Why did Sup Forums stop hating phone games?

Why did Sup Forums stop hating phone games?

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Because we managed to reach a point where gacha games are less cancerous than huge multimillion dollar budget games. Phone games aren't great and are pretty fucking jewish at times BUT they are free to play. This used to be the worst but now some AAA games have you pay $60 to play the equivalent of a phone game with worse balancing and less content with a super slow stream of updates on top of gacha (lootbox) shit.
>tl;dr - Basically x is still shit but y has managed to surpass x's shittiness that x actually looks kind of alright now

くだらねえスレたてんな

>stop
for fucks sake is just One Person
now go back to your general

It has seibah now

yeah, sucking NASU's cock for all disservice he makes is sure pretty good, because at least it's """free""", am I right?

>Stop

Nope, it just redditors who don't undestand how irony works.

>Fuck I'm an old man now and have a job
>Fuck office work involves a lot of doing shit all and waiting for boomers to make up their minds
>Fuck I haven't seen any anime titties in hours, this is horrible

And then Sup Forums started playing phone games.

>but now some AAA games have you pay $60 to play the equivalent of a phone game with worse balancing and less content

What fucking "balancing"? I've never heard of a Gachashit game suffering from poor balance. In fact, it's pretty standard practice for devs to powercreep the characters as time passes to encourage the whales to keep spending. Also most AAA games, for all their shit, are at least serviceable games when you strip away the microtransaction shit. I'd never play BF2 or CoDWW2 in my life but I can see how someone can have fun with a shooter. With the exception of maybe the rhythm games none of this phone garbage "gameplay" has any intrinsic value without the carrot on the stick that is gacha. GBF and FGO are shitty RPGs by even SNES standards.

So, basically, you are saying phone games are for adults?

Waifus. That's about it.

>GBF and FGO are shitty RPGs by even SNES standards.
WRONG
There's not a single RPG from SNES with the level of writing and content of FGO

>with the level of writing and content of FGO
Sure if you mean there isn't one that's as bad as FGO.

They're the ones with money yes.

The grind in gbf is pretty fun and satisfying though.

oh really? here comes Type-Moon's defence force?
look, you're comparing your... """game""" with ones from a 20+ years Console
how about those fuckers release another VN, huh?

They're still working on the Tsukihime remake.

>Buying mobile games

i tried to like phone games years ago but theyre all fucking monstrously boring
i still despise phone games

Because it's okay when Nintendo does it.

The basic problem is that hate without anything positive is unproductive and when it goes up against a fundamentally unchangeable fact it inevitably turns to hate sex and "oh I'm only doing it IRONICALLY :^)" shit. Sup Forums always shat on 100% of phone games on principle just like you OP, despite the fact that have been super fun good phone games (both original and of course lots of good ports/remasters). There was no support or differentiation between good games and the mostly bad ones, just
>mobile implying XD
So naturally good games mostly died out and gambling succeeded because it's fucking gambling and always works. But mobile is still super convenient and fundamentally solid hardware with a massive base, so popular IPs with good art design and shit even if the games were shallow fucking p2w garbage moved there. And in turn Sup Forums followed.

Well done you contrarian faggots.

hope you'll be long lived user

cus grandblue fantasy is amazing and has nobuo uematsu? duh?

Can't speak for anyone else but I never hated them. They're fun sometimes and they give me something to do when I'm too bored to jerk off or play real video games. Also, anime tits.

>not buying good mobile games
>gee why are all mobile games that succeed shit??????

I found out how to play them on my computer, and since Nasu isn't writing for anything else at the moment, I figured that I might as well see what F/GO is about. I don't believe the lies about the Tsukihime remake being worked on.

It's not a matter of stop hating

There was no hate to begin with other than Capcom,Sega and Konami's lazy attempts

There are a lot of cool ones out there

WHERE'S SEASON 4

PATCH IMMORTICIA'S BATS ALREADY

>Paying microtransactions = Buying mobile games.

You don't deserve manage money.

Cause it pandered to them.

Add waifus and 90% of Sup Forums suddenly loses their ability to recognize anything negative about the game.

>buying games
>the same thing as microtransactions
I sure hope you're just pretending to be retarded you filthy shitter.

Phone games were always good.

>Calls out user as shitter.
>On a thread about fucking mobile games.

Granblue made the leap to ps4,
Puzzle X Dragons is on 3ds
They are not the issue anymore.

in the end he only said the truth
there is no need for this thread, it was a thinly veiled try for a Fa/gGOts thread

>le ebin mobile games are bad maymay
Your cancer will forever be irritating.

MonHun was never good. Not even try to meme.

The girls became too cute to resist.

Millenials moving in

I hate gachapon and loot boxes. If I spend money on a micro transaction I want to pick what I want.

Ports don't count nigger.

>ghost trick: phantom detective
>appeared on NDS
>ported to mobile
>considered mobile
Words cannot describe
Just HOW ANGERY I AM!!

Then you are objectively an autistfag user, sorry to be the one to have to break that to you. "Not good" is not the same as "I don't like it" unless, again, you have actual for real autism of some kind and are simply incapable of evaluating things that way.

I completely understand if MonHun or any of that type of thing aren't your game, I have lots of whole genres I'm not a fan off. But it has a lot of entries that are objectively well made, and the MHFU mobile remaster was also objectively really well done. Purely improved visuals with no fuckery, smooth, full controller support, great LAN support, all content there, and it's been maintained too.

Even if you don't like that one, if a phone/tablet can play it well then they can play any other game ever made for consoles well too. It's not a hardware problem. The problem is the market.

Multiplats absolutely count, in mobile or on anything else, particularly when they're improved over the original. Most major titles are multiplats at this point, and for platforms devs aren't sure about they're a good way to test the waters and see if further development and support is justified.

>turns out that mobile games are good
>they are either console or handheld ports
ARRRGGHHH!!

MonHun isn't a mobile game. Same for GT nad TWEWY.

>The problem is the market.
Truth from a mobilefag, that's a nice change. 10/10

You can tell who the people that hate phone games are. They're either sad, lonely and pathetic individuals with no job, future and career or underage.

Phone games are made for the successful working man who needs some entertainment on the fly while making money.

>MonHun isn't a mobile game. Same for GT nad TWEWY.
They're games that are on mobile user. That makes them mobile games, that's literally how it works. They're not gachashit or TOWAR_DEFENSE#913465131473 or whatever either, but the remasters for mobile are mobile games.

Seriously what the fuck, "mobile game" is not a genre. It's no different then the PC or consoles, the version for a given platform is the version for that platform and can be good or bad depending on whether the platform can handle it. The point is that mobile games can be really good, despite how Sup Forums acts as if they can't be. There are original ones that are pretty solid too (at least for indie early stuff), like the earlier mentioned Wayward Souls or Badland or Osmos or Brightridge or whatever. The problem is that real gamers didn't actually buy them, and largely the blame for that falls on Apple and Google who in my opinion should ban all vidya from their stores and turn it over to GOG, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, and Valve.

But it never helped that places like Sup Forums would actively fight having threads that would have helped people discover what good games their were and just shitpost it with memes. Now you bitch about it all being gacha p2w garbage but that is literally the world you helped choose.

And yeah I'm still kind of bummed it turned out this way. Sony is dead in handheld and Nintendo are lazy pieces of shit who saddle us with ancient garbage hardware for outrageous prices for ages. The situation sucks but it didn't have to suck quite as badly as it does.

Literally "It is okay when Nintendo does it".

Before they went in on the cake that shit was sent to /vg/ with only the occaisonal shill thread, now all i need to say is "is a FEH thread ever NOT up?".

By that retarded logic a Playstation game emulated on PC would make it a PC game.

PC Gamers might as well fall in this category user since they are unsellable once bought....

Unless you sell it to some newfag sucker.

>Taiga will never look at you like this

At least use a phone game that isn't a port to justify the mobile cesspool
Like Fastlane, gems of war and mobile exvius.
Not TWEWY, GT and Monhun have some respect for the dead, dormant or successful up that made success on other systems, not just mobile.

>emulated
No, but a remaster of a Playstation game to the PC is definitely a PC game, it's the PC version of that game, and vice versa. Since the PC is vastly superior to a playstation ports have a higher likelihood of being ok in that direction, but it's still not guaranteed. People will shit on it if the framerate is horrible or it has no graphics options or it doesn't respect PC conventions for controls or whatever. It won't affect opinion of the original. Just a PC games ported over, all the way back to the original PS1 when they were often hilariously gimped or altered to work, don't reflect on the PC versions.

If you want to be angry about multiplats in general, well, you're in good company on this board for sure, but that's not a "mobile" thing it's the rule these days. Mobile hardware is fucking powerful and drives better screens then full home consoles did last gen and can support the same controls. We could have more good games if we wanted them, that's the point.

>They're either sad, lonely and pathetic individuals with no job, future and career or underage.

Makes you think when it was in Asia were mobile market exploded.

What are you on about?

モバゲーは癌だ
それは確か

>justify the cesspool
Nobody is doing that though. I'm not trying to excuse how much shit there is, the entire point is that I DON'T WANT there to be so much shit. But if the only people who buy are those who cheerfully eat shit then guess what, that's what gets made, because devs need to eat and management needs new ferraris for their collections. There are far fewer serious gamers then normies, so if they just shit on an entire platform, one that is both powerful, convenient, and the largest in the history of humanity, guess what happens? I mean, you don't need to guess because we're living it.

>The situation sucks but it didn't have to suck quite as badly as it does
Are you a newfag?
Do you have any modicum of understanding how the handheld space has operated and how mobile has effectively wiped out another dedicated handheld (unless Sony can fucking compete)

>not mentioning best gacha game

I'm a switch, not a mobilefag
I use mobile for entertainment purposes and don't at all game anywhere but my Nintendo switch.

How to fix mobile:
1. Actually try to find and support good mobile games if you haven't already.
2. Lobby your representatives to support legislation banning electronic gambling the same way we do the real stuff.
3. Try to get antitrust regulators (yurops have the best hope here) to force Apple and Google to get out of vidya themselves and let gog/valve and the console plat guys run their own dedicated vidya stores instead.

That should reshape the market.

>Tfw only bought Mobile Humble Bundles and the Shadowrun games, King of Dragon pass, Banner Saga, Max Payne and Bard's Tale.

Feels good to only support good games.
I wish there were more 'casual' games I could play on the subway that didn't suck though.

What's the game on the left supposed to be?

Also, daily reminder to support Six Ages when it finally comes out if you want mobile games not to suck.

sixages.com/blog/

Cinderella Girls: Starlight Stage, an Idolmaster rhythm game pretty good actually.

>The awkward moment when you realize switch is Mobile tier.


How to fix mobile:

1 Nuke it.

That's it, otherwise it will go to shit again because millenials will think of it as game platform thinking the entertainment software on it are game and some corporate suits will develop ways to milk it down.

Sincerely, a DL player.

>not in english
Fuck

Good shit user, congrats on your good taste.

>I wish there were more 'casual' games I could play on the subway that didn't suck though.
Have you tried BADLAND or Osmos? They're decent and would fit the bill in terms of quicker chunks play (though they can be reasonably challenging in some later stages if you're trying to do well). Hyperburner is ok in that respect too.

I'd have suggested CAVE games previously, they were as awesome as ever and the ports were better then they had any right to be. Unfortunately those seem to all be dead now. Feels bad man.

Tell me again how many people keep playing Pokemon GO.

>hurrdurr nuke it xd
Sorry user, I was actually being serious not meme'ing.

That's because Nintendo does it better? I talk about their own games at least, Pokemon GO was a wasted potential.

>The awkward moment when you realize switch is Mobile tier.
The switch is just like DS in that regard, however Nintendo have some Quality Assurance unlike the mobile counterparts...

You're not going to let that stop you.

Give this user a medal

>Why did Sup Forums stop hating phone games

they got good

I am actually, i'm extremely lazy. Probably doesn't have the original girls anyway so no best girl Makoto

>good
>mobile

pick one retard.

who plays duel links?

>being a nigger, spic or underage
yikes.

Reminder that NA version of Bang Dream launches this sprint (probably in March)
youtube.com/watch?v=Vr8MBo2wqqM

>do I fit in yet?
wew

...

>Also, daily reminder to support Six Ages when it finally comes out if you want mobile games not to suck.
Had not heard about this but it looks good. Thanks user. This is the sort of thing that'd be easier to find out if Sup Forums had threads on good mobile games once in a while.

I like cute girls

If Makoto and the rest of 765 is what you want, then there's Million Live: Theather Days, though not as good as Starlight Stage in my opinion.

>That's because Nintendo does it better?

Next Dark GW is gonna be fun

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>Force Apple and Google out of the market and give it to the company that already has a monopoly on PC

Wow, user, that's an amazing idea! How many minutes did you study business?

I've been getting into it a bit lately, I'm also new to YGO in general so I don't have a deck and haven't done any PvP. I'm just trying to buy all the necessary staples for now based on a guide.

Animal Crossing Pocket Camp is actually good, especially for a F2P game.

More like the console market equalized to mobile tier quality
Still, Switch is in great position to capitalise on all 3 markets.
Duel links is actually a great way to play yugioh, it was getting unbelievably complex.

Post Yuuki.

DS? No way, it was "underpowered" and looked non-traditional for "us gaymers". Handheld games are real games instead of mobile.

Nobody is memeing here

Hi, not being a retard to use real money of f2p. It is nice fun here and there, metafags aside.

What did she mean by this?

I don't have it, I asked for Momoka a while back.

I hit an obvious paywall and stopped

at this my only one is FGO

Agreed. Just picked up Zooey so I need to quickly switch to a claw grid