Was it really that bad?

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Was it really that bad?

Isaiah Garcia

Was it really that bad?
Did it really deserve the treatment it got?
Were people really expecting the moon and the stars from a 20 person dev studio working on their first major project?

January 14, 2018 - 02:01

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Xavier Clark

Yes yes and yes. This wasn't Spore where the publisher fucked things over to make it more marketable. The devs here intentionally led people on, knowing that they were over promising.

January 14, 2018 - 02:03

Jace Butler

I still don't understand the controversy. I'm sure it was a shit game but what exactly were people expecting? As far as I know everything in the trailers and demos was in the game. It just turned out it wasn't actually that fun to play.

January 14, 2018 - 02:05

Ryan Lopez

Yes, its the devs fault for fucking lying though. Literally was promoting things that where not possible.

January 14, 2018 - 02:06

Andrew Clark

The quality of the game was never the problem. The problem was that the game promised content that wasn't in it.

It doesn't matter, though. Those guys have worked really hard since the launch to bring that game to where it should have been. And they've done an amazing job. And, best of all, they did not charge any money for the last 2 years of work they put into fixing the game.

That studio has more than made up for their initial PR blunder. Which is way more than EA or Bethesda will ever be able to say. People need to let it go.

January 14, 2018 - 02:06

Nicholas Gray

What did they promise that wasn't in the game?

January 14, 2018 - 02:07

Nathaniel Edwards

Yes it was.
Yes it did.
And people expected the moon because the chimp in charge of promoting it, was lying though it's teeth to sell the product that would never be.

January 14, 2018 - 02:07

Chase Watson

They lied about features and all the retards got hyped about it, making the disappointment bigger. If it were a $10 or 15 game, people would be posting it in comfy threads or r/comfy or whatever.

January 14, 2018 - 02:07

Hudson Stewart

>will you be able to see people
>yes but the odds are low

>can you see the player model
>only if you run into another player

>showed large ships in atmosphere doing shit
>showed dynamic ships and other space objects that turned into static models
>exploration based game about finding new things and places but you need to be constantly hunting for and maintaining your supply of a half dozen materials to even exist on a planet (minecraft is justifiably ripped apart due to one single meter replenished by a large amount of different items, this is next level bullshit)

they marketed a universe and sold a chore

January 14, 2018 - 02:07

Josiah Myers

>No Man's Soy

January 14, 2018 - 02:07

Joseph Gutierrez

they say it's a lot better now

January 14, 2018 - 02:07

Owen Walker

It's complicated. It wasn't like an edited PR release. The lead guy just didn't do interviews very well. And answered yes or no questions based on his aspirations and not reality. It was not deliberate, malicious dishonesty. It was just a guy that didn't know how to handle communications.

January 14, 2018 - 02:08

Dylan Roberts

The biggest example off the top of my head is how they constantly just danced around multiplayer and went as far as they could to never just say "no, it is not multiplayer." The fact that they didn't do that is all the evidence I need that they knew they were over promising, if not outright lying, which makes this a worse fiasco in my mind than Spore since it's more malicious.

January 14, 2018 - 02:08

Christian Lopez

Being able to see other players on the same planet as you

Being able to join space battles you come across

Having fleets of ships roaming the galaxy and having factions at war that you can take sides in

Running into space anomalies while traveling like blackholes and wormholes

and thats just what I remember off the top of my head, whenever the main dev was interviewed about the game he just made shit up for some reason

January 14, 2018 - 02:09

Blake Sanders

multiplayer
also
youtube.com/watch?v=-5jWtz3rzco

January 14, 2018 - 02:09

Connor Ramirez

if you just want to explore is there any reason to buy this instead of just getting space engine for free?

January 14, 2018 - 02:09

Liam Smith

...

January 14, 2018 - 02:09

Jayden Flores

So it sounds like he didn't actually lie, people just let hype and their imaginations get carried away without taking responsibility for an impulsive purchase.

January 14, 2018 - 02:10

Isaac Morales

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on a lot of shit like that. It seems like true multiplayer was planned but they were clearly having trouble implementing it and then they had to cut it last minute, as seen by the stickers correcting the multiplayer on the boxes.

January 14, 2018 - 02:11

Caleb Harris

>And, best of all, they did not charge any money for the last 2 years of work they put into fixing the game
Though I don't knw for sure, just using my common sense, but it looks to me that they got funded by sony and sony rushed them to relese by the deadline, when they weren't ready to release at all.
They have added a lot of content that they didn't intend to as well, but I gather if they had had another year or two, it would have come out with good reviews

I enjoyed the game

January 14, 2018 - 02:11

Oliver Hill

You're gonna sit there and pretend that every fucking studio on the planet doesn't dance around touchy subjects that they aren't sure will make it in the game or not? Nigga, please. That "malicious" interview was done long before the game was finalized which is why the dev thought all those things would make it in the game. Use your fucking head instead of just grabbing the torches and pitchforks because the sheep told you to.

January 14, 2018 - 02:11

Carter Allen

Right now it's a decent 15-20$ indie game.

January 14, 2018 - 02:12

Jonathan Nelson

And the developers supported and encouraged that by telling half truths and not denying rumor, which is the bad part.

January 14, 2018 - 02:12

Grayson Lewis

lmgtfy.com/?q=no man's sky lies list

January 14, 2018 - 02:12

Oliver Wilson

No, he lied

Someone specifically asked if you could interact with other players. He said yes, and it was found that multiplayer was not there in any way whatsoever

January 14, 2018 - 02:12

Levi Nelson

this so much
specific questions and answers and people choose to pretend like there was some form of vagueness to it

no, he flat out said you could see other players and that was simply NOT POSSIBLE with the software they originally released.

January 14, 2018 - 02:15

Jack Williams

Yeah, it's a chill game. I think a lot of people are pissed because they were expecting epic space warfare and RPG elements and all this other shit when it's just an exploration game that you unwind with after a long day at the office. Not high-octane high-drama super-galactic-Armageddon with a gazillion customization ships and weapons and shit.

At the end of the day, people are just pissed because they got burned on pre-orders. And the funny thing is you know they didn't learn their fucking lesson. STOP BUYING PRE-ORDERS/PRE-ALPHAS/EARLY RELEASE/EARLY ACCESS or this shit will continue!

January 14, 2018 - 02:16

Easton Adams

>expecting what devs promise is expecting the moon and the stars

January 14, 2018 - 02:18

Owen Baker

actually people wanted just an exploration game, not a meter replenishing simulator

January 14, 2018 - 02:18

Daniel Perez

He didn't lie. At the time that question was asked, the game was not finished, and he believe that content would be in the game. Just like everything else from The fact is he just shouldn't have been in front of a camera. It was human error, and it was not malicious. They should have hired a PR person, and I'm sure they realize that now. There was no deliberate dishonesty in an attempt to deceive the consumer.

January 14, 2018 - 02:18

Chase Williams

...

January 14, 2018 - 02:19

Ethan James

>ask if you could see other people
>he says yes
>you cant

I mean how retarded can you be?

January 14, 2018 - 02:20

Kevin King

I dont care if it was malicious or it wasnt finished.

There is no way to weasel out of the fact that he lied when he was asked about it, intentions good or not, he sold something to gamers that he didnt even know was possible.

Why do people defend this retard so much.

January 14, 2018 - 02:20

Luke Watson

You realize you can still lie and not be malicious about it right? A lie told out of ignorance is still a lie.

January 14, 2018 - 02:21

Levi Anderson

>"there is MP?"
>a) yes
>b) not yet, but we're working on it
>c) no
One option is a lie. A lie made to increase sales and profit from the ones you lied, hence malicious.

January 14, 2018 - 02:23

Cooper Hall

>expecting

blame that fucker, lying through his fucking teeth about mechanics the game did not support. the game would have had a more mild reaction if not for him.

January 14, 2018 - 02:23

Julian Gray

Yeah the guy you're quoting is a retard. He definitely lied, and not accidentally

January 14, 2018 - 02:23

Bentley Moore

Anyone have the no man's soy edit?

January 14, 2018 - 02:24

Jacob Bennett

no man's soy XD

January 14, 2018 - 02:24

Adrian Foster

>is there MP?
>yes
>game releases with no MP

January 14, 2018 - 02:24

William Carter

His ancestors are smiling at him. Can you say the same?

January 14, 2018 - 02:25

Liam Thomas

So because other devs lie they are allowed to lie too? How hard it is to say "No" and then surprise everyone with an unexpected feature?

January 14, 2018 - 02:25

Andrew Cox

Is semi-long hair plus untrimmed bread plus glasses the ultimate soyboy essential package?

January 14, 2018 - 02:25

Adam Morgan

I dont get why everyone defends the devs when this comes up, who gives a shit if they are indie devs or idiots. If EA did this shit you would be pissed at them too, so why do people act like this was an accident.

January 14, 2018 - 02:26

Benjamin White

I bought it as a comfy space exploration game and that was what I got, games like scam citizen or elite aren't for me. I like the art style and although they have changed the game lots, making the grind long, I got my fun out of it.
Only gripe I had is the massive changes they made to how the game functions, like resources and the base I built, when i came back to it the entire planet has changed, is desolate, devoid of life, and the base is fucked. Also that it I didnt get the atlus pass 3 until well after the 2nd big update.

January 14, 2018 - 02:26

Austin Watson

Thought that said No Man Soy.

January 14, 2018 - 02:26

Levi Gutierrez

>He didn't lie. At the time that question was asked, the game was not finished, and he believe that content would be in the game.

Ok but then he kept his trap shut for the months leading up to release when he knew the game wouldn't ship with any meaningful multiplayer component even as people were continuing to talk about it like it was a sure thing.

If the reason wasn't indefensible they would've just said something before the second week of articles about how NMS players are still trying to find the secret event that activates multiplayer

January 14, 2018 - 02:27

Jack Jenkins

hey guys did anyone see "that" webm when this game came out...I thought he would at least do #2

January 14, 2018 - 02:27

Aaron Wood

shut the fuck up you apologetic nigger, those interviews were done up to release date and he kept spewing the same lies

January 14, 2018 - 02:27

Blake Green

At launch it was a super dissapointing $60 random landscape generator

Now, almost two years later, it's just another grindy survival game. If you're into that kind of stuff, I'd say its worth the cheap price they're asking for it these days

January 14, 2018 - 02:28

Colton Ortiz

The game was so big that you will never find your friends. Basically pretending that it could be multiplayer when it was not

January 14, 2018 - 02:28