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Is this game actually good?

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Millenials general?

yes
it is a pretty barebones, but all the mechanics fit perfectly

Yes. No. I don't know, it's comfy as hell. Once I built a town filling almost an entire large map, but nowadays everyone starves before i hit 30 population. You need to hurt yourself to enjoy this game.

it might work and even be preferable on very small independant villages or community, but its efficiency decrease the higher the population.

>it might work

While i enjoyed Banished. Without mods it is incredible barebones and has no right to be above 5 bucks.

comfiest game in the whole world.

vanilla game is 6/10
colonial charter is 10/10

I dunno, the fact villagers with the fastest access to stores hoard all the resources for themselves instead of just taking what they need is kinda broken.

Unless that got fixed?

it does work for small communes but thats hardly comparable to a country

What are good mods, I've pretty much done all the game has to offer.
How is it?

Communism/socialism only works with small populations. It will never work in countries like America cause it always ends up in a fucking mess. Its why Norway can do socialism. Cause Norway only has 5 million people in the entire country. Some cities alone in North America have more than that.

>M-MY IDEALISTIC FORM OF REAL COMMUNISM HASN'T BEEN DONE YET!

>when half of the village dies of starvation over winter because the local politburo forgot to take in account the population growth when stockpilling food

What's a good start if I want to get into medieval/fantasy city builder games ? I heard Banished is pretty hard even if it doesn't look like.
Long ago I played a game like that, it sort of had a cartoony art-style and I think the population were dwarves, I can't remember its name at all but I enjoyed it.

Everyone starves the first winter because there isn't enough food

banished isn't hard at all. like any builder if you over expand or try to build too much at once you fail. with banished the 'currency' to build stuff with the amount of people you have. in your first few years you wont build much more than houses for your initial people and food gathering. then eventually you start over producing food and you expand. a common mistake people make is the scale of the game they try to build way too many houses first instead of having enough supplies first.

it has been tried numerous times, but only on primitive agrarian shitholes that weren't ready for it.

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How do you know? There are't communist villages from what I know.

>there aren't any communes

I see, that's pretty reasonable, I'll give it a try when it's cheaper.
Also, I found the game I was talking about, it was just one of the early Settlers games. I just had trouble finding it because the more recent titles don't use the cartoony art style anymore.

All three of the examples shown in that image is the result of fascist autocracies not communism.

I’m not for communism, but saying any economic system is the direct cause of death is wrong.

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do you know what a commune is?

Communism works fantastically!

...When you're dealing with a simulation where people act more like robotic drones than actual humans with individual traits, ideas, dreams and personalities.

Communism is fascism's equally retarded but inexplicably popular twin

An economic system is not the twin of a government system.

Communism does work in family units limited to maybe 3-10 people. Very early man worked in family units hunting, gathering and sharing resources. When you take this to a larger scale however it leads to 100 of millions of people dying because their isn't that innate trust amongst people because not everyones a member of you're family.

A commune isn't even a village, just a family.

a commune is bigger than a family, it may or may not be a village

The people died because of a famine, because mismanaged systems weren't able to cope with sudden widespread crop failures. However, throughout history famines have just happened and millions of people died just the same, so blaming the ruling economic model for causing it is very much a late 20th century perspective. Capitalism couldn't save the Irish after all.

Ultimately though, communism was never intended as a form of economic system for rapidly industrialising countries and its misuse to increase the power of the despots that inflicted it upon their countries hardly gives it a fair chance to show its merits (universal employment, prevention of corporate/private interference in governance). I'm not advocating for communism, but its unfortunate history has poisoned the well of socialism that is absolutely necessary now in much of the developed world to prevent a freefall in quality of life for most of the working population.

>The people died because of a famine, because mismanaged systems weren't able to cope with sudden widespread crop failures
communist partisans went around to villages stealing their fucking food

>They did that because they were commies
I don't even know what you are talking about but the tactic up until WWI was to steal food from the villages during campaigns or times of calamity. There's a whole chapter of Clausewitz book about taking food.

Nice Capitalism, hmm?

Unironic communists? In my Sup Forums?

i can't remember where i heard this but apparently, the early mormons actually use a system similar to communism and made it work.
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I gifted my dad this game a few years ago for his birthday
he has liked it and I knew he would since he used to play games like caesar 3 a fuckton as well.
he only recently realised the game has achievements, also all he doesn't use any mods

>They did that because they were commies
did I say that? soviets killed millions of their own people, intentionally, don't blame it on 'mismanaged systems'

Dude, Stalin deliberately starved Ukraine. This shit isn't up for debate, I'm a socialist and know that that shit was fucked up.

and if they not starve they won't fuck and your population goes down

>Communism works when everyone bows to an autocratic fascist who has a magical birds eye view of every industry
>It doesn't even always work because some of these Ascended Planners aren't actually very good, or have ulterior motives which means they throw inordinate numbers of people into the dangerous stone quarries and their villages crash

Nice house you have there. Pity if you were forced to move out to the woods because the floating voice in the sky demanded that we need more herbalists and you have no agency.

Is Banished really this triggering for Sup Forumsluters?

The Amish and the like do it in America.

There is a mennonite community close to my parents who live in a economic communist community and the only real level of capitalism there is the veggies they sell to outsiders to have enough American money to pay taxes and buy the small amount 2nd hand consumer goods from local yard sales.

You called them "communist partisans", retard.
>soviets killed millions of their own people
Because they lived in a magical wonderland before capitalism, right? Fucked up countries are going to be fucked up no matter the system.

That literally never happens except everytime

Yeah people should really google and read about the Holodomor, seems to be forgotten about because its overshadowed by the Purges (even though less people died in them).

But is that communism’s fault or facisisms fault?

yes, they were communist partisans, doesn't mean they did it because they were commies

From reading everything in this thread, nobodies triggered seems to be an actually good debate going on.

>overthrow the czar
>suddenly widespread famines break out

how could this have happened?

Sole authority must be in the hands of the Councils of Workers', Soldiers' and Peasants' Delegates. There must be no dual authority.

No support should be given to the Provisional Government. The whole of the people must be prepared for the complete and sole authority of the Councils of the Workers', Soldiers' and Peasants' Delegates.

Order must be strictly maintained by the Councils of Peasants' Delegates

We must at once prepare the Councils of Workers' Delegates, the Councils of Delegates of Banking Employees, and others for the taking of all such steps as are feasible and completely realizable toward the union of all banks in one single national bank, and then toward a control of the Councils of Workers' Delegates over the banks and syndicates, and then toward their nationalization, that is, their passing over into the possession of the whole people.

nice

>a government system that takes control of the economic system is not a government system

Donald. You must hand me those delegates. You must hand them now. I will not ask again, Donald. I have asked enough.

>shortage of 1 potato
>half of the village dies of hunger

That’s not what I said and that’s not what you implied.

I said an economic system is not the twin of a goverment system.

Communism =/= facisim

There are democratic communist counties just like there are fascist capitalist counties.

the game is pretty good to look at
you need the mod colonial character if you want actually technology progression because the base game doesnt give you a lot

What, did you get interrupted by the police forces of the glorious state hauling you off to a gulag?

>it might work and even be preferable on very small independant villages or community
No, it won't. It's been tried. Look up the real history behind the US Thanksgiving.

It does work with villages and shit where people NEED to share everything to survive and can make everything they need without outside help. It scales like absolute shit though, and any economic model that partially revolves around the threat of starvation is retarded.

>13% of the world's population is malnourished
>80% of the world's population is poor
>1% of the world's population owns more than half the world's wealth

c-capitalism works! i-it's f-free market!!

Then you are a fuckwit that don't know what you are talking about.
A government system is always the twin of the economic system.
Economics fuels growth stability, governance allows it to exist.
Facism and Communism is just populism customized to fit a regime.

>He thinks (((America))) is true capitalism

Sup Forums BTFO again

It does. Mostly for the 1% but there is a lot of margin for the 19% to grow. And who fucking cares about the bottom feeders anyway?

And hey, the numbers are almost the same as in socialist countries as they have to suck of the capitalist nipple just to exist.

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Well yeah.
Do you know how many "i thought this was a comfy builder not a survival simulator" threads we had in the day cause of this game?

>implying any of them did anything wrong
fucking moralfags, I bet you think the holocaust was wrong too

>communism works, it's just that real communism hasn't been tried yet in a first world country
i'm from a former commie country and i can't help but fucking laugh at teenagers who think communism is anything else than a mass killing regime.

>implying we are not heading towards communism globally anyway
Just wait. Money cant keep seeping up into mega corporations and individuals without consequences.

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