Is it just a meme?

is it just a meme?

right yeah, a little bit yeah. especially if all you do is play games.

hmm

just like i7 was a meme when it came out.

7900x here

Its not a meme if you arent a soyboy that just plays games on it.

VR is a meme

For gaming? Yeah. There are absolutely no games that would max out an i7 even at 4K besides edge cases like AC:Origins and it's VMprotect bullshit.

i7 7070k and i5 8600k are the kings of gaming right now

overkill, but its good

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Unless you are streaming and rendering a video at the same time while gaming, then yeah.

Does they fix meltdown and spectre?

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Meltdown is fixed by installing microcode update that your motherboard manufacturer hopefully released. Spectre is unfixable and is found on both Intel and AMD.

If you only play games go with a lower tier i7, i9 is esentially a low end server/workstation tier CPU
If you care about security get a ryzen you plebian

They were both caused by hardware oversight though, are you saying they fucked up their i9's as well?

Delid this!

lol everything is a me-me xD

forever alone xD

hey guys when are the gpu prices going down? my leaf ass wants a 1070 for less than $800

soon. bitcoin is going down hard. went from 13k to 9k

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Yeah, the i9 is fucking junk.

What in the fuck does this even mean?

If you arent just playing games and shit on it then it isn't a meme. It's meant for tasks that take advantage of highly concurrent tasks which games don't do. It's a workstation chip that I use for video editing and simulation work.

It's completely a meme
It get's it's shit kicked in by threadripper at a lower price point and will burn down your house with insane power consumption and mount doom levels of heat
It can consume up to 250-300 watts, toms hardware had an insane liquid cooling setup with a chiller and couldn't keep the thing under 70c

8700k*

fixed that for you

If you're doing that, why not get a Ryzen 7 chip? It does it better and for less money.

LOL day of the rake!!!!!11!

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You're gonna trigger the shekelstein with that statement
>m-muh 720p low settings 800 fps gameplay

>If you arent just playing games and shit on it then it isn't a meme. It's meant for tasks that take advantage of highly concurrent tasks which games don't do. It's a workstation chip that I use for video editing and simulation work.

Are you trying to tell me that it's only meant for badass hardcore gamers?

from what I remember the performance in some games was worse than a 7700K, right now all the four cores intel lines are just badly outdated compared to the coffeelakes that have 6/6 and 6/12 anyway

>still rocking a 4690k and an rx 380x
time for an upgrade?
not like i can fucking afford a gpu right now

>tfw really need a new chip but spectre and meltdown probably won't be fixed until next year

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Wouldn't bother. Cost/performance for RAM and GPUs are fucked and in terms of CPU you won't see much of an improvement, especially as the Meltdown fixes cripple performance.
Then there's the real question - for which games would you want to upgrade? Most shit either runs well on what you got or won't run decently on high-end hardware either way.

Can someone give me a quick rundown

165w TDP

>actually nearly 2x higher

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damaged

500w power draw at max load

>500w
I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty high.

It's basically a tech demo to prove that even with old Intel architecture they still beat Ryzen in performance but not in price.

I believe the i9 are just rebranded old Xeons. Intel has no real aspirations for it to sell by the truckload like they do with their desktop i7 and i5 line.

The motherboards themselves are not obsolete though since Cannon Lake-X is the supposed """enthusiast/prosumer""" line they will shit out and unlike the first generation they're not Xeon rebrands but rather new architecture.

Yes, they're pieces of shit. It's better to get a Xeon if you're going to do heavier workloads, or save money and get a Threadripper.

>they still beat Ryzen in performance

>I believe the i9 are just rebranded old Xeons

No, if they were rebranded old Xeons they would

1) Run cooler
2) Draw less power
3) Support ECC memory
4) Have more PCI-E lanes
5) Actually solder the xbox-hueg processor die to the IHS

The last one especially, it's understandable with their i5s and i7s because the dies are too small for soldering, but these behemoths should have been soldered.

I have a 3570k and r9 380, wouldn't even really be able to effectively upgrade at this point without essentially building a whole new PC. VR is the only thing I'd want to upgrade for but I'm already on the cusp of being able to play VR. Maybe I should just get a rift and then wait a few years and try new models when I upgrade my pc.

People will always believe the bluejew seeing as there will always be stupid people

Yea Ryzen is great if you wanna get superb winzip performance.

>500w
lol

>Cinebench=winzip

>I'd rather have worse performance overall for more money

I know but the point being that games cannot utilize the octacore meme into their supposed theorized maximum effeciency.

They can't for skylake-x and kabylake-x either
8 cores actually run superbly today, more and more devs are moving over to multi-core especially in DX12 titles.

Building a "gaming" computer is the bullshit meme. Too bad everybody is obsessed with the latest AAA cinematic lootbox machine to actually play games. If they weren't any old desktop would be good enough. Thousands of the greatest games ever made and nobody plays them. Too busy consuming. Consume. Consume. Consume. Obey.

>have ryzen 1700x
>run dx11 benchmark
>67 fps
>run DX12 bechnmark
>68 fps
DX 12 is a meme.

>I-It's just a mayme trust meeeeeee

Man I miss being 16...

>500 w

what a meme fuck dx12

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Yes

>techdemo
Actually try a game next time.

>tech demo
>it's not a game unless I say it is reeeeeee

if its not a 24fps cinematic story telling experience its not a game user get that through your skull

I do a lot of vectorized programming and work (that utilizes AVX-512) and I do a lot of stuff involving virtualization. Virtualizing OSX operating systems require an intel processor at the moment. And yea I got some intel-favoring bias. I havent touched AMD in 3 years.

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it's never necessary to go above an i5 for gaming. i7 and above are for workstation PCs that will make use of the extra threads/cores

>Fire burning on the motherboard

>Virtualizing OSX operating systems
Is it absolutely essential to use OSX?
Isn't there some sort of linux alternative?

Sick burn dude.

Yes goy, upgrade to Windows 10™. You will get a 100000% fps increase with DX12 we promise!

I'm on a windows machine, but within windows I have to develop software that works on other platforms such as OSX too, so I run a few VMs and run some exhaustive unit tests.
Also a lot of compilers out there for C and C++ are somewhat favoring of the intel architecture(it's pipeline and throughput and scheduling and so forth) unfortunately. Including MSVC.

>29C

C
>idle
alright dood

I got an 8700k and i like it fine

Sorry, money doesn't play games for you. Keep on buying the latest games and hardware though. I'm sure that will eventually make you happy.

delid this

Meme does not mean "bad" or "things I don't like", so no.

You may be right then in that case, I've only really had VMs for debi/ubuntu/arch and old windows versions

I've not spent a ton of time writing/compiling but from my experience it always seemed easier to compile on linux, with it being able to link to libraries automatically as opposed to manually having to point the system to them (IE ACE libs) but I could see the actual interaction with your code being easier using MSVC as opposed to something like nano/vim

>he thinks this is idle, and not clearly under the cpu-mining load that having Sup Forums open implies

I love compiling on linux and use cmake for everything. And even with visual studio I use its ability to open cmake projects directly rather than its whole solution-whatever format.
Building it on linux/osx is as easy as making a build folder and doing "cmake .. && make"

I use vim on linux and I'm only so lightly involved on osx but I use visual studio code there since its easy to deploy across multiple OSX versions.

Anyways yea, 7900x.

I also do video work on it and it's great when the software actually utilizes all the cores, which software like After Effects tends to lack in a lot of its plugins and features.

It's literally under idle, you're not going to convince anyone otherwise
Just because you have some tabs open doesn't mean shit

Delidding is spooky besides temps at 5ghz are fine and im too casual for heavier OC

not me

But yea I have chrome(like 9 tabs) and steam and KiTTy and 3ds max(doing nothing) and such open and im at 29. Which isn't bad at all yo.

That's literally nothing going on with your computer
There is essentially no load at all

Go put a big 3ds max load on it and burn your house down pls

even if it is idle, its not bad:

80C Hot (100% Load)
75C Warm
70C Warm (Heavy Load)
60C Norm
50C Norm (Medium Load)
40C Norm
30C Cool (Idle)
25C Cool

>real shit normie meme
it's idle, of course it's not bad
idle is not bad because NOTHING is happening. I'm idling right now at 27 and it means nothing

Isn't AMD being forced to take on a fix it doesn't need so intel can not get totally ass raped in performance?

Yes
They try to claim AMD is it "just as hard" with spectre but it's not true at all. Damage control articles have been written since day one claiming AMD is going to lose large amounts of performance and they are affected too but AMD has released several public statements essentially saying "no that's bullshit we are fine stop lying".

>60C Norm
I don't even break 60c with full blender loads and you claim 50c is supposed to be a medium load?

>Go put a big 3ds max load on it and burn your house down pls

I'm trying man but it ain't cookin

Can AMD escape it? I want to build a gaming computer soon but considered waiting for Ryzen 2 to come out so a 1600 will drop in price but if Intel forced AMD under its boot I may just have to go intel.

Big load user, that's not a big load. Look at the CPU usage. Pin them at 100 and let it sit for a while.

>13% load
>some cores hitting 50c

>fluctuation between 87 and 13
>thinks the 13% is making it 50c

??????? how do those two things have any correlation

>fluctuations
>I'm trying to burn it
No you're not, you're trying to weasel around the request with simple fluid dynamic simulations instead of actual loads.

What do you do on your pc that isnt games that you think makes buying a 7900x worth it??