>old school hardcore shooter >even fucking having the option for ANY amount if fucking auto aim
IF YOU ARE SO SHIT AT SHOOTERS YOU NEED AUTO AIM YOU DONT FUCKING NEED TI PLAY THEM PERIOD THIS IS HORSESHIT AND ITS TOO FUCKING LATE TO GET AS REFUND AUTO AIM SHOULDNT FUCKING EXIST EITHER LEARN TO AIM OR DONT PLAY ANY SHOOTER AT ALL JESUS FUCKING CHRIST CASUAL HORSESHIT
Grayson White
Old school shooters had forced auto aim, dingus.
Brandon Brown
>modern game inspired by and intended to look like an old school shooter >graphics are worse than any old school shooter ???????????????????
Blake Edwards
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Samuel Diaz
only the ones where you couldint aim up or down due to limitations
William Hughes
Every fucking time
Cooper Peterson
Even after they got mouselook, it was still a thing. The completely removal of autoaim in FPS games is a modern inclusion to the genre.
Brandon Myers
Half-Life and Quake also had it. I don't think it was on by default, though.
Jeremiah Jones
yes and no self respecting player would have EVER used it or they would have been laughed at if you somehow cant aim with a mouse you are mentally retarded and should be put into a home
doom had mouse aiming since the first game you useless cum filled gay cunt
William Flores
Underage detected, probably a brutal doom player
Christopher Price
Go and play an old shooter baby boy.
Adam Harris
im 31 and prefer normal doom to brutal doom brutal doom actually makes it easier
Parker Hill
Mouselook isn't the same as mouse movement. Doom let you look side to side and move forwards/backwards with the mouse, but never look up and down. Doom 1 and 2 never had freelook, it was always locked to the x axis.
David Hernandez
SOON™
Austin Foster
the level design is really hit-or-miss in this game
i really want to enjoy it but the environments feel so awkward to move around in
Brayden Nelson
but is Dusk is any fun?
Connor Sullivan
no shit thats why i said mouse aiming and not mouselook fuck stick i am under no obligation to show you even the slightest amount of respect got it?
Ryan Parker
>even more threads of nesfag sucking build engine dick on /vr/ when this gets released no thanks
Chase Foster
It actually has modern graphic options and ways to make it look better. It's just they're off by default and they barely showed it off. I Can't forget the Clown Vomit palette preset option, though
Aaron Williams
it was until i found this bullshit game fucking ruined cause now i know those without skill can still win so there is no point
Samuel Hughes
>Sup Forums defends auto aim now
Nuke this site
Sebastian Lopez
The person you replied to did say mouselook, though. You're both illiterate and mentally unhinged user. Seek help.
Caleb Ward
>Caring what other people do That's homo
Anthony Taylor
What happened to that guy. I didn't see him for ages.
Nathan Watson
There isn't a single post in this thread defending the usage of auto aim.
Xavier Collins
But auto aim is good. It means more people can play.
Gabriel Ramirez
no your homo! you are! im not homo fuck you man how fucking dare you call me homo just cause i love fucking traps in the asshole
Colton Smith
They probably were just doing a shit and run.
Luis Harris
He's still around. There's a Build thread on /vr/ now with him in it still trying to convince people Redneck Rampage was good.
Brandon Robinson
NO ITS FUCKING NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT SHOULPD PLAY ARE THOSE THAT PUT THE EFFORT IN TO LEARN TO FUCKING AIM ANYONE CAN LEARN TO AIM
Ayden Fisher
They're not playing the game
Anyone who uses autoaim needs to kill themselves.
Ethan Evans
I didn't mention traps bro. But when you're almost done with a trap and you've said your No Homo, do you autoaim?
Robert Hill
you need to be over 18 years old to use this site
Benjamin Sanchez
as i already fucking stated im 31
Caleb Ross
>yes and no self respecting player would have EVER used it or they would have been laughed at if you somehow cant aim with a mouse you are mentally retarded and should be put into a home Okay, so don't use it in Dusk. See, there's the option
Jackson Allen
Redneck Rampage? That shit was even worse than Dusk
Kevin Powell
>option >as in optional I could argue that if you're younger than a game or genre you shouldn't play either. It'd make as much sense. Don't use it. Simple as that. Maybe grow up a bit while you're at it.
Joseph Lopez
hey fuck you, Redneck Rampage was a lot of fun
Sebastian Ross
That's like saying people who play on Easy aren't playing the game.
Zachary Diaz
Autoaim jars the shit out of me, regardless of skill implication. I can tell when a game has it on by default, because it feels like the game is fighting me for the controls. And when its not 'aiming for you' but changing the fire direction, I get disoriented by the fact the cursor doesn't mean anything.
Colton Sanders
>31 you got the digits reversed
Brody Johnson
are are not playing the game at least LEAST medium difficulty
Zachary Foster
That would be an accurate statement, though.
Benjamin White
>a key >another key >yet another key No, fuck you. RR sucked.
Cameron Richardson
Do you also get triggered over easier difficulty levels which essentially serve the same purpose?
Yes, it might be the first game ever that properly manages to ape all those classic FPS titles
Leo Parker
no i am thirty one years of age
Colton Cruz
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James Morales
>cause now i know those without skill can still win so there is no point The point is playing a game and having fun while doing it?
You're not actually special because you beat le hard game user, literally thousands of people can beat hard games legetimatly.
Connor Wilson
Whatd did Doom and Quake and the like do better with 'find the key'?
Jace Roberts
no the point is to fucking win thats all there is no other point but to win if ytou are not winning you are NOT having fun mistakes and failure are bad and should be avoided risks are not a thing to take
Alexander Perry
Because who gives a shit? Its never gonna be in multiplayer and I'm never gonna use it. Who gives a shit what some retard does to ruin their own experience?
Literally what is the problem?
Grayson Anderson
If the whole point is to win why wouldn't you use every advantage given to you? Like, ya know, auto aim?
James Hernandez
Put an indicator on the doors as to what key you're supposed to use instead of just telling you the door is locked and giving you three non-descript keys in levels open enough to encounter all three doors before you find any keys forcing you to backtrack through everything until you find where you're supposed to go.
Caleb Roberts
i honestly haven't played it since i was ~8 but it was fun then.
Austin Brooks
wow my genuine female pussy is so wet right now after reading this post
Jace Evans
Better level design. RR just didn't get it. Keys are just another tool to design an interesting level, but you need a clever design to make it work.
See E4M1
Jack Cruz
>be bad at fps games but like shooting and moving around things >game has autoaim and it lets me rape everything >makes me feel good about myself >other people can disable it completely
why do you care exactly? It's not multiplayer.
Josiah Gutierrez
And isn't jumping right into the highest possible difficulty risky? They usually have something different from the normal game, too.
Charles Smith
its not really winning if the game helps you
Jack Smith
Your use of videogames to fake personal success is very dishonest. If you yearn for actual accomplishing something, go outside and do something that isn't as easy and brainless as beating a video game.
Your view of winning would make me suggest going to a professional, you seem to have a chemical imbalance.
Ayden Cox
So picking up ammo and health is a no-no too? They're put there to help you as well.
David Carter
>Make an "old school shooter" with all the old school shitty mechanics and quirks and none of the new learned good stuff
Why would anyone play this crap
Tyler James
I thought that E4M1 was almost universally regarded as meh because it was obvious that they were just throwing shit at the wall in that level. Or was that E4M2? I forget.
Ryan Ross
no they are part of resource management which is part of the game same as aiming
Julian Morgan
Nostalgia is a powerful thing. Literally, its impossibly hard to not form biases based on this bullshit its so fucking infuriating how dumb the brain is.
Joshua Myers
What new things in shooters are good?
Dylan Lopez
there is nothing to accomplish in life and no where to do it in this SHIT "city" i live in
Dominic Wright
I don't get the hate for E4. It's my favourite episode
Care to name the shitty mechanics and the good stuff? I'm curious.
Jackson Wood
New FPS games are objectively bad. The old ones were better on every level.
Chase Watson
This is your problem user, you have built a wall and your only comfort is brainless, riskless activity. A man who would seek out personal accomplishment would leave his city, take the risk and play the game differently.
Gabriel Turner
>impossibly hard to not form biases It's really not.
Luis Foster
E4 isn't a bad episode at all. It's just the first two levels are rough because it doesn't have the tight level design as the rest of the episode or even the rest of the original doom.
Kevin Richardson
Best 'game' I ever played was SuperBetter. That thing needs to spread.
Julian Reyes
Better overlays New 3D modellers and modelling techniques Balance and modding high res textures no fucking headbobbing colors that have been invented since 1996 other than shit brown scales Skyboxes and their use
Anything that doesn't look like total ass
Jordan Barnes
A lot of the old ones were shit too. In fact, the majority of them were shit. Whenever people talk about old FPS games, they always bring up the comparatively small handful regarded as the best and never talk about garbage like Dr. Radiaki, Radix or Corridor 7.
Camden Rogers
Doesn't make any sense because difficulty is not standardised across games > Easy difficulty in Dungeon of the Endless is the hardest difficulty
Parker Peterson
None of that sounded like gameplay and most of those can be done with source ports.
Lucas Gomez
if i could leave this city i would and go back to Washington state but i wouldnt have work or a place to live there so its not an option and i REFUSE to go on disability
Adam Turner
>Better overlays >New 3D modellers and modelling techniques If you are talking about level construction, something that bugs me it's that modern tools don't use brushes anymore, it's just predefined assets. You can edit these assets at some extent, but the results are far for what you can make with brushes.
I'm not saying is a proper tool for modern games, but it really feels different. Not better, different
Jonathan Taylor
Is this the "Fun is just a buzzword" of 2018?
Liam Smith
Heretic had up and down aiming and still had autoaim. This applies to almost every FPS of the 90s.
Jeremiah Phillips
Its a good game, the core is done well. My only beef is the enemy variability and the gore, since they are using simple graphics they could go crazy with it.
Landon Reed
That's true, but irrelevant. There were good and bad old FPS games coming out at the time. Now there are only bad FPS games coming out, except the rare few which just copy Quake in every way that matters.
Connor Perez
who cares lmao, this game is shit anyway. >shitty weapon balance >arenas feel like theyre designed for autistic casuals Gggmanlives uploaded a review for this game and completed two whole episodes, its a proof that this game isnt really hard at all
Blake Phillips
>there were good and bad then >there's bad now, but also good You took all that time to literally say nothing.
Jaxson Williams
All the screenshots I see of this game look like shit, like the indie interpretation of "retro" games is that they were all intentionally ugly blob shit instead of making the most out of their limits.
Caleb Richardson
There's a difference between autoaim and aim assist you fucking bitch ass. Can't believe nobody called you out on this. Autoaim is what old ass FPS games had where you can be off with your aiming but it will still hit an enemy. Aim assist is what console shooters use to automatically position your crosshair onto your enemies.
Jackson Morgan
Except he has a perfectly valid point and you're just stupid. There were good and bad FPS games back then, but all modern FPS games now are bad except the ones that intentionally try to be retro. It means first person shooters have gotten worse.
Aiden Gomez
they are both bad though
Carter Parker
If you can't understand when someone is being ironic online you shouldn't be allowed near a computer.
Ryan Edwards
This I've seen a lot of normies stream this and beat the first couple of levels without dying, screeching normily about how quake and doom is their favorite games.
Hudson Hernandez
IIRC Quake's autoaim is automatically disabled if you enable fulltime mouse look.