Is the sequel to Tales of Symphonia as bad as everyone says it is?

Is the sequel to Tales of Symphonia as bad as everyone says it is?

I've only heard bad things, which sucks because best ninja doesn't appear anywhere else besides those two games

The main character is the quintessential ultimate soy fuccboi.

Marta deserved better

>Here, it's ToS DotNW.
>Thanks.
>Bad, isn't it?
>Yeah. Really bad.
>It's actually a good sequel.
>...What?
>I had Namco make it great.
>Oh, hehe, yeah, of course it's good.
>I lied. It's actually terrible.

Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.

Yes it's bad.

It's pretty below average
Its kinda like FFXIII-2 gameplay with monster raising in your party but worse
But if you're a huge fan of Symphonia, you can at least enjoy the skits which are actually really good
you could check it out or leave it, you wouldn't be missing much

Watch the cutscenes on Youtube, don't bother playing the game. Emil and Marta are insufferable for a good portion of the game, and Richter has some serious-grade autism. Also the villains are half-elves again, because when aren't they? Tenebrae is good though.

>Sheena asks Colette if Lloyd said anything about her
>Colette responds that yes, Lloyd did ask her about how she was doing after she fell down a pit again
>Sheena swoons and walks away

Sheena a best, I wish the second game was actually good, but I don't even have the system to play it on anymore

I hate that they weren't able to get a bunch of the VAs back, so a lot of characters have voices that don't fit anymore.

And yes, Sheena a best. She and Regal get good comedy focus here.

ToS2 was basically a B team adventure while the A team was making Vesperia.

-Emil is annoying...
-Marta equally so.
-There's a very confusing plotpoint regarding Emil's identity which brings more questions than answers
-While Richter isn't a bad character, his backstory is basically the same as Mithos.

Though on the other hand...
-Having the old gang as party members is pretty good.
-I enjoyed recruiting monsters...even if some kinda sucked at fighting...
-Good music and good gameplay as usual...

Most of my issues come down to the story.

I'd rather play Zestiria 5 times than play that shit again.

The story concept is at least interesting, but everything else is fucking horrible. The overworld is like Mario 3, there's an annoying ass monster taming/training and element system that even to this day people haven't figured out exactly how it works, the combat is actually worse than Symphonia, despite Symphonia being the first Tales game with full 3d and their first attempt at a 3d battle system, and the animations are wonky.
I'm a huge Tales fan, and Symphonia 2 is easily the worst in the series by a large margin.

kek

The story gets more interesting the closer to the end it is, but in the beginning it sucks really bad. Too much time spent on that damn light frog.

Not really, tales of phantasia is pretty good.

>the combat is actually worse than Symphonia
No, the combat is not good but it's better than Symphonia.
>and Symphonia 2 is easily the worst in the series by a large margin.
>Saying this when shit like Tempest or Zesty exists

It's disappointing. The new main characters are pretty bad, a lot of the old cast acts very out of character to keep the plot going, the forming a party out of monsters mechanic isn't very well fleshed out, there's no world map at all you just pick places to go from a list, side quests have been turned into MMO style "go to x cave and kill n number of monsters", and the overall plot is just kind of lackluster. It's like a 4.5 or 5 out of 10, with Symphonia being a solid 7 even account for nostalgia.

They also couldn't get Lloyd's original VA back and his new one is fucking terrible.

>the combat is actually worse than Symphonia
I played them back to back not too long ago as my first Tales games and DotN's combat was a big jump in quality.

>Having the old gang as party members is pretty good.

Shame they can't level up which was fucking retarded. They didn't fix it in the HD Collection.

dude i played it because i had nothing else to play, it was awful, painful, its literally the worst JRPG i have ever played
also COURAGE IS THE MAGIC THAT TURNS DREAMS INTO REALITY

Marta has left the partyMarta has joined the party

its not terrible but its not good. they didnt want to make a new worldmap and they reuse every old area.
it has some new battle system where you can use monsters as team members which is cool.

however while you can also use the old symphonia characters, they cap at level 50.