was he right?
Was he right?
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You're obsessed with Egoraptor.
Yes.
OoT is the most over-rated game in history.
Almost definitely, all the problems he outlined were fixed in BotW, but those OoT fags, ignorant of the flaws of their game refuse that BotW is better.
Yeah, but he went about it the wrong way, which he admits himself.
No but the faggot children who worship e-celebs that weren't alive when OoT was released will agree with him.
If you didn't play an older game back around when it was released you cannot judge it properly, you are playing it in the complete incorrect context. You have no idea what video game culture was like back in 1997/8, you have no idea what the jump from 2D - 3D was like, you have no idea what games were like on the cutting edge back then. You are fucking clueless and will never be able to fully appreciate older games.
There is SO MUCH.... god... damn... waiting!
What's the context of this gif?
This.
Context is very important. No game will stand as the "greatest game of all time forever". Back when this was released, OoT was outright eye-opening. It really set a high bar in the gaming industry for many years to follow.
Yes games are overall better these days. More replayablility, more shit to do, better grafiks. But not much has really made as big of an impact as this game did in it's time. I mean, what's the most popular game right now? PUBG? Derivative grindy nonsense that will be forgotten once something better comes out. OoT was a landmark and will be remembered far longer than most games currently made.
What the fuck am I watching? Is he throwing shit at his family?
that's exactly why we use the term 'aged like milk', nostalgiafag
if a game can't be enjoyed today, then it's simply not a good game anymore
But it can be enjoyed today.
Been a while since I saw his video, but I remember it being pretty nitpicky and reductive.
Yup. We already been over this.
His Megaman video was great, his Castlevania one though, was a piece of shit. I haven't seen any more wrong opinions condensed in such a short video.
No but I could respect his opinion until he showed that he was absolutely terrible at Ocarina of Time and was the cause of his own problems with the game
A ton of this. Game's always have their problems but there's also operator error. And Arin's lp showed a lot of operator error.
>His Megaman video was great
Until you actually play Megaman X and find out a lot of the stuff he said is very much exaggerated, pointless or even false.
Yes and no
If you paradigm of a great game is ALTTP, of course you will have issues with OOT, since there is a lot of changes in gameplay. When I played OOT for the first time I was in awe, but at the same time I was in rage because it wasnt feels like ALTT or Link´s Awakening.
This sequelitis have some really dumb complains that are anchored in the preference of one style over another, people maybe not remember, but OOT was really divisive at launch, in a similar way of BOTW
Games don't age
Egoraptor is never right.
He doesn't know absolute shit about actual game design.
He should stick to shitty flash animation.
This is especially apparent when he just keep fucking screaming at the top of his lungs about how the tutorial of Megaman X is utter genius, when it is really just good.
A game dont age, in the same way a movie dont age. The only thing that age is you and the society.
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I agree with most of it, yeah.
A lot of the stuff needed to be said.
Do you not understand the passage of time? Something literally ages due to the passage of time. That's what aging means, that's what we're talking about you retard.
Sup Forums is filled with autists.
Yeah, no
Nice revisionist's history you got there.
OoT carried over so many concepts from aLttP and Zelda games in general that, though there was a transition into 3D, most people thought it was a natural progression for the series.
Breath of the Wild has been criticized for dropping most things the series is known for and no longer feeling like Zelda
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Just a crazy Korean Starcraft player who threw soysauce at children. Footage of him going mental on stream has been famous online for a while.
>Yeah, no
Nice revisionist's history you got there.
I´m old enough to have played the first zelda on NES by release and bought it by myself, please.
>OoT carried over so many concepts from aLttP and Zelda games in general that, though there was a transition into 3D, most people thought it was a natural progression for the series
No. ALTTP + Links Awakening felt like an open world game with a really big areas to explore. OOT was just an empty central HUB (minus lonlon ranch) with some worlds around. OOT brings elements, right, but the execution is a new game, the whole battle/target system make it a whole new game.
>Breath of the Wild has been criticized for dropping most things the series is known for and no longer feeling like Zelda
Breath of the wild drops most things the serie is known since OOT. BOTW feels more closer to a true 2D zelda, the transition to 3D is closer to original Zelda and ALTTP or Link´s Awakening.
Milk ages because the chemical composition is degraded by time.
Movies and game keept the same, the passage of time happens for you, the retard who compares milk with immaterial stuff.
Watch just a small portion of the Game Grumps playthrough of Ocarina of Time and you'll find that most of his complains stem from his inability to play the game. He, for instance, complains about enemies forcing you to wait, when most enemies can be defeated quickly by using the right items. But no, Arin will run around the Spirit Temple with the fucking Pocket Cuccoo equipped and then talk about the game like he's a game designer.
Literally who? His art style looks good like shit.
Your mom aged like milk
nobody cares what your old useless brain thinks, wtf u doing on Sup Forums anyways
Jesus Christ, can we get a fucking e-celeb board already? Somebody go suck Hiroshima's cock for it.
Most of his points were extremely retarded and I say this as someone who dislikes OoT. His opinions are also worthless in this specific argument because from when I used to watch Game Grumps it became clear very quickly that his brain simply cannot process three-dimensional video games, there's this compilation of dumbass shit he did playing Wind Waker and it seriously looks like when you're a kid and you make your parent try a video game, and they just can't even control it at all and it seems bizarre to you because you've always known how to work a controller.
>milk is still milk
>drink milk after 30 days
>"ITS STILL GOOD. MILK IS GOOD GUYS. ITS JUST MILK"
>food analogy
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is he even still relevant?
If I milk a cow now I will get the same product I got 20 years ago.
Sort of. He's right about some points, but also gets things wrong and ignores similar points about Link to the Past.
Also, as we've seen him actually play 3D games, it's most likely that his dislike of them is because he simply can't navigate the 3D space, and can't be assed to follow simple instructions that the game gives to player. Back during NES and SNES days games were simpler, so they didn't have many ingame tutorials that players could ignore, and smashing through text was often a valid option. With OoT came change, and Egoraptor could not adapt.
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There are a lot of things wrong with OoT but his criticisms of the game are absolute garbage. He's a terrible gamer and an even worse game reviewer, he doesn't understand game design in the slightest.
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>Almost definitely, all the problems he outlined were fixed in BotW,
I actually feel like BotW's combat is even slower and involves more waiting most of the time.
>all these fags hating on /ourguy/ egoraptor
your newfag is showing
He was wrong about almost everything in that video. You can't go anywhere you want in ALttP and in fact Death Mountain, the very thing he's bitching about being closed off in OoT, is also inaccessible from the start of ALttP.
He sites the door transitions as waiting, but there are a lot of screen transitions and a long transition for every staircase. He sites the Master Sword cutscene but you have to do that way less than equipping the mirror and swapping back and forth between dimensions in ALttP.
He just cherrypicks everything.
Bottom line, both games are masterpieces and the shit I mentioned about ALttP above is hardly an issue if you're not autistic, but it's also not an issue for OoT.
>you are playing it in the complete incorrect context. You have no idea what video game culture was like back in 1997/8
Despite growing up during that time, it seems Arin follows this too. He probably felt the same way about OoT back then but couldn't comprehend why anyone else would like so he probably just held onto those contrarian beliefs just to be cool. He's basically the same way about Dante and Devil May Cry in general.
>"you can just beat Super Castlevania 4 with the whip you don't need sub-items! this game is too easy!"
>proceeds to get his ass beat proving this and has never actually finished the game
>still spouting revisionist bullshit
anecdotal evidence doesn't work fag
Lol Arin is such a washed-up hack. I wonder how dead he is inside. He hasn't been relevant since 2013 and that was only because Jon left that dumbass show and that started a controversy.