Anyone remembers the first days of Smash 3DS (or Vanilla Smash 3DS)?

Anyone remembers the first days of Smash 3DS (or Vanilla Smash 3DS)?
Vectoring, People thinking Little Mac was OP, Marth/Lucina being godawful, Wario's momentum, Yoshi's teleport, etc...

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>they patched out wectoring
Still mad.

Pac-Man's bair alone could also send flying the hydrant.
And Little Mac's Side-B was longer in the air.

The game was more fun before Cloud and Bayonetta.

>prenerf diddy
>prenerf greninja
>prenerf sheik

I remember. I got my first 3DS for this shit. Back in 2014. Shit was pretty lit.

>Vectoring

What did he mean by this?

Good they're faggot characters, and not just because they're good but because only insufferable autists have any connection to them

>wectoring didn't even make it to the Wii U version
>ywn play an 8-player Wario match with everyone flying around on Temple

HOO HAH

Vanilla smash 4 was trash and became best smash after dlc and 1.1.7

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Honestly, having your skins saved was really convenient.

>tfw diddy kong is dead
I rarely see them in for glory

>prenerf greninja

playing diddy or sheik in FG is hard

weren't rolls also really good in vanilla 3ds?
I also remember when people thought Puff was mid-tier

>weren't rolls also really good in vanilla 3ds?
It's more that nobody remembered that dsmash punished rolling. On FG in current year, you still get shitters who think that they're untouchable and eat several dsmashes in a row.

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>mii brawler in A tier
>all those marf tears
>implying ness wasn't a tier in vanilla smash

>Brawler in A tier

First tier list ever

At the time tiny 2122 Mii Brawler was standard and iirc the only thing that could beat him was equally dumb shit like custom prepatch Sheik/Diddy and if he were still legal he would bop everyone except for maybe Cloud
>Air speed higher than limit cloud
>Fox ground speed
>kill confirms at like 40 where Dthrow->Helicopter Kick basically drags fuckers into the shadow realm
>Mario-esque frame data
>High air speed + not-Flip Jump made him practically ungimpable by most characters.
>Weight of 97(same as Luigi/Villager) meanwhile ZSS/Sheik/Rosa are around 80-85 or less
>later on ESAM and ZeRo would claim Tiny Brawler is top 3 Post-DLC/patches
His only flaw was that he sucked ass at edgeguarding but that’s somewhat irrelevant when by the time they are offstage they should be dead.

I heard 3ds for glory has better players than wii u for glory

>dedede and jigglypuff that high
nani the fuck

Real tier list here.

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Dedede was popular back then, And people thought Puff had potential with her buffed rest.
The memelord tier list.

People rolled into Jigglypuff's rest.
A lot.

I'm still mad they removed wectoring

I'm a poorfag that doesn't have WiiU so I could only afford a 2DS and Smash. I still play to this day. I think I have up to 800 hours or something.

I don't even know how many hours I have in smash total. It has to be near 1k.
I don't even really like it, to be honest. I'm just too lazy to change disks. I also have no idea how good I am.

>Sm4sh will be 4 years old this year

It's pretty amazing just how playable the handheld version is.

>tfw Smash 4's base roster was pretty decent
>tfw the balance of the base roster was pretty good too minus the top tiers having some broken stuff (Hoo hah, ect) and obvious balance outliers (Dedede, Pacman)
>tfw my main could actually compete

>DLC comes out
>Cloud invalidates half the cast
>Corrin becomes the go to for shitters who can't approach
>Ryu and Mewtwo strong as fuck
>Bayonetta is extremely broken
>Marth buffed to the point that he's even better than his already near broken Brawl incarnation
>my main has shitty MUs with almost every single DLC sans Roy
>DLC is all anyone plays anymore, doubles is just Cloud dittos, if you play a mid/low tier you might as well not compete
DLC honest to god ruined Smash 4, and not just because it bloated the roster with FE trash. Pay to win really isn't a meme.

>still no snake mod for smash4

I'll take hoo-hah over bayo/cloud

Roy, Lucina and Robin are getting the boot next Smash
Marth, Ike and Corrin will most likely stay, + FE Switch MC

>Luma used to take only 8 seconds to respawn

>implying ISIS will ever let Lucina not be in something
>implying Robin, the most unique FE character is getting the axe

Awakening isn't relevant anymore. The hot shit is still Fates and FE16 as well.
Also Robin is trash and his moveset isn't anything special. They have no qualms in axing unique characters

All these patches and not a single buff.

>samus apparently the second worst character
That was rough.

>Pac-Man that high
Those were good days

>next Smash
will there be another smash? sorry stopped keeping up with smash news years ago

>will there be another multi-million dollar franchise game for the new system?

Gee whiz, that would be silly

I find the joystick for the 2DS mucho more responsive than the WiiU and Gamecube. With the latter I always end up doing down B and up B to the wrong side.

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Smash Run is great, even if I hate how many kid icarus enemies are in that mode.

Smash Run is good, but it could've been a lot better on the Wii U with an online mode, bigger map, and the ability to fight others on the map. I only got to play it with friends a handful of times before the Wii U version came out and they switched to it.

Remember Sonic's back throw?

i never liked the controls on the 3ds but when they released new3ds and everyone else started playing with the c-stick i just stopped playing

>bawww Bowser was shit

They should have nerfed Sonic into the ground so nobody ever plays him.

>the only mage rep the series ever got
>implying tome usage wasn’t special

Robin is a swordfighter with shitty magic specials

it was fucking bullshit that they never enabled the circle pad pro to let you c-stick

>they nerfed ROB's up throw to the ground when he was a fucking C tier
>everything else about him was completely untouched for the rest of the game's lifespan

His Dthrow-uair is so fucking dumb.

>Rob’s side b reflector is a literal 50/50 because the reflector is only on one arm.

Shitty magic specials are still magic specials user. Robin plays fundamentally different than every other sword user, let alone FE.

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i liked bowser jr the most

Out of all the characters in this game I honestly feel bad for Palutena the most. She had a brief fleeting moment of being good when custom specials were legal back in early 2015, until EVO where it was all over. They didn't bother to give her any real major changes in patches so they just left her in that state.

She deserved it for stealing Pac-Man's spot at E3

I've mained her since day one. I don't think she's -as- bad as people say.

>Pac-Man was announced privately at the round table
>those few hours where everyone was freaking out about what design he would have
How did they let this happen?

I fucking miss the 3DS days anons, there was nothing like this to be had with the wii u version.

To be fair, Palutena being revealed in the E3 spotlight instead of Pac-Man made sense considering E3 was where they revealed info about the character customization system. Mii Fighters were already shown off in the beginning of the event, so naturally they wanted to get that other character with the unique custom specials out of the way, so they could be displayed on the website and such.

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Sakurai's waifu is more important

apparently Robin had dacus at launch.

why remove dacus? Stop removing fun.

>The reveal video at E3
>The WFT reveal video and seeing everyone mad and surprised
>That time when Rosalina was leaked some minutes before announced and everyone were mad and disappointed
>The Waluigi assist announcement
>The Captain Falcon return in the Robin reveal video
>People receiving the 3DS codes for the demo and all the begging
>People believing that DH was Top Tier
>The ESRB leaks
>Luigi being the only character that countered Diddy
>7-8 seconds respawn of Luma
>HOO-HAH
>Diddy nerfed and Rise of Sheik
>MEWTWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Lucas and expectations of more DLC
>Leaks of Ryu and Roy
>Cloud in general
>Bayonetta and 6th FE rep
>No KKR

Good times, and I know I'm missing a lot of stuff.

That doesn't prevent them from just shoving Pac-Man's trailer somewhere in there.
Why would you announce one of gaming's biggest icons privately?

>>That time when Rosalina was leaked some minutes before announced and everyone were mad and disappointed


Lol, really?
That said, I never find her fun to play against.

>Lol, really?

Yes, that's partly why people call her Nintendo's Lightning.

My favorite thing was seeing everyone getting mad over zero/scarflard.

Someone should make a complete list of everything. Adding to your list:

>Shulk is just a Photoshopped Little Mac
>Gematsu leak; Chrom and Chorus Kids getting the boot
>Ashley revealed as an Assist Trophy
>Takamaru and Ghirahim revealed as Assist Trophies

>Game & Watch is clipping into Wario's icon
>Wario is ripped from a SSE cutscene
>Ness has the wrong number of stripes on his shirt!
>everyone expecting Mewtwo during the Greninja trailer
>Ridley clearly grabbed Pikachu. Why would a boss be able to do that?
>WHO IS RIDORI
>the Geno costume

They are both shit.

>3ds version breaks streetdate, everyone watches a couple streamers who are terrible at the game.
>Dark Pit unlocked.
>Duck Hunt unlocked.
>"You've unlocked every character, congratulations!"

>Smash 4 comes out
>Netcode somehow manages to get worse every year

>Whiny and deluded Ridley fans

Good times debating those idiots (no offense to anyone who likes Ridley, but damn).

>People receiving the 3DS codes for the demo and all the begging
Now those were some good times, I got a 3ds mewtwo code from a kind user

Speculation is fucking awful, makes me wish smash-centric sites stopped existing.

>people were actually buying demo and Mewtwo codes on ebay

Don't forget the months of shitposting about ZSS having rocket shoes. People to this day can't get over them.

I blame no one for not believing the ESRB leak.
From sketchy things like Duck Hunt to the clone corner of shame.
Until the videos that is.

Anyone else think smash run is fucking hard as fuck sometimes?
>get raped on all sides by hard as fuck enemies

>Just fucking dropped a picture of Rayman's trophy with no explanations
Absolute madman

Nah, is not that hard, but I really despise the KI enemies like that heart thing or the reapers

I think Smash 3DS was a nice idea and the fact it's 1:1 is pretty impressive, but at the same time I resent it immensely because it was never going to have a long life once the "real" version came out. We also lost the Ice Climbers because of it, and the roster probably could have been 3 or 4 characters bigger if not for developing smash run and all that shit for the 3DS version.

tl;dr it was a cool novelty but ultimately it did detract a ton of manpower from the real version

Cloud ruined the game. I'm not even mad about Bayo because at least with her it feels like you actually have to put effort in. Cloud is even more braindead than Mario and stronger to boot.

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Subspace Emissary had a similar issue too. I don't know what makes Sakurai a complete angry sociopath when designing the enemies for these kinds of modes.

>the ability to fight others on the map
This is pretty much the only fault I have with it. Everything else (map size, enemy variety, etc) is a luxury, but there's no reason why you couldn't interact with opponents during the actually stat-grabbing phase. Heck, they even show you where your opponents are on the map, and for what purpose? So you can pay attention to the constant spam of messages saying "Charizard found some random door!" so you can go out of your way to open that particular door?

>Real version
I really hate when people say stuff like this...

Fucking christ, some of those enemies were horse shit.

Smash 3DS was a 40 dollar demo. Nothing more, nothing less.

Git Gud™, son. The balance of Smash right now is literally better than it ever was.

It's the same game.