Yakuza 1 or Yakuza Kiwami?

Which game is more worth playing as someone who wants to get into the Yakuza series?

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To clarify, I played up to the prison of Yakuza 1 by emulating it
Other than input lag it runs fine, but Im wondering if the remake is more worth my time

Kiwanis for sure my man, it's fuckin amazing

I think kiwami is definitely a better game but not as good of a starting point, since then you will have go backwards in tech to play the next one. Since it isn't just a remaster, it is yakuza 1 in the yakuza 0 engine with yakuza 0's gameplay, and it kind of assumes you have already played yakuza 0, so if you want to start with kiwami I would recommend playing 0 first but otherwise just stick to release order.

I dont mind sticking to the ps2 Yakuza, I'd prefer to play them in release order than go from 0
I know theres additions in the remake, are they worth experiencing for the first time too, as opposed to whats in the ps2 version?

I also dont mind going back in tech, I did it for the Resident Evil games and it was fine

in my opinion yakuza 1 for ps2 is completly fine and i think you should try it first. i did the mistake of playing twin lakes before the original psx and it was a mistake

If you're going to get Kiwami you should get 0 first as Kiwami pretty much carries on from 0 and a lot of things regarding Nishiki are much more fleshed out in it and will hit harder. I mean, you can start with Kiwami if you want but it's intended as a jump off of 0 due to the references and the character building 0 brought to the table. At the end of the day it's still 1 just remade. With your other posts you seem like you'd rather just go release order and that's perfectly fine.

i tried yakuza 1 emulated and gave up after 7 hours. It's super repetitive gameplay wise and the plot is rather boring.

Most of the new additions in kiwami are references and stuff that links to yakuza 0, which is why people recommend playing 0 before kiwami, 0 also makes it's story a lot better by developing characters that were pretty underdeveloped in the original. So I say either start with 0 or start with the original, if you start with 0 the story and gameplay will end up better but you won't get the satisfaction of playing through the series as it gets better gameplay every game, yakuza 2 actually has pretty good gameplay though for a ps2 game so it won't be that hard to go back if you do want to do that.

If you got the systems to get into it I'd say release order to see the games progress and improve with each iteration.
That and the series does callbacks or reuses assets from older games so they're nice to spot.

Yeah I guess I'll just go for starting with the original, mainly because I dont have a ps4 to play 0
I've started emulating the game using these settings, it runs fine but I'm experiencing some input delay which isn't too bad but can be kinda annoying, any idea why that is?

So when do you think the west will get ga Gotoku? 2021?

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>That and the series does callbacks or reuses assets from older games so they're nice to spot.
Oh, speaking of which, here's everything I could spot in 0, anyone know if I missed anything?

I don't have any on 0. Mainly because no plans on getting a ps4
But I did notice they reused a feel the heat action in kiwami 2 against Majima.
Except it's just a QTE now instead of a feeltheheat, same camera angle as well.

You've sort of got it already, but Fei Hu brings up the Tennen Rishin style and the Shinsengumi from Ishin.

Always play originals. Remakes are for casuals.

I know he brought it up but I thought him specifically using Majima's style was more important to mention.

I agree, although Kiwami is very good so I can understand the arguments. However Kiwami 2 is absolutely not a replacement for 2, so you'd be going from Kiwami back to 2, which would definitely seem jarring back-to-back. At which point, you may as well start with 1 to begin with so you could look forward to Kiwami later on

I'm playing 2 now after having only played 0 and Kiwami. I would recommend playing like this in a heartbeat. It's not a bad jump, really.

>It's not a bad jump, really.
It's the jump from 0 to 1 that's a bit harsher instead of going from 0 to Kiwami since 1 was the first one obviously but it also had some very rough targeting mechanics and while it had a decent chunk of content, compared to even 2 it was kind of lacking in that respect.

It's Y1 that's dated, not Y2. Y2 improved massively on Y1 and the combat is basically unchanged in the PS3 titles from Y2 other than few extra moves for Kiryu.

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>you'd be going from Kiwami back to 2, which would definitely seem jarring back-to-back

Literally the only jarring thing would be graphics and the fixed camera angles during exploration.