Why did this community have to be so bad? You'd think with games of such a caliber as the original Silent Hills, it'd be singing the praises of the intended story of the developers, celebrating the characters and the worlds which were created.
Instead we got:
Constant theorizing over baseless concepts (muh "I'm a serial killer", muh Silent Hill is purgatory, muh multiple dimensions).
A willingness to not only accept but DEFEND post Team Silent games, normally while shit-talking the older games.
Only ever really talking about Silent Hill 2 (you can absolutely do this, but when the reason is "I don't like the cult", you have to ask yourself do you even like Silent Hill to begin with?).
And many many other reasons, this community was fucking unbearable, and was also some weird hugbox for 'muh theories', which made discussion on the series practically impossible.
Why did this community have to be so bad? You'd think with games of such a caliber as the original Silent Hills...
>A willingness to not only accept but DEFEND post Team Silent games, normally while shit-talking the older games.
this rarely happens on Sup Forums threads and most are eviscerated by words when doing so
Stop baitposting.
Silent Hill threads are one of the more consistently comfy on here because the VAST majority agree that SH 1-3 are fantastic, 4 was ok, origins was tolerable and everything else was various levels of garbage.
The cult is definitely one of the weaker elements. I don't mind the existence but the idea they control the entire town is too hard to buy into.
So neither of you have seen any SH discussion outside of Sup Forums?
The SH fanbase even off of 4cham hates any game post 3 and maybe 4
>SH2fags don't like the cult
>in the hospital you can hear the air raid siren during the otherworld switch
>there is a prison cell filled with books about occultism and satanism
>seal of Metraton on the carpet in the final battle against Pyramid Head, the same exact symbol that is carved on the shoulders of Valtiel
>one of the endings is literally about the cult
Silent Hill forums are basically Tumblr before Tumblr existed.
Also,
>some of James's nurses still have Alessa's parasitic lumps
I always thought that was an interesting detail.
>Why did this community have to be so bad?
I think it's partly the ambiguity of some of the story/lore elements, and partly the idea that everything means something. These things make SH a very fertile ground for speculation and theorizing, so naturally autists get too attached to their headcanons and fight over them all the goddamn time.
>A willingness to not only accept but DEFEND post Team Silent games
Literally never happened. Stop falseflagging u flaming cuck faggot
I like SH2 more than the cult plots, but that doesn't mean I don't like the cult plots, so not everyone is that way I guess.
The silly teories are from the infiltrated kojima's fanboys who basically only do that instead of playing the games, they are the tinfoil hats conspiracy theorists of videogames.
A huge problem with the SH fanbase is the percentage of it that hasn't even played the games.
no
i'd have to seek out forums or reddit or whatever shit
what are you accusing me of, and where have you been browsing?
you're on thin fucking ice so watch it
>tfw haven't played any after 4
I considered pirating homecoming and downpour, but it doesn't seem worth the time.
>A willingness to not only accept but DEFEND post Team Silent games, normally while shit-talking the older games.
Literally who
and this is coming from someone that actually enjoyed Downpour.
What
said, most everyone agrees that 1-3 are fantastic and everything else is mediocre to bad.
Because it's been all shit after the first four games.
Post this before fags come on crying about PT like every other thread
They're not great games, and they're absolutely terrible Silent Hill, but if you want some goofy survival horror games to play through, and you're not expecting anything great out of them, you might actually enjoy them. I mean, when shit like Countdown: Vampires and Evil Dead: Hail to the King exist, it's hard for me to call Downcoming bad. I've played way worse. It's a crapshoot whether you'll enjoy them or not though.
>characters
Most of them are pretty one note desu
>muh daughter
>muh world domination
>muh martyr complex
>muh sui/deicide and attachment issues
>muh dead dad
>muh money
>muh rape
>muh bullies
>muh ambiguous feeling about muh wife
>muh mom
And the rest don't have even that. Tell me Cybil's 5 character traits, or Eileen's, or Douglas's.
>I think it's partly the ambiguity of some of the story/lore elements, and partly the idea that everything means something. These things make SH a very fertile ground for speculation and theorizing, so naturally autists get too attached to their headcanons and fight over them all the goddamn time.
This. Literally this. SH is so ambiguous that can you literally create any theory from it. So many people get attracted to the series just because of the symbolism.
Cybil doesn't need traits, she exists to cause butthurt among the muhguiltfags.
I always thought she existed so that Harry could deliver exposition in a relatively natural way.
As for her traits:
>brave
>selfless
>comically skeptical about anything paranormal/outside of her understanding of the world
>willing to bend or break the rules and conventions for the greater good
>ineffectual
Honestly, concept of The Room is fantastic, the writing and characters, the motion of events, everything is fascinating, but indeed it has lots of flaws and second part of the game with backtracking is absolute garbage, hands down.
I think SH4 lacks atmosphere, even the camera positioning is bad. The apartments had a little bit of ambiance and life while i was reading that painter's description of the tenants but that's about it, the rest is just a bunch of corridors. The orphanage and circular were describe as some of the creepiest places in the series in the SH3 note and when you actually explore it in SH4 it's just so bland and boring.
>the entire town is too hard to buy into.
It makes perfect sense to me. In fact its one of the best parts of the lore.
And that's ok, this is enough, this is a pretty good list.
It has awesome soundtrack though, you can't argue with that.
it's a psychological horror based on angst and guilt
it attracted neurotic losers
there's no mystery op, silent hill was going to attract cancer no matter what
I tend to agree with you. Though I don't think that the bland, grey, emptiness is a bad stylistic choice. The deceptive serenity of some of the levels, and also the stairway between the worlds was a nice touch. But for the most part the environments were too normal. The forest looks exactly like a forest would, as does the orphanage, the subway, etc. There are bits of abstract weirdness thrown around in there, and all of them are great, but they're often obscured and hidden away. The sheer bland, normalcy of the environments is all the more frustrating when you have to go through that same shit twice. And then there's the hospital, which exactly the opposite of the other environments. The sheer number of room with weird shit in them desensitized me to weird shit in hospital rooms. Well, expect for the Eileen's head.
Speaking of which, the actual room was super lame. They could have done more with it. Move stuff around, make rooms subtly smaller or bigger, have doors take you to the parts of the apartment they shouldn't, shit like that, apply some uncanny malaise. Instead it just got covered in viscera and made vacuum cleaner noises at you.
But i don't think it was ever implied they controlled the entire town though. They had Kaufmann and the whole drug trafficking stuff but the police wasn't on their side. In the town itself there is barely any cult reference, not even in Dahlia's house(until SH0 came and added a huge painting of Pyramid Head in her living room). I believe Downpour also implies that the coal mine belonged to the Gillespie family and in Homecoming they really control everything, so it's basically Western developers showing this, because in the original trilogy they were sort of low profile.
I think the cult was like any satanic cult that appears in fiction where important people of society like politicians and doctors are secretly part of it and they meet every weekend to do rituals and stuff and even then not even Kaufmann was really part of it but just worked with them to make money(until SH0 came of course).
HOW NICE DO YOU THINK HEATHER’S PUBIC HAIR IS OP? I WANT TO BURY MY FACE IN IT. I BET HER PINKNESS TASTES LIKE COINS AND SMELLS OF FRESHLY BAKED COOKIES.
I could have swore it was implied in 1, 3 and 4 that they did have a large control of the town and it was also covert as well. They didn't want people to not come to the town. In fact the lore even has executioners from the towns history. It was also built on indian burial grounds and a lot of other shit.
You are correct about Kaufmann. It was more just an agreement with him and he was enough of an asshole to not really give much thought to working with basically a bunch of crazy cult people.
Oh yeah and SH4 has the prison level which the cult controlled. So you are wrong bud. They had a lot of influence behind the scenes.
>low profile
>build a giant chapel in SH3
I do agree with you though. They clearly had a lot of high profile members, what with the resources they were throwing around. The Wish House, the Water Prison, and the giant chapel in SH3 didn't build themselves. And they clearly had more than enough members for them to splinter off into different sects. But I don't think that everyone was in on it. Just more than enough people in high enough places for them to do weird, murderous shit relatively unmolested.
That said, I don't think that the cult was all that secret. Their activities probably were, but not necessarily their existence.
In SH2 there's a plaque dedicated to Jennifer Carroll who died due to christian persecution of the cult. And in SH3 we see that she was canonized as a saint. James also saw the painting of a cult's executioner during his visit to SH. The fact that cult is still operational may be a secret, but it's obvious that the people are aware that it at least existed at some point.
>It was also built on indian burial grounds
It was built on sacred native land, which means natives wouldn't live on it, much less bury their dead on it.
They had power, but not absolute control. Even in real life you can find niche religions with lots of followers and churches and things like that.
Jennifer Carroll is an interesting character, she seems to be an important figure in the cult and one of the few references to the original founding cult.
That Nicholas guy is even more mysterious. Jennifer got rek'd for not being a christian and remained steadfast in her beliefs under the threat of death. Alessa was tortured by the cult in order to produce god, which she did. But what did Nicholas do? What does being god's doctor mean? We don't even know in what time period he lived either.
I liked Shattered Memories for what it was, but it could've done with more enemy variety.
desu I have enjoyed both Homecoming and Origins far more than SH3.
SH1 and 2 still a best.
The western games are canon. Deal with it, fags. If a new Silent Hill game came out, it wouldn't be known as Silent Hill 5.
>agrees to take care of a hamburger kid in exchange for drugs and money
>keeps quiet about a child's imprisonment and abuse for years
>got to know the kid, spent a lot of time with her due to that being her job
>grossed out by having to take care of her and supernatural weirdness rather than the treatment the poor girl received, quits, leaving the said hamburger child all alone
>comes back to demand drugs, either OD'd due to being too enthusiastic to snort PTV again, or got rek'd for trying to blackmail Kaufmann/the cult for more drugs or money
>never made a move to help the girl who loved her in any meaningful way
How are people so easily swayed by a pretty face and gentle mannerisms? Sure, she didn't abuse Alessa herself, but she is still a shitty person.
I don't know this feel, i've been an SH fan since 1, I don't like 2 that much, the only non series one I played was origins and I know all about the autistic 2fan" devs cock ups with downpour.
oh and "muh purgatory" is pretty accurate but since you lead with "muh" im just not going there (also going out in ~20 so no time to explain that Alyessa/cheryl/heather is a godess and stuff. which is explained in the games.)
but she a qt in a sexy nurse outfit with big milkers
What fanbase is good?
OP's bait is shit but at least he made a Silent Hill thread.
Now post:
>Your favorite Silent Hill game
>Your favorite song from the soundtrack
>Favorite character
Silent Hill 2
youtube.com
Vincent
Pretty accurate to how women are in real life. She was just being a typical woman.
>Silent Hill threads are one of the more consistently comfy on here
Far from it. 99% of the time they are banal waifufaggotry and whining about anything even approaching criticism of the original trilogy. Especially criticism of Silent Hill 3 which the waifufags can't abide.
You don't know the half of it. All the Twin Perfect drama was just insane. Everytime I get reminded of it I lose a little more of my faith in humanity.
The ED article is complete trash, but I'm not a big enough faggot to edit ED.
You can have your grievances about Downpour all you want, but you have to admit that Murphy was the only protagonist who acted more human.
>Murphy was the only protagonist who acted more human.
I don't understand what that's supposed to mean. Are you saying Heather wasn't very relatable, especially given she's still a teenager and is prone to outbursts?
>St. Nicholas: Miraculous Hands, a Doctor of God.
Probably some healer. Also considering Alessa was born with psychic powers, we can assume that the other two saints also probably had legit powers too.
Also i noticed he looks a lot like the real life Saint Nicholas.
>SH1
>youtube.com
>James or Alessa
>What do you like about Silent Hill 3?
>"MUH HEATHER WAIFU
>western games are canon
>completely change dahlia's house
>completely change the layout and design of the town and aren't consistent with each other
>change it from a small resort town to a city
>all of origins doesn't work giving the model of car Harry drives in SH1
>Homecoming may as well be a different IP for how much it fucks up design wise
>Downpour changes how the nightmare works, where the only right ending is none of them
>Book of Memories retcons literally everything
>Silent Hills misses the point entirely
>Shattered Memories can't be canon
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Heather/Alessa
What are you talking about? The only weird stuff I see is when people spam Heather in the threads. Otherwise those threads are pretty chill. And I'lldefend Homecoming, even though I fully acknowledge it doesnt hold a candle to the original four games.
come on user, you know the real answer is everyone loves those puzzles on hard mode where you have to have read shakespear IRL to know it.
>That Hospital keypad puzzle
I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I chose Hard Puzzle Difficulty. I tried my hardest not to look it up after some time, but I was weak.
Homecoming has some pretty retarded stuff, but at least atmosphere wise you can tell that they tried hard to create some atmosphere even if it ends up being generic horror atmosphere, but at least they tried.
>Are you saying Heather wasn't very relatable
I don't know, you tell me.
>Tripfag
Post denied.
what does Sup Forums think of Twin Perfect
youtube.com
Speaking of the cult Ito said the reason why the mandarin and closer look similar to each other is to let the players know that the cult also has an influence to the appearance of the monsters and not the just the protag itself
But come on we all know the later games were too lazy to come up with something new
They sometimes don't know when to let a joke go. There's also a couple of things they try to convince you that they know better, when in reality, said thing in the Silent Hill universe is meant to be ambiguous and left to interpretation. But overall, I enjoy their videos.
>be a child in middle school
>hanging out with your friends in a subway station
>filthy and probably mentally ill adult homeless man comes up to you and awkwardly starts propositioning you
>lolwutpear.jpg
>naturally weirded out
>explain you're not into him, but compliment his appearance all the same
>creepy weirdo starts calling your name
>explains that he was eavesdropping on you since you were a toddler
>concernedshibainu.png
>tell the creep to fuck off
>he becomes a serial killer
>somehow be seen as the bad guy in that interaction by the fandom
It does make some sense. Eddie sees James's monster at one point. James feels Angela's flames. Alessa's roaches and parasites are present in James's otherworld. For some reason """personal hells""" can overlap, and leave long lasting traces even after the person who was in there died or left Silent Hill. It also works to justify pyramid head being in every fucking western game in some capacity.
Rosseter has the most punchable face in existence but they trigger the normieshit SH "fans" so hard I have to respect them
I like that they made Tomm so butthurt he had to include them in his headcanon.