Any DDDA players around? How rough is Bitterblack Isle in your opinion?
Lvl 70 Assassin pure physical build. Can clear the Everfall with ease now, but I've read that BBI is x100 times harder. Also that there are a lot of enemies immune to physical dmg, which is gonna be... interesting.
What lvl did you run it successfully? Any tips?
BBI is something you just keep doing, theres lots of stuff in there and some nice gear you can by poking about. Don't worry if you come up against something you dont think you can win, just leave it till later.
I killed death by drowning it to water, some bombs or high knockback weaponry might be necessary, you'll level up pretty fast. As expected be aware with which class you'll be leveling
I headed in, ran into some good 'ol goblins thinking this ain't so bad, then pic related showed up from nowhere, did fuck all dmg to him, ran away.
I'll just keep booking it when he, or similar show up then.
Bitterbutt isle is only difficult until you start using periapts.
If you're an assassin you can cheese it with blast arrow fivefold flurry, otherwise you're generally supposed to run from it until you get really strong.
Also, post pawns/arisens
Leave too OP stuff till later, bombs and high knockback weaponry, use periapts.
Thanks lads!
i literally restarted at lvl117 becas my character was doing literally 0 damage against everything. I even tried pendants and everything. I used to liked this game but BBI is retarded when you can oneshot everything in vanilla then cant even deal damage in BBI. Also no one would give me a proper answer as to why.
Did you suddenly change classes while in BBI or something? Are you at least using the weapons the Dragon gives you? Upgrade your shit or something
BBI enemies are tricky as fuck. The reason you ate shit might have been that your character was too magic oriented or too physical oriented, which is not good. Gotta keep it balanced. Also, BBI is full of endless pits, gotta use those to trick larger enemies, you can't kill everything just fighting.
Yeah, gonna be tough without magic...
Listen, those annoying lantern enemies, you let them control one of your pawns and then you attack it.
Those rabid dogs things are the worst at first, but they get easier with weapons you find from chests and stuff. Try using Rusty Daggers, they are susceptible to Slow which makes them easier.
If you see Death, run.
Don't attack the Chained Cyclops. The most annoying enemy in the game. Wait until you're stronger.
Beware the Minotaurs. They have instakill moves, when you're on the ground they'll try to stomp on you. They have lots of sweeping attacks and charges. Fight them like a true speedster.
Light is your friend, always mind your footing and avoid the water.
Some chests are Mimics, stay alert. Also some small poisonous enemies hide in shallow water sections so be prepared.
Danger is at every turn user, so watch out.
Man, that sounds shitty. What class/classes did you go with? I'm kinda worried about skipping out on magic all together thus far, but I feel it's too late to start switching it up now.
I guess you could technically hire some OP pawn and cheese it that way, but takes away from the too tho.
>Did you suddenly change classes while in BBI or something? Are you at least using the weapons the Dragon gives you? Upgrade your shit or something
everything i had was dragon forged or better, i was a physical build (fighter and ranger most of the game) and i only switched in BBI after no dealing damage trying to use magic which also didnt work. After getting super frustrated i restarted to minmax a magic user but lost the motivation to play after a few hours and the realization of the time i just wasted.
Just cheat engine your stats to another build or something if you want, use a level planner as a guide if you want to stay legit
Can't give you any other advice because I'm magic all the way
Can we make fun of this literal retard?
>why
It's because the enemies in BBI have high armor. If you have 500 attack and the enemy has 501 defense then you can only do 1 damage to them. But if you have 502 attack then you do 502 damage to them.
also yes i had better than gregoris weapons, i got a decent way into bbi but couldnt beat the living armor (catacombs or bbi)
>too physical oriented
thats possible but i also wasnt dealing dam,age as a mage and my pawns did fuck all no matter what class. Im not exaggerating when i mean 0 damage, i legit fought living armor for 15mins and took exactly 0 health away. The best i did was getting one in the catacombs half way but that took 30mins and then he stop
>What class/classes did you go with?
ped taking damage
ranger and fighter, i had super high stamina and attack but still couldnt seem to do shit. Even took me 30mins and cheap tactics to beat the condemned cyclops.
>hire some OP pawn
in hindsight that wouldve been the best option but my pawns werent helping at all.
Kek
You can't cheat the Rift Crystals since they're Server-side currency. So I'd suggest against buying an OP pawn. You gonna need every single crystal for Bitterblack Isle.
>You can't cheat the Rift Crystals since they're Server-side currency
They're not stored server side, and you can cheat them
Sounds like absolute hell compared to what I''ve been up against thus far. A challenge is always fun, as long as it doable tho. Thanks for tips, mate!
im ps4 so no cheats and i know the level planning i just dont get why my character had such a hard time. Most people just told me to use super cheap tactics which i tried a few but it really takes away from the fun when you apply 20x buffs to kill something.
>If you have 500 attack and the enemy has 501 defense then you can only do 1 damage to them. But if you have 502 attack then you do 502 damage to them.
is this another one of the games retarded mechs? i dont get what you mean so if they have 500 ill only do 1 dmg but if i have 502 i do full dmg?
Where the fuck do i get the idol for madeleine
Dont tell me that the bronze one is the only one, i already gave it to the masterworker
We love you mate
You can get a gold idol if you're a very good boy for the rich fat man's daughter, and by that i mean you have to do her sidequest fucking perfectly. You can get a silver idol from a pawn guild noticeboard quest
>as long as it doable tho.
good fucking luck, the area killed my interest in the game. I sick of having to do calculations and research just to be able to hurt something
gonna need the sliders on that Arisen
>pawn has perfect ratings
>tfw someone summons it just to kill it right away and give a one star rate
Anyone else get this?
Can't remember the name of the quest, but you get a golden idol for following around Fournivals daughter. She's such a bitch tho... One wrong move, and you fail it and gotta reload.
Thanks
When does her quest become available again?
>tfw just blasted through Bitterblack Isle twice as magic archer and beat the shit out of Daimon 2
How much harder is it going to be as an assassin? I just reached postgame on my qt assassin and her shota ranger pawn fuccboi.
>I sick of having to do calculations and research just to be able to hurt something
all you need to do is push on and find the next tier of gear from chests
It'll be fine, I go there the moment I get my pawn and after a couple of loot runs, killing weaker enemies and creative use of items and the environment to kill some other enemies you become strong enough to take on almost everything.
Apparently the gold idol is also up in the rafters of Fournival's house. Haven't checked it myself, but people were surprised and never refuted it, so there you go
If your attack is lower than their defense then you do jack shit for damage. If your attack is higher than their defense then you do full damage. The 500, 501, and 502 numbers were just examples.
Her father needs to like you, so after you've helped him in his quests or if you've given him shit. Then go to his house in the afternoon. Make a checkpoint save by resting at the inn before the quest so you can revert when you inevitably fuck up.
She'll ask you to race her at the end, you need to let her win but make it look like she's just barely beating you.
>beat the game at like level 30
>head to bitterblack isle immediately
>bang my bongos until everything is dead
game is a total joke
The fuck? Is that how it works for players too?
>all you need to do is push on and find the next tier of gear from chests
i was told that after but thats pretty fucking dumb the game goes from stat based to "find a cool sword to win". The game feels incredibly dumbed down for bbi like they realized vanilla was too easy but also too complicated.
>Apparently the gold idol is also up in the rafters of Fournival's house. Haven't checked it myself, but people were surprised and never refuted it, so there you go
theres a forgery before the daughters quest, wont give you the discount.
I'm level 50 or so and breezing through it.
that sounds so fucking retarded, why did they make this game with such illogical rules
I should add, I BTFO of the chained cyclops, only to get attacked by a stronger dragon right after it died.
Well shit. Also, the forgery most definitely gives me the buying discount. Probably why it costs so much at the Black Cat. I thought it was just worthless for the quest?
Not very often, what bothers me the most is still not having 5 stars despite having cleared the beastiary, but i guess such is life for a 200 warrior.
bbi is only "hard" because you run into enemies that are 99% immune to your attacks so you do no damage, and your pawns which could be doing the damage dont because the ai is completely useless, and if you try to switch to the appropriate class is barely matters because your stats for it are so low you do shit damage anyway
Gotta wear the silk lingerie, with nothing else but weapons. Top ratings!
how the fuck did you manage that, i stumbled through the game on ps3 years ago not even knowing stat growth was a thing, spent the whole game as fighter/warrior and switched to mystic knight at BBI and was progressing through it just fine
living armors only take physical damage until you break the armor and make them ghosties then you gotta finish em off with magic iirc
brine'd
japanese are dum
Living armors take magic damage just fine, but I think they have high magic defense until the armor breaks.
what game is this? you are all talking about BBI or something. Dragon dogma?
>got the game on PC and decide to make the perfect Magic Knight build
>meaning I have to go from level 10 to max level using the mage classes
>tfw around level 50 and already bored of casting spells
Fuck me this isnt fun at all.
But I really wanna play as a MK with max magic stats..
>tfw did a one-shot ranger build
My first build was an assassin which was the most fun, but once I did the ranger the damage was shit tier in comparison.
>PC
Just cheat engine your stats once you get to level 200
>implying it makes a difference with BBI gear
i quit when i got to the dark bishop and all of his shit kills my party instantly but i cant do any damage to him even if i get extremely lucky and my pawn gives me the dark buff
>Lvl 70 Assassin pure physical build. Can clear the Everfall with ease now, but I've read that BBI is x100 times harder
I did BBI well before Everfall. It is 100x harder though. It's just something you stick with and struggle through until you manage to gear yourself properly in that hell hole. Good luck with true BBI. I still have nightmares about the 2nd run through.
>Good luck with true BBI. I still have nightmares about the 2nd run through.
I ez cruised through the entire thing as a sorcerer.
Sorcerer most fun class anyway.
>start as a strider - have tons of fun
>next try the assassin - have lots of fun
>try greatsword thing - felt boring and slow
>try magic archer - console mode
Im tempted to just stick with strider/assassin if other classess are not as involving.
>oh it's so hard user, no one can survive
>beat the bongos
>kill everything with ease
there was less than half a day between me beating regular daimon and "true" daimon on my first playthrough, the game is a total cakewalk joke
It's pretty cool, but the bosses have a lot of health, like a shit tonne of health. Make sure you stock up on curatives and you should be okay for most things, I think I ran through all of it at level 86 with a rank 10 (or whatever the max rank is) warrior, a rank 10 magic archer, and a rank 10 strider
please teach me how to enjoy this game. it seems to have such a faithful following but back when i played it i thought it was absolute dogshit. quit when i was escorting the head though so its not like i got too far into it either.
i want to like it though, i really do and im ready to give it another chance. should i play a particular build or something to ease myself into it more?
I think the combat is really great and a bit of mystical atmosphere of the world/some characters keeps me interested so far. And some parkour exloration and checking out whether you can jump up some places or not. And some other unique minor details in some features. The sidequests are pretty terrible though and unninteresting with bare-bones writing involved. I'd say the area you start in is fairly dull, which is where you stopped playing. I started as a strider and thats the class other than assassin was what i have enjoyed playing as the most so far.
the beginning is actually dog shit. Once you get past that escort mission the game gets a lot better, especially with the griffon battles
>how the fuck did you manage that, i stumbled through the game on ps3 years ago not even knowing stat growth was a thing, spent the whole game as fighter/warrior and switched to mystic knight at BBI and was progressing through it just fine
why do you think i was so fucking frustrated? there was literally no reason for me not doing damage.
>living armors only take physical damage until you break the armor and make them ghosties then you gotta finish em off with magic iirc
makes sense but i had magic pawns that were useless i was very confused