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DESTROYED

I played a lot of ARPGs and this one is the one I like most
anyone knows a better or at least equal ARPG out there?

savage

there is none, the closest thing is path of exile but even then its not that close. just continue playing d2 each ladder reset its still the only one worth playing

not shitty, more just repetitive as fuck.
but that opinion isnt that extreme tho.

at least the enemie are not the same and the graphics don't make my eyes bleed

EL DIABLO...

path of exile looked promising but I dropped it after reading that you must read a lot to get an optimal build if you don't want to be fucking useless, plus them nerfing it next patch

Posting best runeword

usually i make two of these babies on a warcry barb and just autistically scream my way through the game

posting the real best runeword

I loved it when I was 13.
>playing D3 on console, roll a hardcore character with my brother
>game is so absurdly easy and constantly throws game-breaking items our way, we are melting down every enemy no matter how strong they are
>people play this shit for hundreds of hours
amazing how they went from cash shop faggotry to completely ruining it by turning it into a game for item-junkies. yes, nice items you have there autist, but the game is so fucking flabby and meaningless that no item discovery could ever redeem it.

> argue that d4 should have combat from a different genre since clicking was only ever tolerable at most
> guy I'm arguing with literally says that diablo should have "shit combat" because that's how ARPGs are
what the fuck is wrong with diablo fans

Best set item coming thru

Are you retarded? D3 has an infinite difficulty, by definition that can't be "easy".

weak b8

the worst parts of diablo 3 are the items, and the departure from the multiplayer system of diablo 2

>he's unaware of how GRifts work
Wow look at me I'm sooo ignorant everyone! Ha ha that sure showed those 4channers.

why would i be embarrassed? i'm not the one who plays d3.

Just because Greater Rifts are a shit mechanic for endgame, doesn't mean there's something wrong with the gameplay or combat.
Greater Rifts are inherently flawed because they're the exact same shit from level 1 to 1000, only with bigger numbers. And that shit is boring and mindnumbing as fuck. Path of Exile got it right with the mapping system and endgame bosses. Diablo 3 fucked up the endgame content.

If only we could have D3 combat in Path of Exile, we'd have the best ARPG ever, easily. But PoE combat gameplay will never be as good on a shitty self-made 10 year old game engine.

I saw was a "normal" difficulty option with higher difficulties locked, I played for 3 hours without any challenge whatsoever, and thought to myself correctly "this was very easy". How many hours until this "infinite difficulty" descends?

Both true

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move aside plebs

path of exile's combat is incredibly satisfying though

i could play a shatter build with herald of ice for hours just to hear them go off

>clicking when you can just hold the mouse button

How else could you do the combat? The Diablo genre is pretty much stuck with "clicking" because it is the most flexible and fitting system.

True path of exile is much superior.

I didn't say it wasn't satisfying, certain builds are really nice to play, even if the combat isn't as good as Diablo's. Shatter is an example of that, but the feeling of satisfaction doesn't come from it playing great, more from the sound it makes with the combination of critting, shattering the mobs all at once as they die, and the visual effect of it, all of which are really nice.

Let's be real though. Diablo 3 just simply has the better combat gameplay. It's the one thing that PoE simply can't hold a candle against D3. Everything else though, PoE is the better game.

And I do? Nice assumption sweetie, but that's not how things work.
Never claimed that it's a good endgame system, just that it works opposite of how Mr.user thinks it does. PoE endgame is shit as well by the way, grinding sextant shaped vault for 10 years isn't fun. Whole bunch of stupid map mods that just make you re-roll (like reflect). So really you're only running Shaper, Uber A, & Lab lol.
After the game.

PoE never sealed the deal for me because it's mechanically great but very soulless. I just don't care about Wraeclast, or any characters, it doesn't feel like a believable world, it feels like it's all just an excuse for a game which is, mechanically, quite good.

Grim Dawn on the other hand... I wish it had random map gen tho :/

Path of Exile is fucking trash. Grim Dawn is the only decent game in the whole genre.

Yeah, dota is afwul as sin

yeah the story for PoE is boring as fuck
dude thaumaturgy lmao

>Play on normal difficulty when there are 20 difficulties higher
>AHYUK HYUK THIS IS SO EASY
you deserve to play D3 for the rest of your life

>PoE endgame is shit as well by the way, grinding sextant shaped vault for 10 years isn't fun.
You can choose to not do that, you know. In fact, only a small percentage of players actually do that. Sure, it's effective as fuck to farm if you do, but you're not forced to do it.
>So really you're only running Shaper, Uber A, & Lab lol.
Hey, that's still more endgame than Diablo 3 ever had. Plus, you also have Elder and Elder Guardians now, which means you have to play around your Atlas to access them often. It's not perfect, but it's pretty decent and much better than what is available in any other game of the genre.

clearly you know how it works. you've played the game, shiteater.

>Hey, that's still more endgame than Diablo 3 ever had.
At least learn more about the take you talk shit about

>endgame in d3

farming bounties, farming rifts

wow!

Diablo 3 never had an endgame really, they just slapped an infinitely growing rand gen dungeon system and called it quits.

That only makes PoE good relative to D3, but it's still a shit boring endgame.

>D3 never had engame except for this endgame
More than D2 ever had

Hello? Diablo 3 has no fucking endgame. It's shitty greater rifts and nothing else. You can add the Kanai's Cube quest and a few other shit you do once, and that's it. Oh, and the """"ubers"""" that you can steamroll through at Torment X with the set you're given for free upon hitting level 70. Great fucking endgame, retard.

>Game made 13 years after other game has more content
>context is irrelevant, direct comparison of the two is valid because I say so lol
STOP THE PRESSES

*taka* *taka*
heh, nuffin pervefred kidd

>Torment X
You can blow through T4, maybe T6 with the given set. But the sets usually aren't even the best so stop acting like it's a big deal.

And don't act like T10 is a big deal lol you played the game on baby mode

kek thanks for the chuckle

D2's endgame was b.net duels. D3 BTFO

>responding to wrong user
you're the retard.

>Casts chain lightning
>Lowers lightning resist
>Magic Find
Is this the best farming weapon?

Hey thanks for admitting D3 is better than 2. And PoE is D2 1.5, a clunky buggy laggy mess.

>Duels
Literally worse than wow pvp. Nostalgia goggles must be snug

you have to be literally fucking braindead to think d3 is better than poe at this point dude

>Hey thanks for admitting D3 is better than 2.
Diablo 2 was an amazing game for it's time. Diablo 3 is a shit game for it's time. That's the big difference, retard. Context matters.

>Biggest difficulty out of 16 isn't a big deal lol, you haven't even grinded 90 levels of these boring repetitive dungeons, heh
Yes, I fucking did. And it's mindnumbing as fuck. The fact that you think this is somehow amazing repetitive endgame, is laughable. All for what, chasing the exact same items you already have, with a different shiny border and more main stats? Hilarious.

Nah I've just played the game past torment X and don't expect to relive my experience through the second game like this dickhead who thinks repetetive Baal runs wasn't repetitive and was "great for it's time".

They're either both shit games or D3 is objectively better.

>PoE is D2 1.5, a clunky buggy laggy mess.
>t. too casual to get to maps

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Awesome game btw

I don't want to burst your bubble, but Torment X isn't shit anymore. Even when it was released it wasn't shit. You can do Torment X the instant you pick up and 6piece set. T13 is for having every major set and item towards a relevant build, and GRs set above it are for artifact versions of those same items.

TX doesn't even exist as a farming torment at this point, the power creep has skyrocketed to the point where torment's 2-9 are completely worthless for farming. You do Torment 1 until you get your 6piece, then go straight to 10 until you get your sub-set, then straight to 13.

>people on this board actually defend d3 and think its better than 2

You laugh, but I find it both scary and depressing. These people will speak their retardspeak and people will take them seriously.

cannot believe my eyes

>D2 popularized the Genre
>D3 killed the Genre

This is circumstantial evidence, and still all I need to know to prove my point.

Play Din's Curse

More like
>D1 invented the genre
>D2 warped the genre into clones of itself
>D3 fucked everything up

>people care about the story in a genre that is entirely designed around you beating thousands and thousands of enemies with 3-4 primary attacks
>the story is told through text boxes, occasional cutscenes, and lore books

ARPGs like Diablo are barely a step up from clicker games. Autists like them because """""theorycrafting"""""" and the big numbers you can get.

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

Honestly I just wanted to know Sup Forums's opinion on torchlight, I don't really like it myself to

The higher difficulties are locked until you beat the game. My gf and I tried to play it co-op, the game was so absurdly easy that it was unplayable. We didn't even finish it, just zero fun mindlessly running around in 0 danger of getting hurt.

>Figting against a very shitty AI is the same that fichting agains other humans
Skinner boxes have destroyed your brain.

something vaguely like jedi outcast
melee weapons function like the light sabers, you can get skills (smite, whirlwind, etc) that are activated like the different combo moves
bows/xbows work like guns, bow skills are mapped to alt-fire or something
spells work like guns/force powers
buttons are probably rearranged
enemies come at you with melee, ranged and magical moves and you need to avoid, block, parry, etc
I'm pretty sure you can do almost anything with that sort of control scheme, it has advanced melee combat with special moves and parries and all that, it has totally free movement, it has perfect free aim, you can use powers pretty easily (especially if controls are only built for PC), you could probably up the enemy count to large amounts and have it function pretty well, etc

and you can of course change the floatiness of movement and feel of combat and aimed weapons, I'm just talking the control scheme
pretty much the only limitation is that it'll be slightly harder to ground-target, but then again maybe it's a good thing that it requires a bit finesse to make an AoE spell detonate at the perfect target, and it makes up for it so much

Use Synergy mod to make it better.
Play Grimdawn, check out Wolcen.
Genre is ded.

you have 2 seconds to defend farming Sup Forums

This game has by far the most fun skills, whereas the other games are just point and click number sims. Didn't PoE steal the mapping system from this series as well?

what if i like farming Sup Forums, you hit people here and they drop doritos and hot pockets

>406131231
better equip more %(you)find buddy, you're not getting mine that easily

Sup Forums has a decent drop rate for (you)'s.

MF doesn't aply to runes, so it's shit.

i kind of like the story but it needs more to it, almost noone in the world actually talks about the driving force of the story

in d2 you can clearly tell what the story is and what youre doing, but in poe its some thinly defined revenge mission that even after listening to nearly everything i feel like i barely have a concept of the story