Video games cant be ar-

>video games cant be ar-

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Videogames can't be art. They can be art exhibits, but that's it

Why does it matter if video games are or are not art?
What changes if they are? What changes if they aren't?

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We may get better journos.

>draws standalone picture
>hurr durr "idz ze art!"
>draws multitude of pictures to become part of a videogame
>"pfft, can't be art never ever"

game journalists are obsolete with the advent of youtube

I fucking love Machinarium
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why do you think it's art?

The OST is really good.
>youtube.com/watch?v=OYd7PbGEOus

same here... Is it me or Amanita Design have gotten lazy with their Chuchel that looks a bit too much like Botanicula - mostly white / non-existent backgrounds and adventure time faces on geometrically shaped simple characters?

the greenhouse and that prison theme are a pinnacle of the entire album

Something doesn't have to be good to be art.

and, most importantly - vice versa

>music cant be art, i mean, duh, you are not seeing something pretty imma right?

its so fucking stupid that videogames are defined as art with the standards of other mediums, the quality that differentiates videogames from other types of expression should be the reason they are art. Gameplay, player input, etc., things you cant do in other shit.

i fucking love machinarium tho

FUCK THIS GAME

you can't prove it to 50 art critic judging it from youtube video for example
give it another 30 years

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I've been meaning to finish this game.
As usual with puzzlegames like this some puzzle which I couldn't get through came up and I gave up on the game.
Highly athmospheric and truly great artstyle.

Never was much into point-and-clicks but I recently played and enjoyed pic related. Thoughts?

everyone secretly reads walkthroughs on point and clicks they take special kind of logic,
you can get though these fast if you know how to take right approach

too short
pixelart bullshit
decent atmosphere though

While on the topic of artsy puzzle games, what are Sup Forums's thoughts on The Swapper?

generic sidescroller

this is the only game i'd consider art.

fpbp

This was a great game but that end seemed too abrupt.

I think Samrost and Machinarium are made by the same team lead. Botanicula and Chuchel are made by another another.

A j2me-tier game with pwetty graphics and the narrative that's pretty much pure englishlit "muh art" elitist schizophasia.
Play The Fall instead.

i enjoyed oxenfree, some character descisions were dumb but it was atmospheric and i really liked the entire gang

>that fucking peg puzzle
>the update that made the peg possible impossible to cheese in some versions of the game

Art is subjective you pleb

I assune you mean either entering the city or that stupid bullshit peg puzzle.
The peg puzzle has a walkthrough but some versions of the game randomize it further.

>Machinarium
hot damn thats good

Beneath a steel sky was a decent point and click outside that one pixel hunt scene.