Can someone fill me in as to why fucking Secret of Mana is on Steam...

Can someone fill me in as to why fucking Secret of Mana is on Steam? Is Square digging up the corpses of old franchises and putting a shitty coat of paint on them before calling it a day? I completely overlooked this one. And for fucking $40?

store.steampowered.com/app/637670/Secret_of_Mana/

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Dude this game sucks ass.
The part with the archers in so annoying my party gets killed after 2 arrows.
And that tiger boss is super unfair. I have no idea how to dodge those magic attacks.
Really frustrating.

The game is still better than almost every modern game

>I have no idea how to dodge those magic attacks
Unless the remake added some shit, there is no dodging spells, you'll have to deal with being hit by them.

it should be 20 but i dont care because this game makes me nostalgia hardcore.

What fucking rock have you been under? We actually had a NORMAL thread about this game yesterday when some faggot got it early. A little high, but smart anons got it on sale on GMG last year for a big discount.

I agree the Chobin Hoods are bullshit tier arrow spam, but you clearly never played the original if you think you can dodge magic at all. You take it like the bitch you are and hope your Candy supply holds up. Being aggressive is the secret to the tiger fight, don't give that nigga time to jump away or cast shit. Equip the Bow to Popoi and the Spear to Primm, both can hit him on the pillar and keep him from cheesing you. Keep Popoi equipped with a range weapon for the entire game for that reason. Level your magic up early and abuse cheap inns to refill mp.

Welcome to what used to be NORMAL difficulty in the 90s, nigga. Minus the Chobin Hoods. They were still annoying, but not THIS fast annoying. Wait till you have to fight the Wolves and Clouds in Iceland.

wow
cool game design.
It's really nice since after you get hit for 45 points from the magic attack you also get stuned for like 10 seconds and in that time that thing attacks you again for 55 points and since youre stunned you can not evade the second attack.
Good thing I pirated this shit.
Holy fuck...

it was always one of the most overhyped JRPGs

I remember there's a way to dodge most non-magical attacks, it involved the action gadge being full and pressing in a direction, but I can't remember fully.
Also don't forget every weapon and magic can level after being used enough.

Shit like this makes me wish I had the photoshop skills to turn the Zelda "Welcome to Dark Souls, bitch!" into a Secret of Mana parody.

This.
Legend of Mana is way better.

Just heal yourself man, this isn't an ARPG where you're able to do pro dodges and stuff, its practically turn based.

You probably didn't grind a couple extra trips around the map before going in, and probably didn't buy the top armor for everyone from that side town or gaia's navel first, that damage sounds way too high. But I expect no less if that's how you react to a challenge.

MINIMUM:
>Processor: INTEL Core i3 2.4GHz
>Memory: 4 GB RAM
>Graphics: GeForce GT730 / RADEON R7 240
>DirectX: Version 11
>Storage: 11 GB available space

Performance seems to vary. My i5/970 runs it fine, meanwhile a friend's i7/1080 has issues. Turning off GSync and other useless Nvidia programs seems to help

with these min specs I should be able to play it on my laptop. Might as well pirate and see

Wait the remake is already out? I thought this shit came out in 2 years and didn't even know it was coming to PC.

And it's STILL better than most modern garbage

It was up for preorder last year and released today.

SE recently announced bringing back forgotten IPs.

Last year for the Mana Series 25th Anniversary they announced this and released in Japan a Seiken Densetsu Collection on Switch.

They also localized and ported Romancing Saga 2 mobile version to consoles and PC.

I fully expect Chrono Trigger among other Square RPG announcements in the future.

>Chrono Trigger remade like SoM
Oh god yes please.

>they'll probably do a crossover CT event in the mobile games and FFBE, FFRK, and Mobius will all get Chrono as a character/card
Also yes please.

the user playing an early copy last night had also mentioned things were hitting a lot harder than other iterations of the game.

>chrono trigger
>present day square enix
no. in the name of all that is holy NO

zsnes and roms for free bitches
played this shit in computer class in hs back in the day cuz you could fit everything on a 1.44 mb floppy

>zsnes
shit taste

>party
Hmm i get the feeling the the "secret of" game I played before wasn't his.
I remember being solo, there were a small variety of weapons but despite it combat never got that fun which compounded with there being minimal story.

Is Popoie a guy or a girl?

Sprite is a boy.

I haven't really noticed that personally, but it's been awhile since i played the original, last one I touched was the updated Mobile port. I've not died yet and I'm in the fire palace, which usually happens by then, especially on the fuckin' tiger. The Chobin Hoods are firing like 20x faster than they did in the original so you have to be quick and take them out of they'll fuck you raw.

Actual dmg wise I don't think it's any higher, but the hp scaling might be different too. MP scaling definitely is since it breaks 100 now I think.

Playing the original is one thing, a FAITHFUL remake is another. Rare that companies actually do something right like, especially Squeenix. I'm pleased with it. Also, christ who still uses ZSnes? SNES9x is better in every way for most average players now

Boy - not sure why they're using neutral pronouns though, they confirmed it as boy in the updated versions before this, may not show up until later scenes.

pfft, it's an emulator, who cares which one you use, they all do the same thing

which one do you recommend your holiness?

it's a remake. why don't you take two fucking seconds and look at the steam page

don't engage the autistic emulator nerd

>I'll just write Dyluck's name in this death note...and eat a potato chip!

What's with that random-ass dragon just pasted in there?

Eh, if it turns out to be made by RPG Factory (I Am Setsuna and Lost Sphear), I wouldn't mind.

They've got the experience to make the gameplay and art design of Chrono Trigger for sure.

Just make sure they change composers as orchestral wouldn't really fit Chrono Trigger's soundtrack.

Original box art, NES/SNES box art didn't make shit for sense, see: Mega Man's extremely realistic human man art with a gun

Give me a rundown on the fuckups, maybe I can overlook them enough.

nah, that dragon is not in the original art.

30 year old game
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Your pic is cropped.

Oh yeah and for source (at least regarding Switch)

siliconera.com/2017/11/08/square-enix-wont-rule-ips-including-new-active-inactive-nintendo-switch/

>(When consider games for Switch), we won’t rule out any IPs. Those include new ones, currently active ones, currently not-active ones.

Also of note in case of a potential port of SoM to Switch:

>Switch’s core architecture similar to PS4/Xbox One. Some adjustment necessary, but multi-platform games not impossible

In regards to localization of Seiken Densetsu Collection:

nintendoeverything.com/square-enix-considering-the-secret-of-mana-remake-for-switch-aware-of-western-interest-in-seiken-densetsu-collection/

>But we’ve obviously heard a lot of demands and requests for that game to be released in the west, and that’s something we will do our best to hopefully achieve, but nothing at this moment in time.

In other words, never say never.

his tails in front of the tree

t. liar

Randi's VA is derpy but tolerable, Primm's VA is terrible, (Popoi's is great though)
AI is still a bit derpy. They recreated the combat very accurately, from the special attack animations, the "saved" hits on downed enemies applying when they un-stun, animations, etc. A few models got changed, but most of it looks like some wizard used fucking magic to turn it all 3d. Honestly I can't find any real fuckups besides maybe optimization.
Yes, EVERYTHING is voice acted. I like it, many don't. Even random-ass NPCs and the Goblins that capture Randi.

There's multiple versions of it out there - I STILL have the promotional Poster hanging up right now from Nintendo Power before it was even released, and that Dragon is there plain as day. I'll be glad to get a pic of it if you like.

Seriously though, fuck the people who made voice acting in RPGs the standard. Fuck them with a rusted chainsaw.

im not disputing that the dragon is on the poster, just that the dragon was slapped on top of the original art when they made the poster for some reason, which is why it looks so fucking out of place.

I agree it doesn't need to be everywhere, but this isn't that bad to me. There is a volume slider for Voices so you can turn it off at least

It also includes an option to use the original OST, or the Remake's versions, which vary from orchestral remakes to literal techno/dance-style remixes like in the Dwarf town. Can swap on the fly at any time via options.

I'd actually like to see a pic of it.
Not because of the dragon, I just want to see the poster.

It's shit just like every modern ff to come out.
Bad VA looks like shit plays like shit in other words SE butchered another classic...nice mobile game faggots.

Volume slider isn't useful in so many games where the pace of text/scene is tied to delivery anyway. Even silenced that stupid addition remains a bother.

Should I get it? Is the soundtrack still good? I have the original, but is the remake worth it?

Yea go ahead rape chrono trigger SE i want to you really KILL your company. I pray for death threats.

look at how bad the editing around the dragon is. the original art doesn't have blur.

Here ya go user

Did they figure people would get bored half way up the poster and threw a dragon in there to keep your attention?

Probably. American marketers are fucking retarded.

I kinda want to see someone shop about 8 more dragons on it now though.

Damn, user. I'm jelly.

>Orchestral wouldn't fit chrono triggers ost

Are you high?

youtube.com/watch?v=ESGeJmP-k3s

dragons aside, pretty nice to still have this around user. good work.

I liked it when it was called Final Fantasy Adventure

Hopefully Chrono Trigger remake makes it to Switch. I know how addicted Square is to Sony's dick.

I hated the tiger as a kid, I'd always grind the werewolves for a few levels to increase my chances of survival.
Sometimes he just decides to fuck you anyway.

One of the few things I've kept over the years, shit is always a nice reminder of simpler fun times when games were solid, and not for marketing.

This game is horrible.

Really bad, there's something off about it, specially the music.

From what little I could stomach of it, I would go with no. Your mileage may vary.
I just don't understand who this is addressed to. It's perfectly inferior to the original for people that are nostalgia-driven. It's perfectly subpar when compared to competing products on the market for those that aren't.
Worst of both worlds, satisfies no one.

God damn it looks like shit. I am not paying $40 for this garbage.

>specially the music
You can turn it back to the Original OST at any time

30+ Old insomniac here.
As someone who loved the original and play it regularly on the snes the last 23 years.

The game is alright and doesn't deserve those retard hate.
The assets if they aren't AAA standard aren't ugly they feel nice and are the colorfull
People should not complain as it tIt's literally a 3D reskin of the original it's the same.
Editor usually don't do this and change many this on those remake.

Less fan of the new soundtrack (not all some track until now can be cool water temple for exemple or the sad music when you leave the village)
the 3D animatics aren't bad seeing character expressions give the narration a plus.

Also I am calling if they do a switch port the reviews would be 8/10 to 9/10 with usual +2/+3 nintendo "it feel better on the switch" bullshit.

If that's supposed to be an example of orchestral fitting, let's agree to disagree.

thinking of a different game bro beans.

It looks like something they were planning to put on the 3DS, but decided to pass on the platform halfway through. Not complaining, I haven't played the original or remake, just speculating on why it's so technically subpar.

Please tell me how you would, and the keyword here is 'faithfully', recreate a sprite-based game in 3d without pissing on the art style?

Is it 3ds-esque? Kinda. The models aren't blocky pieces of shit though, they're smooth.

I feel like I'm suffering frame drops trying to read your English. You gave my fucking brain lag.

Amazing, an actual reasonable person among the nostalgiafag shitstorm.

...

I think the scores the game has been given are warranted. No hating there. Just the game getting what it deserves instead of release hype marketing praise bolstering scores, as you yourself noted.

The big question to me remains Who was the target audience here?

Would make sense, though I'm not sure if fits what we know of the schedule - granted it's not as if publicly available data on that was generally accurate.

It's fucking disheartening, because you know no one working on that woke up thinking "Hey, let's make a shitty cash grab!". So either the game had some big management fuck up, or the old talent pool available to SE has finally been bled dry. Which is not an impossible proposition when you look at recent releases - just look at Lost Sphear.

Needs more dragons. They also need to be breathing fire and shit.

This now goes on the list on shit man i mean...i save so much money.

You do not work hard enough to get my money Square enix

SquareSoft for life.

appreciated. Gave me a dumb chuckle in the same vein as the "20lbs of pussy and ass" and "featuring dante from the devil may cry series" edits.

Better?
Np m8

ye ai had that game is that from a magazine or the box. i remember this from somewhere and thoguht this exactly since you where supposed to hang it on the wall. that dragon is fake

The price was a too-high decision, but from having actually played it, everything down to the systems was carefully recreated in a 3d engine, even little quirks. Shit had some actual care used on it, if they wanted to do a "lazy cash grab", they would have given it the FF6 treatment - fuck the UI and controls, rip lazy RPGMaker sprites and just lazily port it over, or change it too much and ruin the spirit of the original. I think they did it right, for the most part.

With that said, I've encountered a few AI and Magic-related bugs already. It's not perfect, but a well-done update that doesn't fuck with the original

Add "20lbs of dragons and ass" to it

Daily reminder all SE games are grade a shit

I think it looks pretty good. If it looked like I was bashing the game, I'm not. Just saying that on a technical level, just judging from what I've seen in pics and the trailer, it looks PS2-era. Here's a pic of Dragon Quest on the PS2 - this is what I'm thinking of. To me, 3DS is what happens when you take something with the power of the gamecube, but shrink the screen so the rendering capabilities increase at the cost of resolution. That's what I was getting at. Sorry if it was confusing.

This must be optimized like complete shitas usual for SE

So did they make Popoi gender neutral in this like in the Nip version?

>mfw just got my copy in the mail

Give it to me straight, lads

it's shit, right?

>Chrono Trigger remade like SoM
>Oh god yes please.
>
At best they will release the DS version

Isn't there SOME new stuff?
At least the trophy list indicates some sort of new events?

>>Chrono Trigger remade like SoM
Oh no!

Eh, the new music is meh, but can be switched back to original. Otherwise it's essentially the same old game, just with a better translation so you can actually get the plot the Japanese had way back in the 90s now.

I prefer the shitty translations from my childhood tbqh

yeah sorry about that. It's 3 am and I'm sleepless for the last 72 hours. can't do proof reading.
That because I am not nostalgic.
Frankly as someone who work on design and art related shit. I am lost too.
What's the cohesive idea when they green lighted this reskin.
Nostalgia fag are obsessional and would not buy it that for sure (they don't buy shit anyway minus nintendo faithfull who would buy anything with the brand on it).
Younger people will find it archaic and outdated gameplay.

Oldfag not in an eternal anal stage nostalgia like me are a minority and don't constitue a market core.
The more logical IMO they were targeting japan exclusively The regular peopke who don't play that much video games but remember seiken densetsu 2.

Me too kinda. Got way too used to Popoi being a girl.

>Nostalgia fag are obsessional and would not buy it that for sure
Nostalgiafag here. Bought it last year, no hesitation. Did get a discount at GMG, but otherwise, why the fuck wouldn't I? It's super fun so far and feels exactly like the original did, and should

Is there a torrent for it yet?

Yup, codex one got mentioned/posted in a previous thread.

I wasn't aware that the English version changed the plot. Just how bad was it?

Like a lot of text couldn't be translated due to the character limit bad. So we got a barebones version on top of shitty translation.