Name a better Spy loadout

Name a better Spy loadout
>Protip: You fucking can't

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>no dead ringer

Good you’re not cancer

remove the hat and it's perfect

...

not really
it gives people the idea that you're a new player who happens to own L4D2 so they get cocky and don't expect you to use your revolver or bait them
the gibus has become a meme hat, people start assuming you're an ironic new player more and more

>Not cloak and dagger

makes sense

>No YER

revolver is real good though

everyone's mind is so distracted by all the visual puke and fast paced action that I doubt they consider your gear

Cloak and dagger instead of invis watch and unironically fedora

>using the Im going to stay invisible the entire match and do nothing and dagger

spy cicle is a literal upgrade over stock
>Goal is to cause team wide paranoia and the ice statues do that wonderfully. If you see 4 of these near each other you know not to focus on the enemy team.
>can help you escape the lucky flare, pyro spray, or even give you temp flame immunity to revolver down a pyro
>can rescue your already weak ass from afterburn death

Meme items that only ruin gameplay, I was surprised how much fun the Spy was when I switched back to stock after years of using these.

>cant backstab while running away from a pyro that hit you
nah m8 nah

>no letranger

It must be a really good upgrade if the only downside is not being able to get a suicide kill with the knife and having to get a suicide kill with the revolver instead.

>change revolver for uzi
>change knife for uzi hit
>change watch for hack
>change sape for emp ult
>make him a spicy slut
done.

>20% damage penalty

l'etranger
knife
cloak and dagger

I'm bad at spy

I've wore gibus since 2012 and I've yet to see anyone giving a fuck about it

I'm a fan of the l'etranger myself but I readily accept that I'll need an extra shot to kill off people
Alternatively I am a fan of the diamondback for those pistol kills
But statistically, stock set is best

>no l'etranger
>hat
die

>no gibus
>no mercenary badge
>no pyrovision
fucking plebs

What is this Letranger meme? It's possibly one of the worst revolvers in the game.
>b-but muh cloak!
Cloaking is long enough the way it is, the 20% damage penalty is not worth it.

Do people actually play this game unironically still?

>F2P garbage
>Hackers running rampant
>Nobody goes for objectives and every gamemode is just a deathmatch
>Engie, Spy, Pyro and Heavy are only good against retards and are horrible characters in any other circumstance
>Scout, Soldier and Medic have always been extremely overpowered while also being laughably easy to play
>Still runs horribly despite being an 11 year old game and graphics have to be further downgraded just to facilitate all of new cosmetics they add
>Valve has all but abandoned support but rather than keep the game in a semi-pristine condition, they continue to throw in bad outsourced community weapons constantly
>Is now trying and failing to rip off Overwatch, adding a joke of a competitive mode
>Practically invented lootboxes and e-gambling but Sup Forums will blame Overwatch for this

Its fun

That extra cloak time is sometimes all I need to snatch up a bit of metal and extend my time for the perfect positioning to take both of the combo rather than just the pocket

dead ringer is actually well balanced now

:^⟩

Revolvers are for picking off low health targets. That 20% drop means jack shit when youre only going for people that are below 50 health. Use the diamondback if you want to be a fucking idiot and shoot people with full/high health instead of stabbing them. The cloak increase is a HUGE benefit for navigating high populated areas and will get you anywhere you need to be.

not really, it was pretty balanced before
i feel like the speedboost is way cheaper than damage reduction
also why does valve treats dead ringer like THE weapon against pyros?

Im no pro, but the current Spy build you have no reason to use stock revolver. L'etrange is amazing that it gives you so muxh free cloak its crazy. Not just that, if you shoot an enemy it refills 15% of cloak back- and, mind you, it even refills the Dead Ringer charge despite ammo packs not.
If you dont need the extra cloak/cloak regen, you have no excuse not to use the Diamondback- it literally gives you free crits for doing what you do in the first place. If you have some charges in place taking on a engineer in his sentry nest or just 1v1ing a pyro or soldier became fucking piss easy. 100 damage shots, no clip size reduction like Frontier Justice, and doesnt even have crit falloff like the Amby does.

how the fuck
is diamondback
still
not
NERFED

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You don't have to shill papaBlizzard we all know your esport division is a disaster but we still love you

This
Damage be damned, the extra cloaking is godly

Everyone is too busy using the letranger or the ambassador

>Sup Forums will blame Overwatch for this
actually pretty much everybody complains about the fact that ow has lootboxes in a game you already payed 40$ for, not that it invented them, altho ow did popularize them, can't argue against that

>No arguments as usual
I'm glad you're still having """""fun""""" in your watered down quake clone that Valve still sodomizes for shekels 6-7 years after its expiration date when millions of better team shooters exist.

>used S Diamondback religiously before buff
>now all those kills look like cheap shit
Kill me

>Dead ringer
Fuck you for everything you fucking stand for.

Your mother

no you

Waiter, my pastas stale

It's so good, but I never see anyone use it. You just get free crits for playing spy.

>>No arguments as usual
Why would I give an argument to a shill?

>Lootboxes the game gives you for free at regular intervals that exclusively contain cosmetics that don't alter or enhance gameplay at all
>Can also buy whatever cosmetic you want directly with in-game currency

VS

>Lootboxes that require you to purchase keys for $2.49 USD to open that MIGHT contain a cosmetic or a worthless weapon worth 1 scrap metal
>Cosmetics that """"drop"""" extremely rarely and are worthless anyway thanks to the addition of unusual effects that are lootcrate exclusive
>Even having weapons locked behind a grindwall/paywall/RNGwall in the first place

Also, OW didn't popularize the practice. TF2 and CSGO did and OW just jumped aboard.

>unusual chapeau
>dead ringer
>but no jojo references in renames
>and no lime/pink/gold paint
Strange little fella.

How do I use the DR lads? I cant get behind enemy lines if I cant cloak
Nobody relies on disguises working that well

You know you don't have to buy lootboxes, blizzshill?

>>Even having weapons locked behind a grindwall/paywall/RNGwall in the first place
>buy key for $2.49
>go to scrap.tf
>get every weapon in the game with tons left over for some decent cosmetics
lol!

You don't have to buy lootboxes in OW, either. The entirety of the game's weapons are available from the start and cosmetics do nothing.

You can't get an unusual hat in TF2 from just playing. You will probably not even get more than one or two regular hat drops over hundreds of hours of playing TF2.

You know hats aren't essential to the game, blizzshill?

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Can you trickstab? What are your best and worst?
I can corner fine, but suck at matadors and circlestabs. Weird, huh?

Neither do the cosmetics in OW. The only difference is that lootboxes in OW don't require you to pay money to unlock, and buying an specific cosmetic without paying won't take hundreds of hours of your life away like it does in TF2. Lootboxes are shit but TF2/CSGO really goes above and beyond to fuck you in the ass with them.

Also, calling me a shill because I'm not part of the "DAE HATE POPULAR GAEM???" hivemind on Sup Forums doesn't make your argument any less retarded.

>post porn spray
>equip cloak and dagger
>wait in the corner

oldest strat in the book, works 100% consistent to this day because only incels play TF2

I had one where it switches pictures depending on how close the player is to the spray. It would say "FYI I am the spy" when you got close.
I also later adopted the same concept with a spray of the Peach/Bowser changing portraits from Mario 64.

>My game is better because I have better cosmetics
Pretty sure you're a shill.

>I had one where it switches pictures depending on how close the player is to the spray.
Care to post them?

>"DAE HATE POPULAR GAEM???" hivemind on Sup Forums
People hate overmeme because the game is casual horseshit designed for a MOBA audience that doesn't even like shooters. Makes literally no difference to me if its popular or not

Im not home now, if thread is still up when I get back I will.

>the game is casual horseshit
TF2 is even more casual than OW buddy. Why do you think they got rid of everything from TFC that actually required skill or strategy? What happened to grenades and bunny hopping??

At least in OW, there's some level of coordination and teamwork. TF2 is just a hat showcase deathmatch with the occasional 11 year old heavy in boxing gloves taunting with everyone

>e-gambling
It really is funny that i never thought of it as gambling before the csgo shit
It just felt like a fun economy at the time.

>what happened to grenades and bunny hopping
>bunny hopping
but, nothing happened to bunny hopping?
it's still there, it's just not so good like in tfc
if it was good like in tfc, it would ruin the whole tempo of the game

Never being seen until you're in the killcam is the most potent way to get away with murder time and again.
If you need to use your gun for self defense, you already got caught.
Personally I'm fond off the L'Etranger, Conniver's Kunai, Invis Watch combo. Never get seen until it's too late and you're skirting away with enough health to survive anyone who may have been watching. Just don't ever get caught before you get the ball started and you're golden.

I only use C&D to explore maps, once I get the map down and know it's tricks, then I switch to invis watch. Mobility is important.

Default spy set up is fine, though I would argue that Red Tape Recorder is fine too if you're dealing with multiple engies as it's near impossible to straight up kill them so it's better to downgrade and make it easier for your team to kill it.

>grenades
>Taking strategy
No, they were annoying as fuck and retards would spam it everywhere. TFC was a shit game in general, QWTF is much better.

I haven't played for a while now, did they kill the Ambassador? I heard they were going to decrease its accuracy but that's it.

I found out sprays are stored in a temp folder, so I just look in there if somebody had something good.

>At least in OW, there's some level of coordination and teamwork.
OH NO NO NO

Don't bother with the DR, its been gutted to uselessness.
Git better at spy, learn the maps and which maps Spy is garbage on

Can anyone explain to me why the dead ringer is cancer now? It used to be real fucking easy to play around.

It's always been cancer, they've just finally neutralized it to the point where it's no longer malignant cancer.

You can't pick up ammo kits while cloaked when equipped with the Dead Ringer.

that's because the economy wasn't solved and the fact that hats could be worth hundreds-thousands wasn't widespread knowledge. now, the economy prices are all but set and you get put on some blacklist if you so much as think of giving someone an offer below the all-knowing scrap.tf database.

no, it's gone. you can use it to maneuver a very select few niche jumps but once you go over the hard momentum cap, you actually get SLOWER than just walking.

>No, they were annoying as fuck and retards would spam it everywhere
>WAAAAAAAH STOP GRENADING ME!!!! STOP CONC JUMPING INTO MY FLAG ROOM AND IGNORING MY TURRET!!!!

No argument, just spout memes. Typical TF2 argument strategy.

>grenades
>skill
>strategy

also, you just made me realize how tf2 has both better competitive gameplay AND casual gameplay

here is the factual best spy loadout
they changed it at some point so that afterburn didn't stick with them, and they couldn't be ignited for a while afterwards, as well as gaining a speedboost

>Expecting an argument when you're shilling this hard

>>WAAAAAAAH STOP GRENADING ME!!!! STOP CONC JUMPING INTO MY FLAG ROOM AND IGNORING MY TURRET!!!!
That's what a non-retard would do. I'm talking about fags spamming it on the bridge of 2fort, thinking it would prevent the enemy team from crossing.

>valve competitive tf2:
>clusterfuck matchmaking where ranks mean absolutely nothing
>third-party competitive tf2:
>community that has been dying for years and is pretty much a joke even within the actual tf2 community

Diamond back

pretty cool cosmetics but color balancing is off
have you tried team spirit on hat of cards?

Yeah, I hate grenades. TF2 is much better without them because now all 2fort games always devolve into eternal stalements of engie nests in the flag room!

Nobody is going to buy your shitty game, blizzard. Try to balance your own game instead of wasting money on shills, which will only make people hate the game even more.

not bad, i think i like it unpainted since it makes the aloha stand out more, but it's definitely something to consider

Superman

Well considering it sold better than TF2 ever did, I would have to say you are pretty wrong about that my good man.

Any class can counter a sentry, there is no need for grenades.

And what about the active players? Oh wait.

>Any class can counter a sentry
Yeah if you have a medic pocketing you the entire time

Otherwise the only answer to an engie nest is demoman

Cloack and Dagger on defense is way better than stock.

I like both Overwatch and TF2, but I really like TF2 a lot more. Maybe it's just because I've been playing it for 10 years or because the vaccinator is so fun, but I find it a lot more enjoyable than Overwatch. At least in TF2 if my team is garbage it's still very possible to carry.

>the only answer to an engie nest is demoman
And a soldier and a good spy and literally every other class

> Not the quäckenbirdt
It's a pretty good spy though

Same thing except with letranger

>Nest
Soldier can't shoot shit behind corners without getting raped 17 ways and spy is just an overall worthless class and will just get destroyed in 3 shotgun-wrench hits hits as soon as he saps his first building

If you don't understand why l'Etranger is great, you don't understand how important is being invisible for a Spy.
I bet you have too much confidence in disguises.

>Tfw these blizzshills covinced me to buy overmeme
Worst 30 bucks I have ever spend