Why is the wrpg/crpg genre dead?

why is the wrpg/crpg genre dead?

It is not, there have been pretty good releases recently and good stuff to come.

Name three games where inventory management is a fun aspect.

it isn't, issue is it's all indie now

>WRPG
>complex
>"exploration" is praised when it is just follow glowing breadcrumbs
>combat is always stand in front of poorly animated mannequin and mash attack
WOAH, MY ALMONDS ARE GETTING ACTIVATED HERE

Divinity Original Sin 2 is GOTY
t. jrpgfag

>WRPG
>90% of the "gameplay" is you doing inventory management

I don't even play persona but I enjoy the butts.

That's not a problem

>oh god, another dungeon? can't i just go on more dates

The sad part is this is 100% accurate. Fuck the Persona fanbase.

Because normies took over the industry, now they only play "RPG" games like Skyrim or The Witcher 3.

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I am interested in the job at either the St office and York area and I am interested in the position you have available for rent for the summer of June and I am interested in the position of a a r group e for the purposes of we encourage

But that's fun

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Why do you do this? Do you really like to be a freak with every disgusting fetish imaginable?

When will you pathetic weebs accept that "WRPG" is not a thing and never will be outside of your anime circle jerks? "West" is not a country and "WRPG" is not a genre.

>Why is the genre that just copies the most generic fantasy tropes dead?
dunno, probably because it was way to interesting and imaginative for it's own good lol

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For a series that owes a lot of popularity to waifus, Persona's romances are extremely half assed. You get a handful of dates and that's it.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

nieche market considering most muricucks like to play fast competitive fps games. The european market isnt worth it anymore. Why do you think CA is making the ROMANCE of the three kingdoms instead of something europe related? The chinese market is huge.

There should be a Sup Forums/veeb that only discusses shitty weeb and jap games, so we can finally get some quality discussion here

>picks spinoff game rather than the actual series it's part of
Into the trash your opinion goes

RE 4

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RE4 and that's pretty much it.

i agree,also those two,but Nanako is to be treasured

Shadow Sae sure had a nice looking hat.

Western RPGs are fucking boring dude that's why, just look at the image you posted. Why bother with all that shit at the top when you can play a JRPG and have godlike powers while cute anime girls accompany you?

Is the top one supposed to be making fun of the fact that WRPGs have shit gameplay?

All games should have limitless inventory space and be balanced around that

deus ex

prey

And here I thought skyrim was the shallowest shit

>mfw when the 2 photo shows how both are trash

System Shock 2
RE4
Deus Ex (and HR as well as MD)

>Truly, these in-game philosophical texts have brought me closer to illumination.

>inventory management
Maybe if you're a min-max autist. You absolutely don't need to carry around everything.

>wrpgs and jrpgs
but that's literally crpgs vs persona

and the west literally only made like 2 decent crpgs in the last 2 decades. Beside that WRPG only means action rpgs with horrible combat and walking-talking simulator gameplay

don't western rpgs focus WAY more on romancing and sex related stuff?

Shitty lazy developer with no attention to detail and generic assets.

They were both made for hardcore rape.

there's a lot more than two, there's a crpg renaissance going on if you have any taste and aren't just a contrarian

meanwhile jrpgs keep getting more infantile and formulaic

While I like lolis in games (Dragon's Dogma is the shit), gameplay has to be primary and they secondary. Shit like the Persona series is just SMT but faggot-like with animu shit added to appeal to lonely weeaboos. And 2d waifus? Fuck that noise.

>that yukiko pic
Clothed woman with nice legs/asses in pantyhoses are the single best thing on earth. They feel and smell amazing

BG2 ruined everything, Dragon Age made it popular, and now it's everywhere

actually, yeah. Sex is everywhere there.

I only do shit like that for the trophies. All that time spent on your character getting laid could have ibstead been used paying someone else to add actual content to the game. If I want to fap I'll look at porn, if I want to pursue a relationship I'll get off my ass and talk to chicks. Fuck people who ask for this shit, I just want to play.

The image is meant to incite arguements

>I will have to pick a faction soon
What is this obsession with factions in western rpgs?

But you can at least admit that lonely weeaboos are a relatively large demographic, right?

Care to name some renaissance titles?

no, and not even remotely as much as jrpgs do.

the best recent c/wrpg pillars of eternity didnt even have a romance

You better fucking name 0x0A games that actually fit the "Western RPG" description, without listing the old titles everyone played 20 times already.

This. Fedora-kun is strictly wrpg territory. Put Fatlus for bottom, or something.

Too bad Pillars was a complete pile of shit.

pillars of eternity, divinity: original sin 1/2, torment: numenera, underrail, shadowrun: dragonfall & hong kong

Now make a comparison to modern Western RPGs and JRPGs.

its cool that you have bad taste, but despite the contrarian hate it gets here it has the best writing of any recent rpg by a huge margin, whatever other flaws it has.

whether or not the themes resonated with you is another story, but its well written

Looks like the pictures got mixed up, OP.

Too bad the writing is all exposition of the world outside of the game's main setting and the plot is boring as shit.

Don't reply, you're only encouraging him.

Much more accurate.

This is some Quentin tier shit

>durr the writing is all exposition
>why are they putting so much effort into fleshing out this brand new setting lol

you seem like kind of a retard. i don't supposed you'd care to name your favourite novel?

They should've used all that effort into making a good game with an interesting story. All they succeeded was making me literally want my character to leave that shithole and go someplace more interesting, like the northern kingdom.

Can't you like both ? I enjoy both Planescape: Torment and Chrono Trigger.

I hate the shit endless grind in many JRPGS, but not all of them pull this shit, and many western RPGS have bad character designs, but not all of them.

OP clearly doesn't remember the early 90s

>Wow dude, I can be a huge strong barbarian and kill shit, unlike in real life, where I write accounting software and the boss fucks my wife.
>Did you hear about this game called Arena? It has titties!
>Damn Sierra made another masterpiece, do you have a walkthrough, I wanna see if the princess gets naked *slurp*

So basically the WRPG genre has been the same until including Mass Effect 2

but it was a good game with an interesting story. especially when you include the expansion.

are you one of those people that criticizes shit but you don't have the guts to actually name something you liked?

I understand that you've never played Mask of the Betrayer or Planescape or any good crpg, but that doesn't mean that what you say is true.

Pillars of Eternity was a wash. It did absolutely nothing interesting, story-wise or gameplay-wise and all it succeeded was in boring me to death. I tried playing it again recently and I quit through character creation because I knew what awaited me.

Even Tyranny was better. At least in Tyranny you had real dialogue options and a somewhat interesting magic mechanic.

kek this guy gets it

Not that guy, I'm but the writing in pillars is overwritten trash, if they had a proper editor it would have cut it by at least 50% and about 20% of what stays would be re-written. Game I liked fallout 1 for example and for a book example "Good Omens"

it wasn't bad in the new Prey

nah, i definitely have played both of those, and they were great.

tyranny was good too, but compared to pillars its half of a game. again, i don't know whether you're a fedora or what, but you gotta seperate not enjoying the themes of a game from the quality of the writing itself.

Why don't Dishonored games have inventories? I hated this, plus the games are too easy.

What version of the game did you play that makes you think the writing is good

All I remember is just constant descriptions of how characters looked and repetitions of those descriptions, and every dialogue option was "Tell me more".

Also wizards being able to do physical feats in dialogue because Might was their main stat.

JRPG = get level 99 by grinding "fun" "skilled" hack and slash weeb combat, and thats all it is.

>oh god, another dungeon?
>cant i just go on more dates
literally me

The problem with the game is that neither gameplay nor story were good.

I can enjoy a game with a good story and shit gameplay. I can enjoy a game with good gameplay and shit story. I can enjoy a simple game, I can enjoy a complicated game. I can enjoy walking simulators if the story and atmosphere are engaging.

But Pillars just had nothing going for it. They were trying to make Baldur's Gate 2 and they mad Baldur's Gate 1 instead, but with even less charm.

I stopped playing it after the pathetic ending of the second act, where you ended up going to the god-tree village of the ooga boogas. I tried really hard to like the game up until then, but after Aloth's pathetic """"reveal"""" I just couldn't bear it any longer.

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>is retarded

Checks out.

Oh shit, a fellow Naotofag

>I [...] do shit [...] for trophies.

WRPG fags are cancer.

are you really implying anyone who talks like in the top text isn't a complete virgin aswell?

Maybe say that western art in general is shit nowdays, anons?

there is no point in making a complex world if everyone is just using walktroughs and checking things on wikis

Shadow Sae does things to my dick.

Can you say that either are doing well anyway? Both seem to be very niche. jrpg may be persona and wrpg probably what, Underrail? Both have like 20 people playing it in the west.

All games with grid inventory, excluding arpg´s because they constantly shit loot at you.

You are right. Don't listen to contrarians.
Dating in Persona is less than 5% of the game and like 20% of 9 S.Links at most (out of 20).
Meanwhile Bioware wRPGs or wRPGs in general shove you sex and romances everywhere because "OH WE'RE SO MATURE".

Is that bait?

We both know you answered your own question with pic related.

>mfw the only thing I liked about PoE was Durance and the Grieving Mother

Why was everything so meh? The story was bland, the gameplay was boring. They might as well have made a Neverwinter Nights module.

Because they made it as safe as possible and didn't take any chances.

Bioshit RPGs are pretty guilty of the social life part.

Diablo 2

Not that person but I agree with them. PoE is dry as fuck. All worldbuilding and no interesting characters, a plot that I couldn't give the slightest fuck about, etc.

Contrast to Divinity: Original Sin II(not the first one the first one is intolerably campy) where the characters have actual personality.

People that call the writing for games like PoE good strike me as the kind of people who don't read much, or just read epic fantasy. The game is entirely devoid of compelling relationships and there is pretty much no humanity in the writing.

Honestly PoE is a game for autists.

>Faggots like OP think their 3D social life is superior to my 2D social life
Enjoy your wrinkled cellulite acne whores, loser

funnily enough, i like the battling and the dungeon crawling in persona WAY more than the fucking life sim half.

jRPG
>party members have inter-party banter and gameplay and shit

wRPG
>you spent the last 10 hours downloading and applying mods to make Skyrim great, only to forget that TES games are completely empty and boring as shit the instant you get bored with wandering around as a 10/10 muscular bigtitty elf and getting fucked by big-donged futa nords

I hope you play SMT because that's exactly what it's based around.