Dual-wielding

>dual-wielding

When will this meme end? Development resources can be spent on better combat instead of this shit

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>scraping the leg counts as a tko
when will greatsword fags just accept that buster sized swords are just fantasy

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More like idiots dual wielding.
These fighting styles were last resorts for archers when hit by infantry. And they were supposed to be used offensively not deffensively, those guys should have thrown their weight against the arms of the opponent the moment he was prepping his swing.

>too pussy to close any distance against a longer range weapon than yours

reasonable examples user, not cherry picked at all.

Nah those guys just suck. First guy doesn't weirld a parrying dagger properly. Second guy has piss poor reflexes. Third guy oh shit what are you doing idiot.

>muh realism
You have games with magic, dragons and female warriors, and complain about dual wielding because it's unrealistic?

But dual wielding looks cool.

>dual wielding
>guy is against a wall and not charging.
What's next, heavy armor is impractical and your example is a guy with his boots nailed to the ground?

>HEMA
fucking nests of greasy metalfags manchildren

>greatsword masterrace stomping dual-wielders, dex-fags and other assorted unmanly scrubs

What's that style called where you hold one dagger underhand while the other is normal?

They felt bad for him for not having friends, so they let him win. They later had a party at the dual-wielder's house but didn't invite greatsword.

stupid

where do I go to fight other adults with sticks

Why would you ever hold a blade underhand?

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>What's that style called where you hold one dagger underhand while the other is normal?

The Soy Stance

Wait shit. I meant to post the one where the guys are decked out in knight attire, and a random dude comes in and kicks a guy's head in. Anyone have it?

This. When you have a shield, FUCKING USE IT YOU MORON. Focus on the counterattack only after you've blocked his assault and then use the closed distance to your advantage.

The cool ninjas in my weeb games do it.

Let's see your sword stand up to my dual crossbows

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How can dexfags even compete

There it be. Thank you. Shit looks brutal.

The rooty tooty fresh and fruity

Agreed, but it's worth pointing out that dual wielding has a purpose in certain contexts

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His opponent was shit, he just stood there.
Duel wielding is for high agility uses who dance around and shit.
That was a heavy swing he should have dodged it, commando roll while he's lifting his heavy arse sword and sliced him to pieces.

so autistic

you play too much dark souls, faggot

You speak as if someone actually ever used dual wielding in history

ive heard it called florentine but i dont know for sure.

that guy is a manlet

WHAT ARE SOME GAMES WITH DUAL WIELDING FUCKIN SHIELDS

1vs1 me in real life faggot bring your heavy sword you over compensator str fag.

Sai were designed to be dual wielded.

>dark souls.gif
that's clearly dark messiah of might and magic gameplay

Is there a book that can teach me about the logistics of medieval melee combat? I am interested in learning about the specifics, how middle age warfare developed, how technologies and counter technologies were invented, and the specifics about how to approach a melee fight against an armored knight, which weapons have advantages over other weapons, etc. I would even listen to a podcast about this topic. Maybe I should ask /k/

The Florentine JUST

>See guy with big as fuck sword
>Stay still instead of closing in

I mean, any long weapon has a disadvantage if you get closer
Its exactly why the great sword was usually used with a hand in the extension of the blade , to be used in close range

Jesus christ these fat fucks and their armchair sword mastery knowledge

Real life isn't like your Congolese cartoons, user.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi

This is the guy who beat Sasaki Kojirou and his washing pole.

Sais were hardly used in war
Dueling is the only use for dual wielding
Any situation where you dont actually have a shield or limited space involved

Are they LARPing as jedi as something, because I don't see why else a tiny feather tap means instant death.

>2018
>Still no game with good fencing type jabs
Sad!

This is hardly dual wielding , musashi used his scabbard to parry not attack
Like any use of dual wielding recorded

Now show me a simulation of this guy in a big fight with multiple people, not a ceremonial duel with specific rules.

this

dual wielder was just an idiot. this is why the best home defense weapons are either a gun or a 20 inch boat bat. in close quarters you want a hard object that extends your reach minimally, giving you an advantage, is light and swings easily and will not ding the walls of your narrow hallway that the home intruder is walking through.

Dual wielding is shit in real life. Just use a shield instead. It does everything an off hand weapon does but 300 times better plus it can do more.

>thread starts with a duel
>well nah, they're only good in a duel
Okay.

>sub compact with a light
why?

>guy stands there and takes a metal sword to the head
>some people point it out in simple, 1-line posts

>(you): "WOW STOP WRITING PARAGRAPHS AND PARAGRAPHS OF AUTISTIC SWORD-MASTERY KNOWLEDGE! WOW YOU GUYS ARE RETARDED! HAHA AND FAT!"

it's common sense not to absorb a giant metal object with your head, user. Nobody is being pretentious in pointing that out. ꉂ (´͈ ॢꇴ`͈ ॢ๑))

Because its Tacti-Cool!

It's called a "shit nigger what the fuck are you doing?" style.

did you miss the image title

>dude with two daggers wins against unsuspecting civilian trying to do his laundry
gg

>Why would you ever hold a blade underhand?

When you are using a tomahawk and knife in combination.

One could make a comment on how a certain type of people like to do all their criminal activities at a certain point in the day(night) and that the only time you'd be using it to defend yourself is at that point in time when the light is low.

Soul Calibur 3, Raphael. He wields a rapier, but his style is actually more suited towards using a sabre.

Don't see an oil pot, spikes and a bunch of crates there though

>Dual wielding is shit in real life.

Then why was the rapier and dagger/buckler/cloak combination popular for a hundred years?

Or spiders. Fuck spiders. I have no idea how did I beat that game given how much spiders in vidya freak me out.

I thought he used a wooden sword?

female warriors obviously

>sword made of plastic
>no weight, no inertia
>touching lightly with the tip of the blade about anywhere wins
Nice try though

You shouldn't be comparing a fighting style used by a soldier to fighting styles that are about a civilian fighting or dueling with gear that they can casually carry around.

This.

>A long weapon is more effective when the opponent is eliminated by mere contact alone
WHO KNEW. It's almost as if swinging a gigantic 2hander in a real combat scenario with enough strength to actually wound someone takes effort and time, time your opponent can use to close in and attack you.

Because it was ungentlemanly to shield bash a rapier wielding faggot in the face after breaking his toothpick with the shield.

Nigga I use my bare hands you wish you were as hardcore as I am.

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>Because it was ungentlemanly to shield bash a rapier wielding faggot in the face after breaking his toothpick with the shield.

Nobody carried around shields. There is a difference between battlefield weapons and civilian carry weapons, also between primary weapons and sidearms. It all has to be taken into context.

Came to say this.
>Long, heavy metal sword
>Implying you can just attack by holding it forward and bumping the enemy with it

>rapier
>tootpick

You're thinking about foils. Rapiers were heavier than longswords.

google your town for SCA, HEMA, or other groups

Yeah and most civilian deaths were made with knives. Doesn't make it a good weapon.

In the case that you are not allowed a shield due to practicality then obviously trash suboptimal weapon combinations come to the fore.

>knife
>not a good weapon

It's an excellent weapon and an excellent tool to boot,

>Yeah and most civilian deaths were made with knives. Doesn't make it a good weapon.

Context.

You won't have a halberd or a zweihander at dinner. You wouldn't want to use one inside a ship or in the corridors of a fortified place. You wouldn't want to be carrying one while walking around town.

we LITERALLY had this discussion 2-3 days ago

thick nylon swords have approximately the same weight distribution and flexibility as sharp steel swords which is why they are used for practice

Nice pike formations you got there. Would be a shame if I were to break it.

served its function and was used with success. Sounds like it was good

And autistic, I forgot to add it seems

it was just expensive, required a lot of practice, and only really beneficial in rare conditions.

a battlefield is more pole arms and archery, swords would come out after you dropped your pole arm or if you were on a horse or used sword and shield (shield was better against archers on a battlefield obviously than a second sword). if you are already carrying a pole arm and had the sword as back up the point was it being a back up weapon so you wouldnt carry two and if you were on a horse obviously you cant hold two swords and ride.

swords were more for dueling thus a fair one sword vs one sword situation is what one would go for. in a day to day situation you probably arent carrying two swords, its cumbersome enough to carry the one and if it was a proper planned duel it would be a "fair" single sword vs sword fight.

the very rare circumstance where you arent on the battlefield and you are just walking around not expecting it and someone attacks you and you happen to be carrying two swords is just so rare it was rarely practiced and again youd have to have practice with it for this rare situation to be favorable to you. youd have to be an expert duelist, have money for two swords, carry around two swords, and be attacked randomly for duel wielding to even happen. it would be some what beneficial to have two swords over your opponents one sword if you have skill BUT then itd be similarly useful to have a shield OR far more likely in this situation a dagger.

so what style of duel wielding IS historical? sword and dagger. but that doesnt mean just because people didnt use two swords its some impossible and stupid thing to do it just wasnt historically very useful. but certainly if you are good with two swords you can beat someone with one and youll have the advantage and if you dont think thats true you are literally throwing logic out the window in favor of following whats "historical" without logically thinking about WHY its historical.

>In the case that you are not allowed a shield due to practicality then obviously trash suboptimal weapon combinations come to the fore.

How is it sub-optimal? The other weapons are too big and bulky to have with you. Maybe a cannon could do more damage but it's not practical in most situations.

>You won't have a halberd or a zweihander at dinner.
You sound just like my mom. She never lets me come to din-dins armed.

context user is my nigga

Unironically Nidhogg.

What's with the swords faggotry? Just ram him down with pikes and you're good.

>You won't have a halberd or a zweihander at dinner.

I actually have a glaive about 5 feet away from my dinner table. I never eat at the table though.

You don't get to bring friends.

What is the benefit of having a blade like that?

A pike is fucking heavy man. That's why they used them in formations.

I want actual legit information on how "greatswords" were historically used in battle, whether in wars, skirmishes, or duels. Greatswords give me such a boner, I would have loved to have seen some master technique and all the roided up OG's literally de-limbing multiple peasants at a time with them.

Still, that doesn't mean you can just hold a longsword forwards and bump someone in the side and have that be a win. The first one was fine because that was an actual stab.

Wavy edged blades are generally designed to scrape flesh off more smoothly. Same with south east asian blades like the kris. This is why flamberges in Dark Souls have a bonus to inflict bleed.

>It never happened
>BUT IT COULD HAVE IF ALL THE PLANETS ALIGNED AND I EVER ACTUALLY READ A BOOK

Date Masamune did

Looks fancy as shit, and as you can see by the way Landsknechts dress looking like a pimp on the battlefield was important to them.

Ah so a serrated effect, makes sense.