ITT we cheat like Todd Rogers

ITT we cheat like Todd Rogers

"The previous world record for Super Metroid was 41:49. I beat it in 25:00 on my first try."

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I beat Watch for Rolling Rocks in 1/4th of an A press.

>"The previous world record for Super Metroid was 41:49. I beat it in 25:00 on my first try."

>not getting a final score of 115%
It's like you don't even have the human element!

youtube.com/watch?v=HX_BE7ICo44

Why is this guy such a salty, bitter autist? He is so angry in all of his videos that vilify """corrupt""" speedrunning. Lighten up retard and take a look at where you are.

I main Chun-li in SFV and can play a ft10 set WITHOUT having to masturbate afterwards.

I got 85 kills in a Counter Strike match.

The joke is that 80 is the maximum amount of kills possible in a game.

>he doesn't know about quarter presses
youtube.com/watch?v=PIKm0cM4KjA

Because he's annoyed that TG is a group of lying cunts trying to desperately maintain their fame and he's just some random guy. All this information was public and it took his video for things to happen.

I love how he managed to trigger half the internet with a made up definition about "half press".

I fucking knew you would have an Apollo Legend link. That guy is so goddamn autistic about speedrunning it is hilarious.

you can't cheat if you don't even play the game

based todd doesn't even waste his time on that fucking nerd shit but he takes 1st place in them all, only a fucking alpha can walk into an arcade and tell them "give me impossible world records" 1700 times and get away with it for this long

he might live with his mom but he fucks yours

He sleeps on the floor, user

He is veteran Sup Forums poster which explains a lot of things.

Is there a reason why you guys come into these threads to shit on autistic speedrunners? Are you just that desperate to get some contrarian (You)'s or what?

My record for Xenoblade Chronicles is 1 hour.

He didn't cheat. You just never saw his human element.

I dont believe you.

Apollo Legend is an idiot.

He is the legendary super gamer.

I don't see anyone denying that.

the floor of his mom's house or twin galaxies?

>you need to update your home to the death barrier

And this impacts Todd being a massive fraud how?

Man I just don't like how smug Apollo is, he's a cunt. Speedrunners are mostly fine.
That exif-exposed photoshop is certainly damning, but I agree that runs need to be graded with rigor. Not even sure how SDA does it when there are things we have only discovered in the past two years that reshape the way games are ran.

I honestly don't give a fuck. It gets old every Todd Rodgers or TG thread to have retards go UM EXCUSE ME WERE YOU AWARE THAT I DON'T LIKE APOLLO?

>not laughing at old men clinging to past glories
Twin Galaxies is like the low-stakes version of the vice like grip old bitter men have over business and society as a whole. Only those people are legitimately untouchable.

In Bioshock I led Ryan away from his evil right wing ways and turned Rapture into a utopia of inclusiveness and tolerance.

>Super Metroid
>score

If you watch the video he explains the half press in a way that makes perfect sense.

Not anymore. Todd got BTFO, Billy got BTFO, and they lost their standing with Guinness. So they're basically irrelevant dinosaurs at this point.

I beat the OoT mail man by 5 seconds.

>not getting the Super Shinespark to access the OOB areas and collect extra containers and homing lasers

>speedrunning thread
>stop talking about speedrunners
>especially one that planted himself in the thick of the drama "d-did you know I did that?? he's banned from shilling his records now. no longer the king. that was all me - apollo legend"

He didn't say it was all him, he very plainly said that he played a major role though. Which is absolutely true since TG was dragging their asses for ages since the Omnigamer stuff. Apollo gives him most of the credit and even shills his book.

Also this thread isn't about speedrunning, unless you're so fucking stupid you think Todd Rodgers is a speedrunner.

being a faggot isnt an achievement

I have seen the video.
TJ was right,one action is accomplished when the button reaches the floor therefore button is pressed one time.
Just like you pull the trigger on the gun,one(1) round fires and the action is called -pulling the trigger-.
When you release the trigger it is called trigger reset.
With the press the trigger the action cycles,round is fired,new round is chambered and the one firing action was completed.
Releasing the trigger does noting to the gun but placing the trigger to be pressed for the second trigger pull.

When you shoot at a guy you cant say that you only fired half a round because you haven't released the trigger.

>american analogy

ok "Henry"

Next time I will let only half immigrant over the border.

nice bait

There is a concept in javascript "programming" of keypresses. Specifically keydown, keyup, and keypress. A keydown fires when the key is first pressed down, a keyup on release and a keypress is when the entire action is done at once. A presses in Mario work the same way.

Completition rate=/=Score

Yeah there's no difference between a whole press and half a press in the context of a single level, but in the context of an entire playthrough, it does matter. That's what he explains in the video. If all you need is for A to be held down until a certain part of the level, then you can use the actual press from a previous level to facilitate that. That's what he means by half a press. You press A down in one level, then release it later in a different level, both "halves" of the press counting as a single press for the total run.

Yes I see where he is coming from.
But just because one action has 2 components it doesn't mean the individual components can be counted as half the action.

The action JUMP is completed with the activation of the first component - pressing down -
The second part of the action does nothing -releasing the button-
Since the second part of the action does nothing it is not relevant to the execution of the action JUMP.
You still performed one action - one jump - one component activation.

> You press A down in one level, then release it later in a different level, both "halves" of the press counting as a single press for the total run.
I understand you but that is still one press not matter how long you are holding the button down.
As I explained my reasoning to the previous user.
Unless the second component does something on release in the action JUMP is completed in one component activation.
Like a trigger of a gun.

While you're reading this pic, I want you to think about how long it took for Hollywood to do something about Harvey Weinstein.

If people will be this complacent over a fucking video game score - no wonder people don't speak up.

that's nothing

didn't this absolute superhuman get a score of like 60 million in a game where the fucking 2nd place was 50.000 points or some shit?

theres nothing criminal about being a bitter autist. being a bitter cheater? thats criminal,.

Fuck you for making me fall down this YouTube hole again. I'm now learning about Scuttlebug Transportation.

You obviously haven't watched the video, or if you have, then you willfully ignored the parts that explain the half press. It's not the release that's important for the level in question, it's keeping A held down until a certain point. The number of presses only matters in the context of a full run. "Half press" just indicates that you can utilize the press from a different level and only really matters when you break the entire run down into individual levels.

Wouldn't that be a 2/3 press though?

>you need to update your home to the death barrier

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12r8Hi8QuIedNKsyrVIyjw4S8194YtnEiGVZxqEx-b7U/edit#gid=0

>Fathom
>Todd's score: 1,110,500
>Second best score: 142
>Proven score of 142 took approx 2.5 minutes. WR estimate = 325+ hours

no thats 2.5 presses

>docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12r8Hi8QuIedNKsyrVIyjw4S8194YtnEiGVZxqEx-b7U/edit#gid=0

Just as an aside, Fathom looks like a pretty cool game. Like the inspiration for Ecco the Dolphin.

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We are clearly not understanding each other.
I have an automatic gun right next to me.
When I pull the trigger once the action continues to be executed no matter what I do.
It is still one(1) trigger pull.

Lets say I have a goal to go to the bathroom(clear rolling rocks).
If I pull the trigger of my gun and kill you in my kitchen,continue to hold the trigger to complete my main action which is walk in my bathroom take a piss while holding the trigger and go outside while still holding the trigger that is still one trigger pull,one level cleared (taking a piss) and one person killed.
Therefore I have managed to take a piss while holding the trigger of my gun which I pressed once(1).

Now if you say that I have only taken a half piss I will die laughing.

Okay, now you move on to level 2. Your goal is to go to McDonalds for a burger. In order to do this, you must kill the man who guards the entrance. You still have your automatic gun and infinite magazine from before, when you had to go to the bathroom. For some reason, you are trying to complete this game with the fewest trigger pulls possible, so you keep the trigger held down the entire way there until you have reached McDonalds and shot the man. You have finished both levels with one total trigger pull. In the context of a tutorial video, you might explain that, when breaking the levels down, level 2 can be completed with half a trigger pull, meaning only that you capitalized on the original trigger pull from level 1. This is, of course, a meaningless distinction except in the context of the tutorial video.

You are contradicting yourself.
By that definition you have completed level 2 without any trigger pulls.
You cant carry over trigger pull from level 1 at the same time you are spawned in level 2 from thin air.
Its either you complete level 1 and move to level 2 or you start level 2 from clean slate.
I guess philosophically you could argue that the chicken came before the egg but thats up to you and the guy that made the video.

Rogers didn't "cheat" per say, he just had an issue with people entering his times wrong.

The point is that it doesn't matter except in the context of the entire game. One pull for the whole game. The trigger needed to remain pulled for the entirety of level 2, so it's disingenuous to say that you completed it without any pulls.

My point in the previous post is that is that the level Rolling Rocks can exist in two (2) states.

1.Continue from the previous level to rolling rocks
2.Directly spawn into the level rolling rocks.
There is no third option.

1.If you take the first option it is one press throughout the whole run because you carry over the press through the multiple levels and you complete rolling rocks with that one (1) press.

2.If you take the second option and start the level from the clean slate it is still one press because you clean spawned into rolling rocks and you have to press JUMP to finish the level.
It is still one press.

The option you and the guy with the video is offering is that you can clean spawn into roiling rocks and have a half press to complete the level.
That is a paradox equivalent to the chicken or the egg.
A flawed conception of a problem that can not exist.

>Aight Todd what score did you get in the video game
>I got twelve thousand
>Sixteen million, got it

And my point is that how many presses you decide to attribute to an individual level doesn't matter as long as you are accurately counting presses across THE ENTIRE GAME. When you press A in one level and keep it held until a certain part of another level, it doesn't matter if you decide to denote that as half on one and half on the other, or a whole press on one and no presses on the other. The total number of presses for both levels is 1. Denoting it as half a press is only useful in the context of an explanation. You are focusing too much on the press count of the individual level when that isn't how these types of speedruns are scored.

Why does Twin Galaxies have so many sex offenders?

You know the first level in Goldeneye? The one where you jump off the dam? Yeah I just beat it in 0:26 seconds on agent (old record was 52 seconds)

>Denoting it as half a press is only useful in the context of an explanation.
Precisely.
Hit the nail on the head.
You arbitrary accept that rolling rocks can be completed with half a press in an imaginary world.
It is a theoretical video on non existent problem that offers non applicable solution in a real run.
In conclusion TJ was right.

You are aware that the video is an explanation video for how the level can be completed in the fewest number of A presses for the purposes of a very specific type of speedrun, right?

You don't understand, user. He takes speedrunning very seriously.

In order to complete a speed run you link levels tgether to progress.
Rolling rocks has to be linked.
Globally the complete the speedrun will be completed with one press.
You can say that rolling rocks took half a press and you can say each level took 0.025 presses.
The use scenario you propose is on a "non possible" run of the game.

In order to complete the speed run you link levels together,carry over press from one level to the next.
That is still one press no matter how you look at it.

That's if you blow the other team out of the fucking water
Max you can get with both sides 15-15 is 150 if you kill them all on CT but leave the bomb

pardon my obvious typos

>The use scenario you propose is on a "non possible" run of the game.
In what way is it impossible?

Rolling rocks can exist in two (2) ways.
1.Continue from the previous level to rolling rocks (complete a linked speedrun)
2.Directly spawn into the level rolling rocks.(clear only that specific level)
There is no third option.

1.If you take the first option it is one press throughout the whole run because you carry over the press through the multiple levels and you complete rolling rocks with that one (1) press.

2.If you take the second option and start the level from the clean slate it is still one press because you clean spawned into rolling rocks and you have to press JUMP to finish the level.
It is still one press.

Imagine our hypothetical game from before, with the gun. The two levels we described together compose the entire game. After you receive your McDonalds, the credits roll. How many trigger pulls did we perform OVER THE COURSE OF THE ENTIRE GAME?

One press

it's in the context of a full game run, retard. It's the same A press as he held before going into the stage. The total number of A presses doesn't magically go up, but he wants to denote an A press was utilized before hand in the actual standalone level for clarity.

Ok, now do it multiple times in front of a live audience like Todd did.

Is this image bait? Quite a few things on this fucking image are just flat out wrong.

So then you understand that the way you denote the number of presses in each level is inconsequential as long as you are consistently counting presses across the entire run of all levels?

billy is next

>Human element
>3 results
Still forcing your shitty meme I see.

>The previous world record for Super Metroid was 41:49

Zoast got 41:24 on Feb 1st

>mfw Billy Mitchell is getting BTFO now

>next

It's already happening.

Not really

I dont know if you are intentionally dense or you are pulling my leg at this point.
WE BOTH agree that there is only 1 press.
In order to complete that level alone or link it through multiple stages you still need to press a button once.
WE BOTH concluded that there is no such thing as half press because the nature of the action performed.

By that reasoning if I complete 15 stages with 1 press of a button,I can take any level like ex.rolling rocks and say it was completed with 0.06 presses.
Each level from those 15 takes precisely 0.06 presses to be completed.
This basic notion that you propose it not only paradoxical but also under false assumptions that you can spawn into rolling rocks from a clean slate and have half press magically loaded into the game without touching a button.

I farted and it was real stinky

Holy shit you dense fucking fuck.
It doesn't matter how many presses each individual level takes. Only the entire run matters
It doesn't matter how many presses each individual level takes. Only the entire run matters
It doesn't matter how many presses each individual level takes. Only the entire run matters
It doesn't matter how many presses each individual level takes. Only the entire run matters

The title of the video is Rolling Rocks - 0.5x A Presses which as I showed is arguably a false statement and TJ "Henry" was right.
One press is one press be that through entire run or a single segment(level like rolling rocks.)

Don't worry, Billy always has a plan

0.5 button presses is runner/router shorthand for:
"This strategy adds 1 press if done as an IL, but adds 0 presses if done in a full game run"
They just don't want to write that out every time.

Okay, obviously your problem is with the denotation. How would you indicate that, for the level to be completed, A needs only to be held down until a certain point in the level, but that a jump is not required, so A can be held from a previous level?

note how you used the term "1 press".
There is no such thing as 0.5 press as I presented.
The whole thing is a joke that got presented with a straight face and a false logic which got way out of hand.
2 million people accepted this notion of a "half press" as truth.

Because the strategy adds 1 press in certain situations, and 0 in others and they wanted a concise way to communicate that?
What's the split between 1 sometimes and 0 sometimes?

>press and hold A on level 1
>keep A held until no longer necessary on level 2, then release
How do you denote this situation when making a title for a tutorial video about level 2?

irrelevant because he pressed the button one time. its not half a button

This. Its fucking embarrassing how obvious this is and how few outlets are actually speaking up. It took some bored annoyed kid to really get the ball rolling; so much for the leaders in the industry.

You look pretty autistic comparing Allison Rapp to literal child rapists, just saying. This is why people roll their eyes at GG spergs.

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By adding a comment in the description stating that yes he used one press is used to clear two levels and mathematically thats 0.5 presses for each cleared level.
The term 0.5 presses is arbitrarily/loosly used in example case scenario.

There I save the whole TJ "Henry" storm

I can't believe I spent all this time trying to make you understand when the entire problem is just that you're not happy with the way the community has decided to describe something.

>every ten years or so
>NEW PASSWORD FOUND FOR METROID, NEVER SEEN BEFORE, WORLD RECORD EXTRA NEW, THIS GUY HERE ON OUR TEAM IS THE FIRST PERSON EVER TO FIND IT
>It's Justin Bailey and Narpasswordo