>Try your hardest to make a great fucking game.
>Create a mechanically flawless combat system with depth for fucking days.
>Universal disdain due to casual shitters.
Why the good fuck is this allowed?
If you can't finish The Evil Within on AKUMU without whining like a little bitch, you shouldn't be allowed to write about games.
soon to happen with kingdom come
It's not like they have to play the game for more than 30 minutes anyway. JRPGs will usually score low.
The writing absolutely is shit though.
Your game is shit.
Protip: Stop paying attention to video game reviews/E-elecb opinions about video games
Look up the gameplay and see if it catches your attention
Yes: Give it a try
No: Avoid it and move on
Sup Forums has let these reviewers warp their mentality of enjoying a video game.
So is this game good? Also which version is recommended? Is the PS4 version just an upscaled Vita port?
Why is Sup Forums always trying to convince others to buy shit games? Is this some hipster reasoning "it failed because it was too smart for the general public" or "it's niche therefore it's good" kind of deal?
It's just some delusional weeb that thinks his game is the best game he has played and is trying to convince everyone that he isn't a delusional autist.
>People aren't allowed to have opinions that don't conform to the standard
I see the manlets have gotten loose again, salty that others are able to differ from the masses without ridicule.
When will you little bastards learn?
We user it seems you are in a minority. Everyone else thinks this game is shit.
I haven't played this game. I just know an anally ravaged manlet when I see one.
Come back when you can ride in the tilt-a-whirl, little Timmy.
>underrated things can't exist
>every game is exactly as good as our glorious video gaym critics say
>I haven't played this game
>still defending it
kek
>Pointing out the manlet tears is the same as defending a game.
Keep crying, maybe they'll let you on the ride if you cry hard enough.
>being this mad over a game you haven't even played
JUST
I agree with OP, what now, mister "in a thread with 9 ip me and another shitposter are shitposting so everyone else agrees with me".
You hit the nail on the head.
Have a (you) out of pity.
I'll play it if I ever get a new console.
Can you list some other good games that got poor review scores due to 'difficulty'?
Pointing out what an obnoxious shitposter you are is not defending anything specific, though.
>The manlet tears just keep flowing
My god man, have some dignity. You don't have to act like a child just because you look like one.
How am I even shitposting? You are just mad that your weebshit got bad reviews and you are trying to make out it is because "people just don't get it".
Just kys.
Not the fucking issue.
The issue is good games selling like trash 'cause journalists don't know shit about video games. They can't into anything even remotely challenging. Retards see 2.8 from IGN and avoid the game forever. They laugh about how bad the game is without ever trying it. Shit's cancerous as fuck.
NAtURAL DOCtRINE's the best SRPG ever made. I'm playing the PS4 release. Looks fine to me. Can't speak to the quality of the other versions.
There is a world between a game being underrated and an obviously bad game being good. Plenty of games are underrated for one reason or another, but when an entire profession and 90% of players agrees that a game is bad coming out with "muh evil journalists were mean to my anime kusoge" makes you look like an undiscerning weeb or someone pathologically contrarian.
Chaos Legion. I think. Not sure.
The Evil Within.
>NAtURAL DOCtRINE's the best SRPG ever made
HMMMMMM
Wow underage panty quest: Hurt feelings edition got panned, color me suprised!
> You
I'm not OP.
>You are just mad that your weebshit got bad reviews
While you are raving just because OP said a jouno is acting like casual as usual and that that game deserves better than 2,8. Wew.
>he's still making these threads
pathetic
He's not me. Holy fuck. Get your shit together.
Also, NAtURAL DOCtRINE's the only anime game I've ever enjoyed. Ever. I don't even watch anime.
Not wrong at all, a sad sight to see desu. Sounds like anyone can be a game reviewer. Get free prerelease of a game, play it even if you don't have the skills. Make bullshit opinion, get free money. Truth be told, are all video game reviewers paid by game companies? How do they get paid, it can't be just ad revenue right?
Dude. Stop. Journalists are less than worthless. The casual masses are easily led. It's the people that enjoy difficult games that know shit. The people that play every game with an open mind. Those that don't watch YouTube faggots analyze shit.
Swallowing the opinions of others makes you a cuck. Think for yourself.
Name a more satisfying combat system.
You literally can't. Final Fantasy Tactics has the depth of a fucking puddle in comparison.
There is also a world between a game being "bad" and being as bad as that jouno is trying to make it look. That review reeks of butthurt casual, and your posts reek of triggered shitposter who just wants to bash something. You know, the cancer killing Sup Forums.
God what I would do too just get to rape her.
so is natural doctrine the god hand of RPGs or something
>Sup Forums
>literally just one sperg spamming the same thread
>Ive decided to make ad hominem attacks constantly to hide how upset I am
Watch. I bet you're typing another manlet joke up.
OP you're hysterical over an IGN review. The same people that slid every EA title a 8+/10. The same people that think each new CoD installment is "mind-blowing" or "kick-ass". No one is surprised they don't like a game you do. What's pathetic is that you haven't even tried to defend this game. Which must mean it's not possible to defend and it's obviously shit lol suck a dick you're probably a shill hahaha
You have talked with at least 3 different people, mate.
Pretty much. In my opinion.
You gotta enjoy challenging games, though. You're gonna get brutalized till you get good. Every battle is a puzzle. You gotta chain your actions to give characters that've already went additional turns. Positioning is everything.
NAtURAL DOCtRINE makes you think. Hard.
OP if you're gonna sperg out about this game and shill it every chance you get can you at least explain what the fuck makes the combat system good besides "IT'S SO DEEP!!!" how does the combat work and what makes it fun?
No. I just looked up a video on it, and it looks like shit.
Stop making this thread OP. Your game was going to sell like shit regardless of the review scores it got
I'm willing to accept that the game is much better than what that IGN reviewer rated it, that's very much possible. What I'm doubtful of is that the game is some hidden masterpiece that a hundred of journalists somehow didn't get. Five journalists might have been on their period, and the game might have lost one or two points from other journalists solely because of its difficulty, add all that in and it's still a metascore of 60 or something. It's always like that with underrated games, people overcompensate, look at God Hand standing in forums for example.
The 'best' srpgs I've played include Front Mission 5 and Fire Emblem Conquest (and Growlanser IV if that counts as a srpg), they're not hard games but they keep the player engaged by designing each mission to encourage a different approach to overcome it. Does Natural Doctrine have that sort of variety or is it just "hard" in the same way every time?
SEE: I explain why the game's good in every single thread. People conveniently ignore that shit, though.
Also, fuck IGN. It's not about IGN. It's about the universal hate this game got. It's unwarranted as fuck. It's just hard. Big fucking deal. Get good and you'll realize how fantastic the game is.
god hand is genuinely a masterpiece though. if you think it isn't then that doesn't help your case
Yes. I'm Japanese. Living in Japan. Spending my time shilling a game that released in 2013. On an American site.
Are you fucking retarded?
Kingdom Come is literally Two Worlds Part 2
You still seem to think that reviewers have some semblance of video game knowledge. They don't. Not only are they bad at reviewing video games in general, anything that doesn't match their specific preferences is heavily penalized and game reviewers are a largely homogenous group of casuals so it's not surprising that anything that targets a more 'hardcore' niche suffers.
Would you say that the majority of people who read whatever website this review came from would enjoy a very hard and in-depth strategy RPG?
No, it's not. It maybe should be 10 points above its metascore of 73. It's a good game in a niche genre, if you tolerate its aesthetic and repetitvness.
>good game in a niche genre
Just out of curiosity does a good game in a niche genre deserve a lower score than a good game in a popular genre?
Now you posted a reasonable post. And, yes, OP, is very likely exaggerating as well, but his exaggeration is potentially more interesting and informative than a ludicrous "2.8/10 unfair game 10/10 rage it gives me nightmares pls help"
You can win every battle by doing different shit. It's all about finding a method that works.
The skill system isn't permanent. You can change each character's build whenever you want. None of the skills are useless from what I can tell. So far.
If you make a dumb mistake, you're gonna get fucked. If your positioning is off, you're dead. It's a game that punishes you for not planning two turns ahead.
OP* is very likely exaggerating as well,
You've been making these threads non stop and you're still not done? How many hours have you played so far?
Just show some damn gameplay you baka gaijin
>assblasted weeb over his shit game
Everytime
On a generalist website read by regular players? It deserves at least heavy warnings, maybe a lower score if 90% of the audience would hate it regardless of its qualities
>Just show some damn gameplay you baka gaijin
It's basically about making domino pieces fall down in the right place. That's all there is to the game. Except instead of domino pieces you have generic anime cardboard cutouts against generic jrpgs monsters. On top of that if you fuck up one move you might need to restart losing even half an hour of gametime to retrded stuff. It's a game for autistic people basically.
I'm not blowing shit outta proportion. I'm telling you why I fucking love the game.
This is what I think. You probably won't enjoy it as much as me. I'm huge into challenging games. It's not a five out of fucking ten, though.
NAtURAL DOCtRINE's mechanically flawless. It's the other shit that needs work.
It's not a pretty game. The translation's a little rough. There's some scrolling text on the battle screen that's annoying as fuck. You should be able to skip watching your opponent's turn. Speeding shit up isn't good enough when you're facing over a dozen enemies.
It's still the best SRPG ever made. The combat system's that good. The story's also decent as fuck. Really enjoy seeing the different characters interact.
I spent two days trying to make threads without using the IGN review as bait.
Kept hitting the archive without a single fucking reply.
stop bumping your shitty thread
Read the fucking thread. I don't like anime. This is the first anime game I've ever enjoyed.
As someone who absolutely loves Natural Doctrine, its biggest flaw is not explaining the mechanics enough while tossing the players straight into situations while the AI utilizes every single mechanic possible to defeat you.
>It's not a pretty game. The translation's a little rough. There's some scrolling text on the battle screen that's annoying as fuck. You should be able to skip watching your opponent's turn. Speeding shit up isn't good enough when you're facing over a dozen enemies.
So it plays like shit, it looks like shit and you have to eat shit to appreciated the supposedly flawless core mechanics that are coated in garbage. Amazing. I wonder if the developers are as autistic as you. They must be if they were able to make such a masterpiece that only autistic people would enjoy.
>Your post reeks of triggered shitposter who just wants to bash something
Pot, meet kettle.
Dude, stop throwing around shit like "Natural Doctrine's mechanically flawless" "It's the best SRPG ever made". You said you had troubles making threads without the IGN shit cause maybe Sup Forums just doesn't give a fuck about the game, and you have to accept that. Try getting actual people you know into the game if you truly want people to talk about it with.
Shit game.
A game can look like shit but can have top tier gameplay. The two are not always mutually exclusive
The start menu has a section that details every single mechanic.
Do you want to play online?
That's nice but how about you spend two days FINISHING THE FUCKING GAME before making threads? You're lucky that no one has played this game so you haven't had all the fun strategies spoiled for you or something.
>Caring about spoilers.
I'm not five.
Also, I play for hours at a time. Posting on Sup Forums's my side bitch. I want to discuss my current favorite game. Fucking sue me.
It's not like I post this shit daily.
You know if one tries multiple times to start a thread and the thread never takes off, it's telling you something obvious.
What you're doing is pretty much spam at this point, which is against the rules.
>The issue is good games selling like trash
Here is your problem. You need to decouple your enjoyment of a product from its financial performance. It's not for you or anyone to tell others how to spend their money.
Any good diffcult srpgs
Preferablely one i can emualate on my potato
Poor financial performance of good games means that few good games will be made. Reviewers are telling other to spend their money on bad games rather than good games, which is contributing to this problem. This is something that affects anyone with an interest in the quality of video games that they play.
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I'm not gonna get a sequel. Moron. Shit's dead and buried forever.
That fucking blows, dude.
Wait, you spam your "Natural Doctrine is the best SRPG ever", but you didn't even finish the game? What a fucking tool.
it's so difficult and deep it takes 30 years to play through
I'm playing it every fucking day. It's long as fuck.
I'll eat shit and apologize if the game does a complete reversal before the end. It won't, though.
I don't understand how posting a similar thread once every few days is spam.
This is legitimate video game discussion. Sup Forums is constantly flooded with shitposting. The moderators are fucking swamped.
Shit was different in 2007. You could praise a game without immediately being called a shill.
Devil Survivor 1 and 2 are great
What's with the sudden NAtURAL DOCtRINE obsession?
How challenging are they? I'm interested.
I like Devil Survivor 1 & 2 but I'd say their biggest flaw is their lack of difficulty
Reviewers also appeal to the lowest common denominator. The people the game this was geared towards would probably inform themselves better than skimming through a single fucking ign article.
IGN/reviewers don't kill games. They kill themselves
Fuck. Do you know of any challenging as fuck SRPGs or JRPGs?
I need to read that Famitsu article about NAtURAL DOCtRINE I saw. Pretty sure the development team dicussed how they wanted to make a genre defining game.
Not getting a sequel doesn't hurt the most. What hurts the most is knowing that the development studio worked hard as fuck. Made a great game. Then got dog shit in return. People didn't bother learning the game. They just whined.
>NAtURAL DOCtRINE's the best SRPG ever made
care to do some mental gymnastic to explain how? I played the game and story and its characters are retarded and intrusive. Gameplay is mehh. Sound design is almost non existent.
Its nowhere near any SRPG that is actually good or fun. Like FFT or Disgaea. It reminds me of Gladius on ps2 except GLadius is fun and interesting.
Unfortunately I do not. I'd say FE Conquest (on lunatic difficulty, without any of the online cheat stuff) is the hardest SRPG I've played in which the challenge is consistently fair and tests player skill rather than grinding or luck.
>405087965
Or maybe the game is actually shit.
It's just one guy obsessively posting about it since a week or so.
I like the game but it's really not as deep or good as user makes it out to be, he is right that it's mechanically a notch above things like FFT, but that's mostly because those games are gutter trash for casuals anyway, that's not much of a challenge, and honestly, it's only mechanically TIGHTER than those games since the game actually forces you to learn how to do shit, at the cost of having basically nothing of the basic features of the genres, like creating generics or a more freeform character building system.
To be frank though, ND is actually what the Valkyria Chronicles games should have been, so if you like VC's idea but hate the execution you'd probably like ND, if you prefer more standard SRPGs you'll probably hate ND because there's very little customization to be had and the game basically revolves around a single feature, that while not easy to master makes up for basically all of the combat, so when you do master it there's very little to do with the game, which is a shame since as I said it's a pretty tight and rewarding game.
If you want a truly deep game with that grand strategy feel just play The Last Remnant though.
I want to agree with you since I know you're right but your overuse of the word "fuck" makes me think you are, at least mentally, 14 years old
>Fair combat system that's satisfying as fuck. Depth for fucking days.
>The goal's to chain actions and give characters that've already went additional turns.
>Positioning means everything.
>Eliminating the next fucker up multiple times can result in a landslide victory.
>Your opponent can do the same shit.
>Winning means something due to how challenging the game is.
>The magic system's meaningful as fuck. Your characters draw from the same pool of mana. Every chest you open gives you more. This means that you have to pick every spell carefully.
Could you tell me a bit more about TLR's depth? I didn't like commander mode in RS3 and I'm worried the combat in TLR will just be repetitive autobattle stuff. I like thinking up precise tactics in SRPGs.
Are you the guy that wants to play online? I'm down.
I had The Last Remnant spoiled for me. I heard you're not supposed to grind. Does it have multiple difficulty modes?
I might just grind like a mother fucker when I play it. I'd prefer it to be challenging regardless, however.