I beat dark souls 1, 2 and 3 including dlc for the first time over the past few months...

i beat dark souls 1, 2 and 3 including dlc for the first time over the past few months. ive never participated in dark souls discussion on Sup Forums before for that reason but i do know that this board generally loves dark souls 1 and hates dark souls 2

so obviously i have to make this thread to say that some people here are fucking retarded. dark souls 1 is by far the worst out of the 3 and i have to assume its nostalgiafags who keep praising it. literally the only thing dark souls 1 does better is world design BUT level design is fucking atrocious in every area after lordvessel and dukes archives. level design before that isnt too hot either if you compare it to dark souls 3. the only good thing you can say about dark souls 1, besides world design, is the dlc content and how the final area and final boss in it are really great

dark souls 2 is my favourite so i have to again wonder what kind of retardation infests here. maybe its because i played scholar of the first sin edition and there is a version before that and thats what people hate? or they just hate everything that isnt 1v1? dual wielding weapons against multiple big threats was by far the best experience i had in any of the games. dark souls 3 takes so many of the great changes dark souls 2 made away but its still a good game and easily better than 1. probably just wont replay it though because its very linear despite having best individual level design

literally cant prove me wrong that dark souls 1 is the worst

DS1 desperately lacks an ability to teleport between all bonfires.

it doesnt need one thanks to the world design. not until you have the lordvessel

Ease of use takes the priority. I hated spending minutes running from one place to another one even with a lordvessel.

Yeah the vanilla DaS2 was like not as good as it could have been

I agree that DaS2 sotfs is the best, it adds and improves upon a lot, even QoL/nice touches

>changed the location of the ember so you can unlock infusion earlier and easier
>DLC area keys are now items hidden throughout the game rather than items you start with

It would be the perfect Dark Souls game if
>no soul memory
>movement was freerange and not a soft 8 way run

ADP i didnt mind too much, i could take it or leave it

Dark Souls 2 is an abortion of a game that should never have existed in the first place. Miyazaki's best games are one
off's - Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne. Only retards and faggots think DS2 is a better game. No coherent
lore, gameplay so slow you'd have to be lobotomised to find it challenging and a stupid fucking level up hub "bearer, lest, lest, seek".

DeS = DaS = BB > DaS2 = DaS3

Suck my penor for all i care if you disagree

Played everything, but only base DS2 before patches/DLC and am up to High Lothric in DS3. I really don't get the hate for 2.
I like them all, but 3 needs to tone down the amount of enemies some. Far too many ambushes and enemy groups.

Well no one cares what you hated, faggot.

SoftS inproves a lot, except enemy placement.
Fuck the new enemy placement.

DaS1 > BB > DeS > DaS3 > DaS2

That is also something i could take or leave

I use shields a lot in souls games so usually i can cheese that kind of thing a tad

You know every DS2 hate comment could be a copypasta by now. No real arguements, just
"But it HAS to be bad".

>for the first time over the past few months

Your opinion is invalid.

The segment before warps makes the game feel far more immersive, like a long journey. Warps actually break that immersion, but I bet you’re just a pvp fag who doesn’t care anyway.

hey so check it out guys, I'm a newfag and my opinions are fact

Sorry, but the real order is
DaS=BB>Des>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ds3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>literal shit>>>>>>>>SoTFS>>>>>>>>Ds2 DLC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>having a brain tumour and 6 months to live>>>>>>>>>>vanilla Ds2

DS2 DLC is the best content in the series

>DS2 DLC is the best content in the series

"No!"
Vastly overrated content barely better than the god-awful base game only because fanboys wanted to believe their money wasn't wasted yet again.

Imagine being underage enough to feel proud about being able to beat a mildly difficult game.

You guys are really underestimating the fact that this user is forming opinions without nostalgia goggles, the way i see it, he has less biased views than you can ever hope to have at this point, on this subject

>Ease of use takes the priority

Kill yourself.

I don't get what this webm is supposed to show. The player understands the boss's attacks and the hitboxes are working as intended. I don't think Fume Knight is an amazing boss or anything but you're retarded.

Nice bait, here's your (you)

ease of use? how about being able to level up and use up your souls without having to sit through a fucking loading screen and going to the hub every time? there were shortcuts everywhere in the first half of 1 and there was no reason to need to warp since you could level wherever you wanted

I'm not sure what the point of this webm is, that Fume Knight is easy?

DS2drones claim Fume Knight is one of the best and hardest bosses ever, hoping that nobody else endured the shitty game long enough to see what a slow and easy mess he is

Soz dude, but it literally does not compare to artorias of the abyss in absolutely any capacity, let alone a full masterpiece like DaS or bloodborne. To be honest I think I should have added BB=DaS:PTDE>Artrias of the abyss>DaS
Because artorias of the abyss is pretty much my favourite content in the whole series

Dark Souls 2 being bad is just a meme

Lol what

Comparing to what came before yeah Fume Knight is one of the more difficult bosses, definitely more of a challenge than Artorias.

Yeah, when this many people think it's the worst Soulsborne game it has to be based on nothing.
Garbled lore, slow as shit gameplay, uninspired & rehashed bosses that all require the same basic strategy,
short, pointless levels that are poorly designed & joined together (Earthen Peak-Iron Keep, FFS),
Soul Memory... B b b but no "real" arguments, hurr durr, muh favourite souls game

BB>DaS1>DeS
the rest suck

>speedrunner successfully does a run like you would expect
>wow the entire game is easy

I could pull up a speedrun of LITERALLY ANY GAME and it could make that game look trivial, which is bullshit because that is not the case for most of the people playing

I mean shit mozart played the piano really well and learned with no effort i guess it's just east to play piano guys

>unironically thinking 2 is good.

>i do know that this board generally loves dark souls 1 and hates dark souls 2

But that's wrong you fucking retard

DeS=DaS=BB>DaS3>DaS2

2 is the worst in the series but still a good game

But he is easy and generic. I beat him on my first try because of how slow and predictable his moveset is. It's practically the same as the 30 other big knight guys in that game

Sunken King is trash, only good thing about is the drakeblood armor.
Ivory King and Iron King are nice though

Except sunken is the only DLC with passable level design

DeS>DaS1>BB>Hollow Knight> Cuphead>Nioh>DaS3>Crash remaster>Salt and sanctuary>Lord of the Fallen>The surge>DaS2
Demons souls is best souls, fite me. Also, go look at any critique for dark souls 2, it pans it. It's sluggish, the world design is awful, the enemies suck, the bosses suck. Although, I probably have beaten it the most out of all them because I was into the PvP when it was active, but considering almost every covenant has something to do with online play, my 100% ass was trying to max them out.

Well fucking gee user i guess you're just a god at dark souls then

I dont know what you want to hear, you want a harder game? Go play Ghosts 'n Goblins, beat Snake, or clear the tetris grandmaster trials or some shit, god damn

Chill the fuck out dude, some people just find some bosses easier than others. It's nothing to cut your dick off about.

When you go back and play every game one after the series has ended of course ds1 plays like ass. GTA III plays ia hot garbage compared to SA. But like ds1, GTA III was an amazing experience when it was new. Ds1 was the second rough draft of a great concept that was greatly improved on in the second game. The third game rolled back many of the shitty mechanics of the second game without keeping any of the improvements. Ds3 is the most polished game in the series but BB is the best execution of the core concept so far.

I just sense some unnecessary dissatisfaction is all

There are harder games than dark souls, if DaS is too easy, then yeah, play those other ones

so youre confirming that its just nostalgiafags being fags. thanks

Dark Souls 1 has shitty gameplay, competing for worst in the series alongside DaS2. DaS1 also has the worst mechanics and balance in the series, and the single worst mechanic, Poise.
However, DaS1 has the best world interconnection, the ability to level and upgrade and bonfires as well as the lack of teleportation really lends itself to a sense of adventure, and the game is the most influential. You can't take its strengths away from it, but the gameplay is so much worse then even its predecessor, Demon's Souls, that it's criminally overrated—not surprising as it's wherr many casuals picked up the series.

I agree with every single point here. Clear and concise without rose-tinted glasses.

Anyone who claims DS2 is bad either hasn't played it or are sheep aboard the meme train. Choo choo motherfuckers.

Not necessarily. Ds1 is only shit when you compare it to the games that came later. On it's own, and when viewed on it's own merits ds1 is nearly a flawless game. Every game in the series in nearly flawless when viewed as an individual game. If you've come from the later games of course you'll notice the glaring issues with the games, issues that were fixed in later installments as they should be. GTA SA is objectively a better game than GTA III, but that does name make GTA III a bad game.

So you didn't participate in the progression of the series at all?

DaS1 has it's problems with demon ruins/lost izalith, but everything else in the game was fine. All other areas of the game had meaningful enemy placements, and bed of chaos is the only boss that's terrible. The only other bad thing was that gravelord did not actually work. You weren't there, so you don't realize how lively the game was. You could not go human in anor londo without being invaded. As long as you stayed at certain levels, pvp was a guarantee and greatly increased the longevity of the game. Blue covenant was actually viable in the game since people didn't need to be in the pussy covenant to get your help, and you could still invade people who had been invaders.

DaS2 killed all of that with the arbitrary soul memory mechanic. Good luck finding anyone in this game. Then when you finally get to a good range you have to use a shitty ring in one of your slots to stay there. The game completely abandons the wrapping world design for linear paths instead. They couldn't even do that right, either. Tell me, how do you take an elevator from the top of a windmill and end up in a volcano you can't see from the outside? The least they could have done was make the elevator go down instead of up so it that would make sense. Enemy placement is a boring chore. Everywhere you get swarmed, which is a pain since durability is bugged in all 60fps versions of the game. On that note, the game is heavily balanced in favor of STR weapons. They have higher durability and pretty much every enemy in the game takes more damage from Blunt than any other damage type. DEX weapons might as well not even try. The whole point is you have to hit more times, but then they have shitty durability meaning you can't even beat all the enemies in an area without one breaking.
then there's the bosses. Almost every single one is big guy with sword. IT's boring and it's shit.

Dark Souls 1 has worse objectively worse gameplay then Demon's Souls however. It's weird, they made design choices that actively made the combat worse.

>So you didn't participate in the progression of the series at all?
no which i think makes my assessment on the games as they stand now more objective than people who were heavily involved

>You could not go human in anor londo without being invaded.
i was never a human in dark souls 1 because i didnt want to increase estus and i didnt know you could summon npcs (but if i had known i probably still wouldnt have used them). i dont care about pvp but i did like one covenant in dark souls 3 that allowed you to assist someone being invaded

>DaS2 killed all of that with the arbitrary soul memory mechanic
The thing I despise the most about Dark Souls fans is that they get so fucking melodramatic about minor things.