HOLY SHIT THAT PLOT TWIST

This game is amazing

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why the hell are there so many kotor threads lately

FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, YOU'RE AMAZING

Probably because of the new SW movie

It really was not much of a surprise lets be honest, decent game though. Kotor 2 is far better though

Disney shills trying to convice us that Star Wars ain't shit.

Yeah I was surprised Bastila had a dick too

TBFP are doing an LP on it and Sup Forums likes to pretend they don't watch them.

i fucked up and cant beat the finaly fight with malik. fuk dis game but it was fun

Woolie is playing through it with Pat.

Best friends playthrough

Sup Forums really is just full of kids that don't even play games now, isn't it.

On that note; on which platforms are avaiable this game?

>now
Sup Forums has had a rageboner for LPers and streamers ever since vidyavidya

PC and PC

Might pirate

Do it
I don't know what everyone's talking about but I always heard people say KOTOR was great but never got around to play it, then The Last Jedi came out, it was shit, so I was craving for some quality Star Wars content and decided to play it. Enjoying it a lot

Now? Sup Forums has been having Best Friends Play threads since Woolie was that black guy that sometimes shows up in the Best Friends Brawl series that hasn't existed for like two years now.

Partly but mostly

the new movies and video games are shit so we're reminiscing about the good old days

Revan

>force awakens was shit, just a new hope remake
>OMG THIS NEW HOPE REMAKE GAME PLOT IS AWESOME

Kotor is one of those games that you could play for a decade and still find new shit, especially it's sequel

>Bastila was originally going to be Vima Sunrider, daughter of the famed Jedi Master Nomi Sunrider (didn't because of trademarking issue)
>Juhani was going to use Bastila's name
>Unused lines from Bastila on Korriban (which can be accessed through warping
>Unused ending where Female Revan can kill Bastila after slaying Malak in order to redeem herself (only if you have romance with Carth and were dark side)
>An extra floor in the black-vulkar base that involved doing some quests for the criminals

Not to mention that Kotor 2 had its share of cut-content, some of which may be gone forever.

Dude Fuck luke for being such a pussy
Killing younglings ruins in the family
>and so does the dark side?

Yea right, you didn't figure it out

It is nothing like A New Hope. Also TLJ was shit.

TSL was only 70-80% finished. The restoration patch fixes a lot but there is still missing content like the droid planet and some of the ending.

>>Unused ending where Female Revan can kill Bastila after slaying Malak

it really annoys me that this isn't an option in the game because it's a really practical, sensible thing to do (use bastilla's battle meditation for this crucial fight then dispose of her so she doesn't end up using it against you in the future)

In the unised ending I think you die. You kill Bastila and the Republic destroys the Star Forge with you and Carth on board.

You can get the droid planet on the Steam workshop, but I would highly advise against it. It's extremely tedious and boring. Plus I heard it's prone to crashing, which is quite common in Kotor 2

Yeah, I remember installing the mod myself to see if it actually works. But it depends on your relationship with Carth

Funny thing is that you can warp to that cutscene as a male and still get Carth to pronounce his love to you.

droid planet is removed for a reason, aside from a brief synopsis of what should happen if you meet lonna vash(which isn't even used in the mod) there is only custom dialogue and quests which surprise are total shit.

I will never understand how any teen or adult could be surprised by this twist. The foreshadowing and hints where too in your face..

This is even worse youtube.com/watch?v=Fz0BKAxSuRU

>is leia a Jedi?
>Mark: i told her that she is
>Rian: She's not a Jedi
>Mark: *defeated* What Do I know
At least he's been shitting on the new ones for years

...

Yeah, I'd be surprised too if I hadn't figured it out when I was twelve. Not to patronize you but man, this is retarded. The only reach was whether or not Bastilla would still love the MC after she turned to the dark side.

By the way, Revan is a canon male and the Exile is a canon female. No matter what choices you made. Disney be fucked.

Yeah, he's was the main character on a very important movie series of all time working on it from the very get-go with the closest people responsible for SW and not a regular prick who grew only watching those movies.

Yeah, what does Luke Skywalker knows about SW? What does Mark motherfucking Hamill knows about SW?

Unpopular opinion, but I always prefered female Revan and Male Exile, mainly male Exile because I find the handmaiden more interesting than the disciple. Frankly, Im not a big fan of bastila's character. I really wish they had the permission to use Vima Sunrider instead of her. Plus it always weirded me out, considering Bastila is like 20 years younger than Revan, and then later gets knocked up by him. At least Vima would be around the same age as Revan

The decision to give them canon genders was made long before Disney bought Lucasfilm and long before EA became involved with the games.

10 years older than Bastila at most.

The plot twist is shit though

Sith are nothing like empire.
Ebon Hawk is nothing like Millenium Falcon.
Star Forge is nothing like Death Star.
Yeah right.

I thought Revan was around 38 and Bastila was like 19-20. Carth even says that she's really young. She's probably the same age as Dustil.

Where is his age revealed?

Yeah it shares a few aesthetic similarities.

>uh...there are bad guys and there is a big space station and you fly in a ship...uh...yeah totally rips off A New Hope man!

It's not predictable at all. Just because you have visions of the Sith doesn't mean you are one of them, I don't see how you would even consider that while having those visions. And the dialogues across the game aren't that obvious
Nah it was pretty cool

>it's not predictable at all
What, it throws everything at you at Dantooine, if you're a 10 year old you can't figure it out by then you get it for sure on Kashyyk.

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I can't get KOTOR2 to not crash on cutscenes on my laptop with Intel integrated graphics. Even disabling them doesn't help.

Empire strikes back somehow manages to avoid this.

Says on Wookieepedia that he was born in 3994bby, two years after the Great Sith War. He's also the same age as Carth. By the time Kotor 1 rolls around (3956bby) he's 38.

But then again, Who is to say that's true. I remember on that same website it said that Kreia was born in 4001bby, making her only 7 years older than Revan.

kotor isn't a new hope, its more like all the ot rolled into one

it hits a surprising number of plot points that the ot does, just in different ways or in a different order

>the whole leviathan section mirrors the escape from the death star right down to the mentor sacrificing themselves so you can escape
>when you first fight the main villian there's a huge twist that changes the protagonist's relation to the main villain
>a planet gets destroyed to establish how bad the bad guys are

im sure there's many more

This. The ancient computer going, "you have a brain like Revan, but slightly off" is super obvious.

I think it makes more sense too but whatever. I still like the malexfemale BastillaxRevan romance with a MF romance. Thing is, I think it would have been better if Revan had just stayed with Bastilla the whole time. Lucas just loved the idea of a non-existent Dad in my opinion. Which is fuuuucked up. So whatever makes your shake man.

Isn't the canon Exile some weird canon where she recruits Brianna instead of the fucking loser Mical?

I always thought Kreia looked older due to dark side disfigurement, because Atton always brought up how "disfigured" her face looked..

Yeah. LucasArts fucked up on that one.

>It's extremely tedious and boring.
no
>Plus I heard it's prone to crashing
never happend to me

Not really, if there was an option to play KOTOR 2 with that canon, I'd play Fem Exile way more often so I can flirt with Atton without that piece of shit Mical trying to get in between things.

>they picked a female character when revan was canon male

yeah im not watching this garbage

Nobody likes Mical, I was pissed on my second playthrough that I didn't get the handmaiden.

I mean they fucked it up because there's no way to get that on a playthrough. Who the fuck cares about canon anyhow?

Yeah, that is true. 2 needs a remake where you can choose between the two. Or just removes him from the game and has Brianna as canon.

Finally a kotor thread. So what is the threshold for being offered prestige classes at level 15? I'm considering doing a heavy-armor LS walk through, but I want to get the Sith Marauder 's Fury since it gives extra attacks and isn't armor restricted and then bounce in alignment.

>Brianna
>Has ties to Exile's past due to Arran Kae and Atris
>Teaches Exile Echani Battle Precognition
>Tomboy warrior waifu with big bust and abs
>Dreams of being a jedi so she can understand her mother and father better and why they went to war

>Mical
>Some guy that the Exile met before for a short while

The mod fucked my save and I had to console command a modded item that opens doors into the Jedi Temple on Dantooine. Don't do it bros took me a good couple hours to solve.

>lair and brainlet
Honestly, besides the security droid and the only female voice in the whole mod, I hated the voice acting in its whole. Every droid that was voiced just sounded terrible. And ya, it was tedious and boring, worse then Telos.

If you go sith marauder, it's pretty much gg from where you are to the end of the game. They hit ridiculously hard and can pretty much one shot all enemies. I never went heavy armor though, since the robes in that game are really good. For example, Thon's robe gives a force leap ability to you if you're not a jedi guardian. I always go for sentinel/watchman or sith lord since i focus more on force powers and skills.

At what point did Bastila find out you were Revan? She talks about personally picking you for the Endar Spire crew, but later Carth says she "seems like she saw a ghost" in reference to her talking to the council and them presumably telling her you were Revan. So, then why was she involved with picking you? Where was she during the time when Revan was mind wiped?

Is this explained during the reveal later? I'm only halfway through my replay.

Bastilla rescues Revan with Battle Meditation and brings them back to the council when Malak destroys the ship.

So, then why is she surprised you are Revan when the council tells her on Dantooine?

Bastila was there on Revan's flagship when he was nearly killed by Malak. She used the force to save Revan's life so she could bring you back to the Jedi council. She knew who you always were, even on Taris and the Endar Spire. She could feel you through the force because of the bond you and she shared. Force bonds are very powerful and cannot be easily broken. It's something that's heavily explained in the Kotor 2.

Yeah, I always wondered why she didn't recognize Revan during the Taris rescue when she personally asked for you to be assigned to her.

Literally it happens every time they play a game. These people who haven't ever played some of these games, who in all honestly shouldn't be on this board if they haven't, start popping these threads left and right when these e-celebs start playing a game. It's w/e though, at least the children are finally experiencing what others have decades ago. If you want something great kids, go play Planescape Torrment or Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

He was boring but still has closer ties to the Exile than Handmaiden.

She's manipulating you, like all Force users do

>Planescape Torrment

As a youngfag that has never played older RTwP games, are the older games better than the new games like Pillars of Eternity and Tryanny? Those are the only RTwP games I have played and I absolutely hated them.

When she meets with the council in private. Remember that part where the game says "it looks like she's seen a ghost"?

This the most important post in the thread. Droid planet is an entirely negative experience.

I'll admit, DS robes are excellent, I think Aleema Keto's are probably the best non-full caster robes in the game with +4 Wis and +2 Str, perfect for consolar/ marauder build. Of course, Ossus is just top robe. But there has to be a way to get enough armor mitigation to be as effective as a dex build overall, at the very least more effective in raw damage.

Not that user but I always tendto go LS because I'm a sucker for that kinda stuff. Is there any class that has a really good DS storyline?

I enjoyed Planescape immensely more than Pillars of Eternity. What a piece of shit that was. I didn't hate Tyranny though the setting was boring.

Exile sure but it was basically "met younger Exile before".

They were going to be their apprentice.

When I first did m478, I made the mistake of doing dxun right before the m478. Once I found Lonna Vash, I couldn't go back to Onderon to help with the civil war because Kreia somehow thought that I found Kavar. I had to go to dantooine to revisit the masters.

user that was responded to, so far, DS is kill randos slap bitches and break companions. I think in general if you want max "story" you should start sentinal with higher INT. The combat is alright in KOTOR, but alternative solutions always satisfy.

All the robes are trash, get any of the armors that let you use over and underlays, get the energy resist ones for both slots. congrats you are now all but immune to damage from 80% of the enemies in the game.

Even better dont be a bitch and go heavy armor mode for that ablative plating and high defense.

I should give games like Baldur's Gate and Platescape a chance, it's just that stuff like Pillars of Eternity soured my foray into RTwP gameplay. I've seen RTwP vets shit on the games too, so I'm guessing it was just a bad game to play first.

Which never happened, so they didn't even spend much time together.

Disciple met the Exile before she left and wanted to be her apprentice. When a bunch of the Jedi left to fight the Mandalorians, there weren't enough teachers to go around. He dropped out because the one person he wanted to apprentice for was gone, anyways.

Atton has the better backstory, though.

>Remember all those Jedi I tortured and murdered?
>Still whines almost as bad as Carth

Is it me or did they nerf robes hard? I remember KOTOR 1 robes had a Dex bonus pf up to +8 while KOTOR 2 robes didn't have any bonus, just +2 Defence.

I never cared about the stats because the robes in 2 were actual robes instead of whatever the fuck you wear in 1.

Atton had a better reason to whine, the heroes he idolised were persecuted for saving the galaxy.

>Pillars of Eternity and Tryanny?
I couldn't stand pillars but that's my taste. I haven't played Tyranny so I'm not gonna pass judgment, people said they liked it up until the end. If you want to play anything, play Neverwinter nights 2 Mask of the Betrayer (you can skip the main game if you want really but playing it helps you get a handle of controls in these kinds of games) or play Planescape. These games actually have great writing and the story far surpasses anything I've seen. The only problem is that take a bit to get used to and there is a lot of text so you have get used to reading. Now keep in mind there are a lot of ass older games out there but I'm mentioning the gems of the era and if you can pay attention and try hard to immersive yourself into the world, you'll find some of the greatest stories told so far through videogames.

If every Bioware game has the same plot twist than wouldn't not having the plot twist be the plot twist?

It really doesn't matter, the items themselves are almost irrelevant in kotor 2, you can make anything god tier with upgrades.

Storyline, no class really matters. I find DS story more appealing to LS because i find the character's, philosophy, and companions very interesting. Take hanharr for example, He is better than mira by leaps and bounds in both gameplay and story. There's also the issue with Onderon. The light side is to side with Kavar and help Onderon repel the sith and make sure it stays in the Republic. On the other hand, you can side with Vaklu and help Onderon gain independence and help it secede from the republic. To me, being a sith is less about being an edgy psychopath that goes around killing everything and more about thriving on conflict in order to grow as a individual. In that regard, Kreia is definitely more of a sith than a Jedi. I also tend to sacrifice Visas when we fight her master

Is energy resistence the optimal way to go? I recall during an attempt to make Bao Dur not suck as a guardian in medium armor there was a mod that added some 4 flat AC at the cost of dex bonus. Not worth it?

I'm more than happy with lots of reading, that's why I tried out PoE in the first place. I'll go get the games. Should I play both Baldur's Gate games too? And Icewind Dale?

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