Xenoblade 2

>Xenoblade 1: Hype as fuck story pushes me to get through a game with simply okay combat
>Xenoblade 2: Hype as fuck combat pushes me through a game with a simply okay story

What did they mean by this?

Story is 8/10 tho.

poppi

I've often said to people that Rex suffers from the opposite problem of "chosen one syndrome" where nothing about his character is truly relevant to anything.

Only after they reveal all the parallel universe stuff

2's story was decent, but the characters really carried it.

1 had shitters like Sharla that amounted to nothing more than being Reyn's personal cocksleeve.

But 1 kept the focus where it needed to be. IT helped that it had actual villains who felt good to fight.

>that guard
kek

Anyone could've worked as the Aegises driver, but the world probably would've been doomed. It would have taken somebody with Rex's ideals and mindset to save the world, and it's pretty clear that in Alrest, Rex is one in a million.

Combat was awful though

Couldn’t agree more

The best thing about Sharla was Gadolt

>surely they learned their lesson and the combat will be less pressing b when it appears on screen
>they double down on it
Not to mention that endgame battles are all 80% chain attack and orb exploitation to get anywhere which is boring.
Why did they top loaded the combat mechanics so much, it was fine early to mid game where you were just figuring out fun combos.

>Xenoblade 2
>hype as fuck combat
wat? combat is not even good.

checking out dat fat metal butt

can you really blame him

You're not allowed to criticize this game, OP.

It felt weird just how quick after meeting Reyn did Sharla start using him as a substitute for Gadolt. To the point Reyn even points it out.

But it felt like it was for the wrong reasons. Rex is a blind optimist in a world full of cynics, but usually stories like this have the MC learn to accept a little bit of cynicism so that they can frame their optimism properly.

>Low battery
>Skype

Faggot detected

>tfw I thought through weird shenanigans the dad's body that was for some reason washed up away farther from him and his mom was going to be Addam
That whole backstory for Rex was weird it's like they highlighted certain details and it made absolutely no difference in the end.

He is already realistic, that's the point. Rex isn't naive, he's like Vash the Stampede in that he's willing to make sacrifices to hold up his ideals, except Alrest doesn't require him to make constant massive sacrifices. It's not as bleak as Trigun is.

This. Also the fact that you wanted to know why everyone feared Pyra's existence. The problem I had with 1 was that you had god's sword and visions. Hard to feel attach to someone like sharla that has no real reason to be with you. Same with Melia and Riki to a degree.
For 2 you have Morag and Zeke which are given charge to help Rex, Tora looks up to him as a driver, and Nia is probably the one that you could cut if it wouldn't ruin the story later.

I'll agree to this as well. Prison Island Metal Face and Mechonis Core were boss fights that were long overdue. Bionis Slash X

Instead, in this game, when confronted with cynicism, Rex runs away screaming like an autist. Shame. And here I thought he actually grew as a person for a moment.

Xenoblade 2's third act>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xenoblade 1's third act

>Rex isn't naive
You're kidding, right? He's a 15 year old teen that has the mentality of a grade schooler playing hero.

why is 2 such a downgrade from X

>"hype as fuck"
>it takes 2 hours to kill a fucking generic rabbit enemy

kys

>implying that that's not an important role

He's realistic as a child, but I've never really liked truly childish characters.

I was going to reference this but you beat me to it

You're doing it wrong.

But wasn't that the point of what Vandham told him? Rex kept trying to stay out of the worlds problems, to keep up his outlook. He was only looking out for himself with that line of thinking. He wanted to help the world, while being an outsider. It took him getting his mentor killed and really thinking about what he said, that he couldn't just ignore all the pain and sadness of the world to really be able to connect with Jin at all. Otherwise he would have just blindly put him in the 'This guy is bad, he doesn't deserve to put out his side of the story'

What the fuck was that front-flip attack? How did he do that with Mythra?

2's story is better than 1 though, they actually gave a shit about worldbuilding/lore and the game doesn't shit itself at the end

the characters did fuck-all in xenoblade 2. what the fuck is morag doing there? zeke?

>1's 3rd act
>Literally god's minions like every other RPG
>2's 3rd Act
>Beanstalk defense robots, Torna's artificial blades, Indol warmonks, Morytha in general

Yeah I'll take 2's 3rd act. At least there was variety

I would've bought into this if the villains didn't all end up dying anyway.

Xenoblade 1's story was mediocre and the combat was awful.

Rolling Smash? It's a driver art.

when there's a hole in your life, you try to fill it

It's his fourth art nobody uses for being shit

2 was rushed in development.

switch your arts out retard, actually you're not retarded its just that the menu system in this game IS COMPLETELY FUCKING INEXCUSABLE

>2's story is better than 1
HAHAHAHAAHHA YEAH OK

That's Rolling Smash's animation. All Aegis Swords use the same arts.

I gave a reason why 2's story is better than 1 and you replied with nothing in its defense

He's right though. 1's story is overrated.

XC2 combat isn't hype most of the game though.

Having Arts charged at start of combat should have not required unlocked skills, and Arts to Arts canceling should have been either available to begin with or a lower level unlock.
And the 2 active Blade restriction until beating Ch 3 was terrible too.

Then you have to deal with RNG to get decent blades, and hope your team gets a decent set-up for driver combos.

But once you do get going it becomes very flow-charty and overall too easy. None of the superbosses are that hard either for some reason.

>And here I thought he actually grew as a person for a moment.
He never really grows that much
He becomes a better driver but other than that he's pretty much the same as he was at the beginning

Prequel story DLC bait. There's a lot of things about past events that's kind of conspicuously glossed over.

>I fight for my friends
Nia's right to harass him about being such a fucking kid at times

Open word is the only thing X has.

>they actually gave a shit about worldbuilding/lore The first game did not?
>and the game doesn't shit itself at the end
Except it did. Amalthus was a generic evil pope fight, all the "sympathetic" villains just die for you, lame final boss, and a melodramatic ending that invalidates what made it melodramatic right after.

Lol fucking retard, it's Sword Bash that's pointless garbage.

> Hard to feel attach to someone like sharla that has no real reason to be with you. Same with Melia and Riki to a degree.

Replace Melia with Reyn and I have to agree.

> Reyn was just with you because he was Shulk's bro
> Sharla merely joined to get another ticket for the cock carousel, be it Gadolt, Reyn, or otherwise
> Rikki was forced to join because his wife was a bitch and a whore

Meanwhile:
> Shulk wanted to get revenge on the fuckers who killed his girlfirend and his townspeople
> Fiora was central to the plot, being Meyneth's vessel, Shulk's girlfriend and all
> Melia fell in love with Shulk and had to avenge the death of her family & the genocide of her race
> Dunban had to avenge the death of his sister and to live up his titel as former hero of the Homs

And better combat and graphics and design.

Not only that but, Xenoblade 2's last act retroactively made Xenoblade 1's last act actually interesting.

Reyn was around to keep shulk alive. I mean he almost got eaten by a crab.

shitty pandering characters drag it down a couple points for me, and if there wasn't an option for jap dialogue it'd be even lower
besides, coming off the original being a near 10/10 even an 8 just seems like a downgrade

> Reyn was just with you because he was Shulk's bro

implying that being a good bro isn't very important to reyn

> Sharla merely joined to get another ticket for the cock carousel, be it Gadolt, Reyn, or otherwise

implying that this isn't a good reason

> Rikki was forced to join because his wife was a bitch and a whore

implying that bionis' best daddypon won't do anything for his kids

What the fuck??

This whole time I assumed the fourth Art in the bottom slot was like your auto attack passive or something. Fuck. There is so much shit I missed out on until I'm most of the way through the game.

>the first game did not
absolutely not. Homs/Nopon get 0 development and the lore surrounding the other races is minimal, even XCX with its focus outside of story has more worldbuilding and lore than 1.

>Amalthus was a generic evil pope fight
I agree, even so amalthus was more developed than every villain in xenoblade 1. Combined.

>all the "sympathetic" villains just die for you
only Mik, and that's partly because he wants revenge against amalthus, not to strictly protect you

>lame final boss
nothing to do with story

>melodramatic ending that invalidates what made it melodramatic right after.
post credits scene sucks, but so does fiora getting her body back that needed an entire side story to explain it

all the problems 2 has with its story are exacerbated in 1, with the exception that the main hero/heroine are better in 1 than 2. Everything else 2 is better

What jrpg combat isn't flowcharty at endgame?

you're a virgin, please get laid so your shit taste stops ruining good games

Less interesting IMO.
Apparently Earth just got a little screwed up instead of the entire universe being obliterated. Makes it less exciting.

>you can switch out Arts
Jesus fucking Christ. Love how they never said that you could do that

sharla is the weakest link in the entire game, and yet she still amounts to just about as interesting as the majority of the cast in 2. at least 1 had good villains that kept you wanting to move forward.

At least it properly explains how Klaus did fuck up shit with Zohar shenanigans instead of leaving you in the dark how pushing a button nukes existance and makes you a mecha god.

post teams

Why would I fall for the roastie meme when waifus give me everything a real woman can without any of the downsides?

>with the exception that the main hero/heroine are better in 1 than 2
Wrong. Fiora is okay but no better than Pyra. Shulk is shit.

Also wrong. 1 cast was dull outside of Dunban. And the enemies were underdeveloped.

>managing to destroy depth of combat while simultaneously making it complex as hell

>2's story is better than 1 though,
Top kek

I hope the hard mode gives enemies new attacks or something and isn't just stat buffs all around.

>The old Earth is actually still around, but the world is a wasteland of shambling monsters, the culprit behind the event spends millenia trying to make amends for and salvage
>The whole universe died because of the super strong power

On what planet is the latter more interesting?

>What did they mean by this?
With XC2 they didn't care about making a good story and characters they only cared about making shitty waifufag haremshit.

You seem mad, might I suggest not taking a mongolian basket-weaving forum so seriously

hard to argue that one has better graphics than the other. x has the worst looking human characters i saw that entire generation, but 2 had the most bland art style.
let's just agree that 1 had the best art direction and was only hampered by being on the Wii

I should have something similar to yours but with Finch instead of Aegaeon and KOS-MOS instead of Praxis.

they can't have sex with you, not yet anyway

shouldn't be accurate, but is

you're joking right? Pyra is shit, she's only good in the context that she's an alter ego for Mythra. If you mean Pyra/Mythra then yeah I agree. What puts her below fiora for me is that her dynamic with Rex is unrealistic. I was on board with the love story between pyra and rex but that was shattered when mythra came in, they should have aged her physical appearance down or aged up rex. The dynamic between fiora and shulk is far more believable

see

This game is ruined for me after reading a few words of the OP of that thread earlier in the catalog.
>they die
and I'm pretty sure it was a picture of Pyra and the blonde chick.

I would return my unopened Switch if I wasn't already set on playing BotW, since that's just 1 fewer game for that system now for me to play.

None of the Xenoblades are hard. Plus is can't be too hard or people will bitch.

X definitely looks better. After playing through 2 I went back to X and the difference is pretty significant.
>that spoiler
No way.

>my opinion is correct and all other opinions are WRONG
this is what v has turned into, a fucking pit of people who believe they're the last word on gaming. you can disagree with me if you want, but to say that my opinion is wrong makes you seem like an autistic narcissist

I never knew how much I wanted a Macross inspired Xeno game until right now.
Cute girls singing and dancing over your mechs coms gives you bonuses in battle.

>It's an user unironically believes XB2 is the only game in the series that has fanservice in it episode

Oh boy my favorite

Look at this fucker.

>casual filters

Lies!

Not joking. Fiora and Pyra are both bland but likeable. Shulk was an annoying cunt the entire game while Rex is just generic but not obnoxious. Mythra is annoying as well.

Ursula and Dahlia are LITERALLY desgined by a Macross artist

XC1 has better lore and world building
>the game doesn't shit itself at the end
Yeah it shits itself through most of the game instead.

Crits birb is pretty cool.

shulk was good, his lowpoint was that bullshit with mumkhar though. I understand not killing Egil but Mumkhar was an irredeemable cocksucker

ahahaha

>XC1 has better lore and world building
It certainly does not. The game barely develops the world at all.

>XC1
>Better lore and world building
I love XC1 but this is bullshit

Reminder

am i being baited or did you just accuse the game of not being waifu baiting haremshit by posting a webm of the game being waifu baiting haremshit

>XC1 has better lore and world building
you're delusional, XC1 has the weakest lore and worldbuilding in the series. Like I said, the Homs and nopon arn't developed at all and the high entia/machina have almost 0 history outside their battle with zanza. Contrast this with JUST Indol/Judicium, not even all the humans and it's easy to see why XC1 is weak in that aspect

>Yeah it shits itself through most of the game instead.
just chapter 4 compared to the entire final arc of XC1

>XC1 has better lore and world building
pfffffffhahahahahaha what.

I prefer the alien faces because the game takes place on a alien planet.

you're a bit daft aren't you