoffs.

>Plot is Star wars rip off
>Gameplay is dissidia rip off
Eh... At Least XIII has Lightning Returns (single player without party team).

The only good aspects of FFXII are its dialogue and voice acting which are fucking great. Everything else about it is garbage.

I say that XIII trilogy has the best soundtrack.

>Have you emulated the game and played with increased in-game resolution?
Yes I've been posting screenshots of it.

Matsuno left the team halfway through development allegedly because of an illness. People speculate that Square-Enix was interfering so much that it was stressing him out, e.g. Basch was originally the main character but was replaced with Vaan because of target demographics. The replacement director made due but the game is clearly unfinished in many respects. Story was the hardest hit in my opinion.

FF12 has the best gameplay and Viera.

A better Star Wars rip off then Nu Wars at least

>Have you emulated the game and played with increased in-game resolution?
I have and don't know what you're talking about.

I'm surprised to see it so early.
I expected the standard 1-year console exclusivity which would put the release somewhere around July/August

Maybe its time to upgrade from your 2006 setup, pablo

Except you haven't been posting screenshots of the interface. It looks like pic related.

Look at the blurry interface and other HUD elements. IIRC, making them "sharp" through an emulator setting made them display artifacts as well.

glad i waited and didnt get the ps4 version. Still gonna wait more until denuvo is cracked tho

This.

But even bad Final Fantasy games are great by the standards of most modern JRPGs.

>paying for cashgrab remasters
As long you paid for the PS2 version, everything is okay.

It's corporate Japan, they don't actually listen to anybody.

>>no Sky Pirate's Den
Wrong.