FFXIV

Ok Sup Forums, I tried getting into this game (about 15-ish hours in) and the combat feels really clunky and slow. I really want to get into the game, but does other aspects of the game redeem it?

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combat is shit for literally all jobs until you get some ogcd abilities, most wont get fun til at least 50+

Only retards play and defend this game
>$20 entrance fee
>Close to $150 in sub fees a month to continue playing
>Full of utter waifutards that are shit at the game and cry and get mad for the tiniest things
>Story is shit

Pathetic.

You forgot about the yearly $60 expansion.

Supposedly, by the endgame mechanics get very complex in combination with non-GCD spells, plus PvE content requires lots of positioning and tactics. But to get there you'll have to slog through this terrible mandatory story campaign. It's consists of nothing but running and clicking through countless, derivative dialogue boxes, explaining same dumb story over and over.

but in the end are you having "fun"?

Xiv thread? Let's get this started


>playing any other tank than war

Should I level it? I only have drk so far.

I have no idea. My friend like it, but by the end of the vanilla content I couldn't bear the terrible campaign and dropped it.

Everything gets better eventually. Not good, just better than low level content.

For clarification Im playing an archer.

Fuck off with your shitty game already.

the archer class becomes decently fast paced when you become the bard job and have your songs and pitch perfect, bard has a lot of ogcd skills that flow nicely. i think bard is one of the smoothest classes in the game once you hit 52+

>Those retards whining for hours about the WAR buffs, thinking they were nerfs

>there are people right now on Sup Forums who think they reused the music from the Typhon and Ultros FFXIV trial for Sigmascape.

Ultros' is the original from VI:
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Smegma is Soken's mix:
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war is for 5 iq brainlets and dudebros

Later bard levels is when it gets fun, you'll be weaving in songs between arrow shots that that buff you or reset ogcds whenever one of your dots crits, or building stacks for other moves, if you aren't constantly doing something as a bard you are doing it wrong

Archer is one of the better jobs to be playing right at the start since it has a fair number of oGCD skills, and also a decent AoE.

Why did they do that? Who the fuck complained about WAR's gameplay? Who is the next victim of Yoshida's "braindead" design direction?

People constantly bitched about "WAR is the hardest to play yet barely does more damage than braindead PLD", so clearly Yoshi saw that and figured they needed to be more braindead and also do more damage.

>WAR
>hardest to play
What was so hard about use your gap closer so you dont max out your meter til berserk is ready and then cleave away

Anyone figured out how to get the True Griffin mount yet?

Loud mouth wars on the forums and YouTube "stars" like xeno complaining to all his followers constantly about how war is never good enough. The playerbase can only blame themselves for crying too much, now they get to enjoy boring 10iq gameplay with built in crits to rattle like keys in front of the brainlets so they are happy.

Fucking Virus makes o7s impossible to pug

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Yo're lucky i can't even get past adds in 05s or the flight in byakko.

>XIV have little to no e-celebs playing it regularly
>the few ones that exist are some of the biggest dick-sucking faggots on youtube
Youtube was a mistake, someone please shut it down already.

Can someone post that DRK picture with the edgy macros?

>people still wiping on Hashmael
>still trying to vote abandon after one wipe
>still getting through with it
The absolue state of this community...

the combat definitely sucks until you unlock most of your job abilities and as you level you'll naturally get more skill/spell speed which will increase gcd and make everything faster

just rush to 70 asap through msq exp and ignore literally everything else

wtf glad i did byakko day 1, still gotta do o5s god help me

let's be fair

4.0 shit all over war to the point that there was no reason to play it

one of the biggest weaknesses of the game is that the vast majority of classes take a long time to get fun

had rab for khloe this week and it was painful, most tank cant hold aggro dps still die to everything. glad i hit 340 ilvl so i dont have to do that shit anymore

>Who the fuck complained about WAR's gameplay?
WAR players

Ananta beast tribe

you should have a bajillion second chance this week, why not just keep resetting the dungeons in your roulettes?

Isn't the Ananta mount an elephant though?

>DUDE WHAT IF ZENOS ACTUALLY ISN'T DEAD LMAO

Is there a single fun DPS in the game?

I've played a bunch of different tanks and healers (AST, SCH, WAR, DRK) and had fun but every single DPS I play feels like it doesn't matter whether I'm there or not and I have virtually zero responsibility other than doing the mechanics.

I made the mistake of leveling RDM to 70 and it's hands down the most boring, braindead class I've ever seen in an mmo. I got BRD to 60 but I still don't feel like I'm having that much fun. Of the other DPS jobs, are there any that have a very flexible rotation like RDM and BRD?

its not zenos

>being this much of a brainlet

they have two

>every single DPS I play feels like it doesn't matter whether I'm there or not

That's because it doesn't. You're there to deal as much damage as possible to make the run go faster, but that's it. Success or failure in casual content isn't reliant on DPS.

Your responsibility is doing good damage and making the fights not drag out. Regardless, responsibility is not the only aspect of fun. If that's all you care about then stick to tanks and healers.

NIN
>implying other jobs have any responsibility besides doing their mechanics
The only difference is your fuck ups are more noticeable as a tank or healer

the people who enjoy this game do not know what a good game is. same shit that happened with ffxi lol. let that sink in

>join a Byakko farm as WHM
>other healer is SCH
>WAR "mt"
And you know it is going to be one of those days where you have to solo heal everything and the WAR will not bother with any migration skills.

Fuck those two classes.

NIN
DRG
BLM
MNK
BRD

I didn't wait to long for Byakko learning parties did I?
They all seem to dissolve after about 3 wipes.

No one enjoys this game. They just have nothing better.

>thought WAR was fine already
>Inner Release gets changed
>Suddenly, Defiance matters again
It's a shorter duration, but everyone was already blowing their loads in that time frame anyway.

Here

The stakes are what I find fun. If I fuck up then everyone might die. That pressure is what makes it feel like there is any point in playing whatsoever.

If there isn't a single DPS job that invokes that kind of feeling (it doesn't necessarily have to be responsibility like a healer has to keep a tank up or like a tank has to hold aggro and stay alive) then I probably just don't like DPS at all. Maybe I might like SMN because death is extremely punishing. I really don't know though.

>been playing monster hunter since sunday
>haven't even finished the new msq or even ran a single dungeon
I should just unsub til the next patch shouldnt I, there's no way I'll be able to even get to clear byakko at this point since raid finder dies after the first die and all pf parties demand a clear already, raiding at all is right out of the question as well

This. NIN is fucking fun, learning the ninjutsu combos is great. I normally hate DPS classes in any MMO but NIN was a lot of fun/challenging

Yes, now you get people who can't dodge the leg sweep.

I was concerned about the steel cyclone change, but the nerf to hp regain doesn't even matter when you can spam it freely for 10 seconds straight

Byakko is almost comically easy. You could easily go in blind to a "clear" party and get a clear

>If I fuck up then everyone might die.
If you fuck up as dps everyone will also die, the difference is that everyones death is delayed
If dps had no responsibility people would bring all tanks and healers

>Class with the strongest heals bitching about healing

In savage you can wipe the party but it's not related to the job.

Please describe the savage mechanics

Reminder that any game with time gates is shit.

There is no DPS that invokes that kind of feeling. The enjoyment from DPS is supposed to come from their (generally) more complex rotations and skill prioritizing, plus having to deal with more mechanics. If one dies, the worst that usually happens is that the run takes longer. Enrage is about the only time the weight is on your shoulders.

>If you fuck up as dps everyone will also die
Not really, if a bunch of dps die and the healer doesn't res them fast enough then that might be the case, but a single DPS gone is not enough to cause a wipe. It's easy enough for other DPS to pick up the slack.

DPS just don't really matter that much.

like normal but with less markers and there's Sephirot expanding bubbles that explode if they touch. Also puddles that follow you when the tiger spawns.

also you can ignore the DPS check with tank LB3

>i never did neo

>1 dps dies
>you other 3 just start doing 1.33k more dps, it's easy to pick up the slack of losing an average dps player

I assume it's at least harder than Susano?

And what are some good, better games patrician-san?

You literally wont name any

>it's easy to pick up the slack of losing an average dps player
yes, it is

it is easy enough to carry a shitty dps or clear with one dead for the entire fight

>you can ignore the DPS check with tank LB3
Ohh that's the strat i keep reading in pf, disgusting.

t expert roulette hero

HA HA

no

have you ever done a Savage raid in your life

or hell, even an EX Primal

It’s either an Ascian or an Echo resurrection

Nice, i'l try to get a sneaky clear.

So how cucked are SAM's?

Sigmascape battle music is literally ff6 battle music

So far it hasn't been that bad, just wipes to the tiger before we get tossed into the air.

So that's just. Wrong.

>can’t clear byakko ex becuase of idiots who can’t read waymarkers

JUST level.

Not literally, it's not a chiptune

Literally the most weeb out the ass class ever made and now people will be able to see your fedora ingame and not just in real life, plus it's bloated, the single most played class in the game, and no raid utility

Literally why would ANYONE take a samurai, fucking FC member #37 over there probably levelled the class while bored, except i know him so i ll just take him along

The game's combat is actually very good, but the problem is that it takes 100 hours to unlock the abilities and content tat make it so

So you've only ever run casual content then

you got booted for a SAM, didn't you

> 20 minutes q for a mandatory story quest dungeon
Uninstall

>not having a tank or healer leveled
>not doing beast tribe quests or crafting in the meanwhile if you don't

>Not having friends to queue with

>Close to $150 in sub fees

yup I've always been the one with shit taste in the group

On average, what's faster to run, the Arboretum or Pharos Hard? Trying to get the both Plague sets

DRG

Arboretum

>Close to $150 in sub fees a month to continue playing
What are you trying to say here?

Haha, not on your life

Pharos has the doggo boss which wipes evryone right?

I'm assuming he can't multiply 15x12 in his head so he rounded down to as close as he could