Which one is better?

Which one is better?

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They both suck (GT Sport might be better though).
Previous generation Driving games were better

GTS,It doesn't have lootbox

doesn't have content either

Interesting, why do you both think GT is better?

Also interesting (I know Sup Forums is gonna say "MUH REVIEWS, GOD YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING PLEB"), but yeah, Forza seems to have gotten slightly better reviews.

>Previous generation Driving games were better
You mean like Xbox 360 generation? I have Forza 4 and I love it. But I'm sure the new ones are even better. I've been watching videos of GT Sport and it looks really good, but I'm usually an Xbox guy, so I'm leaning towards getting an Xbone + Forza, but I dunno. GT has always been the thing I want the most from the PlayStation to be honest.

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>But I'm sure the new ones are even better

for single player, Forza 7 hands down. It actually had the potential to be the best racing game ever, but it slipped on a few things unfortunately.
There are lootboxes. Cant be bought with real money but its still a shit system. You can absolutely play the game and progress without touching them but you're missing out on a lot of potential extra money by doing so.

The main problem is the specialty dealer. The game has 150 or so cars that are locked behind the specialty dealer which refreshes every week or so with 4 rng cars. It's clearly a thing just to make people keep coming back, it serves no real purpose. Most of those cars were already in FM6.

Besides that though its a pretty good game. Even beside the specialty dealer crap there's a ridiculous amount of cars, a very nice variety of tracks with some of them having dynamic conditions. The career mode is lenghty and varied. Free play is surprisingly good, you can set your own tournaments up. Online is trash fire because its too easy to get away with ramming.


GT Sport single player sucks despite all the updates. Sure there are more events now but you still cant customize your car, and the championships are about as barebones as it gets. There's also a serious lack of cars (especially "everyday" cars) and tracks. It's extremely pretty (looks better than FM7 which is already great looking) and the driving is fun too, but I find it mind numbingly boring. The online is good though, if you are into that.

1. That's fucking sweet, I didn't know you could get the Vulcan in Horizon 3
2. I prefer the Motorsport games to the Horizon games - Horizon is too arcadey for me. I want the most authentic sim you can get on a console, basically.

Neither. Both are half baked.
Forza Horizon 2-3 are the only good driving games this gen

The one where Asuka Kazama grew up to become a race car driver with a story mode and everything

This is how you fix racing games gentlemen

GT didn't have a single player mode when it launched. Now it does. Reviews are outdated.

With pretty Japanese girls with big tits driving YOUR cars

Just bought this on PC since I haven't played in racing game in ages. Damn is it fun. Even bought the DLC and while sort of over priced, it feels like they at least put some effort into it. Are the other Horizon games just as good?

From all the current gen racing games witch are best for casual singleplayer on console without wheel?

In total there are:
GT Sport
Forza
Forza Horizon
Project Cars
Assetto Corsa
Dirt
The Crew
F1 games
Driveclub
Dirt
Various NFS games I guess

Did I forget something?

>Are the other Horizon games just as good?
I've heard some say Horizon 2 is better. Never played it yet though. Horizon 2 is one of the few games that is actually Xbox one exclusive (not on PC, and the 360 version of it is a shitty different game). Horizon 1 feels kind of outdated if you played 3.

GT Sport had effectively just as much single-player content at launch as it does now. The career mode they added is completely pointless and redundant. It wouldn't change reviews, especially with as awful as the AI is in those career mode races.

That's not to say the game is awful; there's a lot to like, even without multiplayer. I actually think the circuit experience is better than career-based stuff they've done because it focuses on actual practical driving, rather than "pass a dozen cars in one lap" that is more indicative of an arcade racer mindset.

The livery editor and photo modes are also great if you like that kind of stuff.

>Horizon 2 is one of the few games that is actually Xbox one exclusive
Well that sucks. Dont have an xbox one or know anybody who owns one. Regardless, 3 is fun as hell and made me have interest in racing games again. Might pick up a more serious sim racer and a wheel.

>I want the most authentic sim you can get on a console, basically.

Assetto Corsa or Project CARS 2 then.

Take a look at the car and track list for both and see what appeals to you more. Both have really good handling models and feel much more rewarding than GT Sport or Forza, assuming you have a wheel and pedal setup.

I miss the time when gran turismo was good

Interesting. I would like to drive online. And the videos of GT Sport online look pretty cool. I've watched loads of videos of drivers being dicks, but then it seems to have a thing that if a car goes too sideways / goes off the track then other cars can just drive through it, to prevent big crashes / griefing.

Ah right I didn't know Project Cars was a simulator, I thought it was more of an arcade game. Perhaps I should check it out. I was just reading about Assetto Corsa but apparently while it's a very accurate simulation, it's very barebones in terms of actual gameplay.

If you want online, GTSport is adequate. It will be frustrating at the start in Sport mode but once you get your safety rating up, you can get some pretty solid races.

>Ah right I didn't know Project Cars was a simulator
I wouldn't consider PCARS1 to be a sim but 2 is a completely different game.

>Reviews are outdated
No the aren't, you review what you get the chance to review when it comes out, if the game lacks a lot or content it deserves to be trashed to death, next time delay the game again if necessary.

Game is legitimately fun.

>casual
>controller
>single player

In that case, Forza Horizon games are the way to go. All 3 are playable on the bone, and honestly all 3 of them are great. The first one is a bit dated graphically as its a 360 game obviously.

To add to this, the main area where GT Sport is lacking content isn't cars (which they have been adding)- it's circuits. There aren't that many tracks in the game and many that are in are complete garbage. Pic related. The new expressway tracks are utterly useless.

honestly the car selection is kind of shitty too. I miss the every day cars that GT1-6 had. GT:S is mostly just race cars.

>bought the dlc

Literally kys

Forza Horizon 3. I actually prefer 2 as I think the environments were better but Horizon 4 should be amazing as it's most likely going to be in Japan.

Horizon 2 has one of the best atmospheres of any game I have ever played. Real summer holiday feel. It was all just so laid back, like a dream vacation simulator.

I think H3 is also amazing, but it doesn't really capture the festival atmosphere nearly as well as 1 or 2. It just feels like a super compressed Australia. Too compressed, in fact. IMO the map would be hugely improved if all the distances were just doubled. Right now its just way too jarring going from the outback to the city within 5 minutes.

I just bought GTSport and I love it. I don't have Plus but I like just racing against AI and perfecting lap times. The racing is better now in Gran Turismo than has ever been.

I hope they patch in more content though. It seems like PD realized they fucked up pandering to online players and are backtracking on that.

> The racing is better now in Gran Turismo than has ever been.
Why? The AI is just as braindead as before. And there is no upgrading or weather. And a serious lack of content as you said.
I played the shit out of every GT game, but Sport just gives me a headache with how boring it is.
Driveclub in its current form is honestly better

Both are boring as hell
If I had to play I'd pick GT just for VR

>Driveclub in its current form is honestly better
This is wrong. Driveclub lacks the same gameplay. It's just too "plastic" in comparison even though it has way more cars and tracks.

I saw that Project Cars 2 has way more circuits than the other two

forza 7 is miles better. it has way more content and isn't a primarily online based game. also graphics are better

Have both. You are better off sticking with F1 2018 or Project CARS 2. Both GT and Forza are OK but have problems.Plus when racing AI, you are picking if you want the GT Trulli train or the Forza Maldonado Mayhem
Turn 10 killed the economy again. Expert mods cost 30,000cr, you can stack a ton of them to get well over 200% bonus and If you aren't getting 250,000cr per race then you are doing it wrong.
I was more pissed that it turned out you can bump draft on that track and it works but the safety rating has a hissy fit and immediately slams you back to B. Same with moving someone up a lane on Northern Isle and Blue Moon. Plus every sim player found you can easily break Saftey rating by putting in clean sectors after you bump and run someone and the game forgets you wiped out someone. Then gives you an S-Rank. Never mind the salt when you trade paint going around a tight corner (Nurburgring GP first corner always) and the system just docks both people even though trading paint is fucking common in touring and even GT3.

Except they released like 20 free cars or so since and several singleplayer 'missions'

Single player still sucks shit and you need an online connection for the save game. None of the 20 cars are worth much either. Adding Monza was OK but the way Parabolica feels is well off to the point if I'm wondering if they are using older scans because there's a few tracks in there notorious for being bumpy as fuck like Brands Hatch that are completely smooth like they were repaved (Brands hasn't had a repave in years). Kaz way overpromised post launch support.

Dumb fuck iTards

Glad to see GT fanboys still don't like their game, they just hate everyone elses. So when's GT going to actually produce a champion instead of reality show stars with Sony funded rides?

Hopefully it's not just the car packs. The Hotwheels expansion is fun.

Gran Turismo 6 and Forza 6 are better than their sequels, honestly.

Hi Dan.

ive played it in vr and it's honestly shit unless you have that full racing chair and wheel setup

Have you ever thought about blaming Kaz for the current state of Gran Turismo instead of other games for once? Maybe GT would actually improve instead of constantly regressing.

Who?

forza is more arcade than gt

This

Most of the new titles have been infected with AAA bullshit that is the cancer killing Vidya.

>Calling GT a sim
Both are Simcades. GT virgins tend to be in denial about it ever since the iRacing Chads started winning real races and having real race drivers use it for practice.

Horizon 3 is shit
I was so hyped to finally have a Forza game on PC but i lost all interest when i found i could get the best car class in the game literally 30 minutes in. There's no point of playing it.

>calling gt a sim
i cant find this anywhere in my post

You implied it so I had to correct you. GT is not a sim. It's just as arcade as Forza but the droning fanbase always tries to convince people otherwise.

no i didnt even imply it you autist

Forza horizon has always been about winning races, not about a grind to go from some peasantmobile to a super car. It was the same story with Forza horizon 1 (never played 2) and you just turn up the AI difficulty to make it more challenging. The opponents vehicles scale with yours anyway so it's not like you've got the best vehicles really quick and the opponents are stuck with civics.

Yes you did. Even if Forza is "More Arcade" GT is still just as much arcade. If you want a sim you go buy PCARS2, Assetto, Raceroom or iRacing (If you are a chad and actually want to win things)
>Inb4 "James"

You did because you said Forza is "more arcade" than GT. But the guy responding to you is saying neither is more arcade than the other, they're both as arcade as each other.

I have a PS3 wheel, I read It doesnt work, I might buy a new Hori flight strick if they make 1 for Ace Combat VR though

GTSport, by far, not even close.
Doesn't really matter how much more content Forza7 has over it when its structure is worse and its progression is fucked up. I won't even get into the pass and lootboxes crap, or the fact that you'll pay full price for Forza8 in a year, then Forza9 afterward, while GTS will continue to be sold at $30 or less with discounts for the next half decade while it gets more and more content and support, and the online playerbase remains on 1 game.

Thus far GTS has kept its promise of free content and I don't see why they would change that in the future. They already introduced a single-player campaign of some sorts and I'm sure it'll evolve even further, and when it comes to online only iRacing competes with it.

>what is gt academy
i can also post picture of sebastien loeb and be a faggot like you. he claimed to play gt2 for training. seems to work out a lot better for him than it does for kimi

Forza 7 doesn’t have lootboxes that you can spend real money on.

dont forget the fucked up ai in single player mode. its like youre playing nfs shift

I like F7 but GTS is way more classy.
I played GTS demo and the game presentation and soundtrack is leagues ahead of any driving game out there.

In what way

In what way

Please give specifics otherwise it sounds like you're just talking out your ass. Forza 7 is a great looking game too. And soundtrack? SOUNDTRACK? You think that's important in a driving sim game? Are you fucking INSANE?

Gt6 has more content but worse in everything else

>And soundtrack? SOUNDTRACK? You think that's important in a driving sim game? Are you fucking INSANE?
i bet you are one of the retards making fun of gt for not having every car sound like some v8 mercedes

Ebin response.

The DLC is actually good.

>You think that's important in a driving sim game?
Not him but if you're playing a game for so many hours then yes a game soundtrack is important. GT Sport is stylish and polished as fuck. You can tell Yamauchi's autism shines through.

No I'm literally just wondering which one is the better game. Gameplay is by far the most important thing. Engine sounds is a small detail. Music soundtrack is almost irrelevant, I would argue.

if you focus on single player dont go with forza 7. the ai is complete garbage.

>In what way (is GTS more classy)
Not him, but in a lot of ways, pretty much inn all the ways. I don't even know where to start, it's just a combinations of everything that mixes up and gives you that feeling. Pictures, music, UI, interface sounds, animations, the lighting system, presentation, more emphasis on photorealism compared to over-saturation/hyper-realism of Forza (which isn't a bad thing btw, just a different way to go about it), and a lot of other shit. From the smallest details to the largest.

If you look at Forza7 with the autistic driver acting cool taking up 1/3rd of the screen in menus with a lootbox shop alert button right next to his dick, and then at GTS with a car driving through a photo scape in slow motion and calming music with a dim black UI surrounding it and you can't tell which is more "classy" then I don't know how to help you.

>forza doesnt even have side mirrors

GT Sport. 7 is a mess compared to 6 and they still haven't fixed some of the wonky car sounds and handling, let alone half the cars not having moving paddles or gear sticks. Also should be noted Forza 7's DLC is paid, GT Sport's isn't. GT Sport might have less content now, but it's more satisfying to drive and will eventually, thanks to free DLC, fill that hole.

>GT Academy
>Reality show stars and Nissan shitcanning Kaz from Nismo because the only result they got was a meme 2nd place podium at LeMans.
>iRacing
>Two NASCAR champions including one who was spotted by Dale Jr playing iRacing and is making his debut at Daytona as the youngest Rookie at Cup level
Sure, whatever. When's GT gonna make a champion?

>lemans is a meme
>look at this awesome circle driver champions
fuck off retard

>In what way
As I said, the presentation. The menus, the way the cars are presented, the loading screens and the soundtrack of GT games is the best in the industry for me (I love jazz and classical).

>Please give specifics otherwise it sounds like you're just talking out your ass. Forza 7 is a great looking game too.
As I said like Forza 7 and it's currently the only driving game I'm playing despite it being a buggy mess on PC. I actually preordered the Ultimate edition for $100, that's how much I like Forza.

>And soundtrack? SOUNDTRACK? You think that's important in a driving sim game? Are you fucking INSANE?
Maybe I'm autistic but I enjoy the little things. Soundtrack is very important to me, especially in a driving game. Forza 7 has the worst soundtrack in any game I have played
One of tye first things I did when I first started playing is turning off the music
It's a shame because FH3 had a great soundtrack.

Let's face it. Most of the people who are saying each game haven't played both of them at all or at least enough to get a feel of each one. I actually have and with a wheel (played psvr GT sport as well). I can say that I enjoyed forza a lot more. It just felt more enjoyable to play, the car choices is immense and I like the way the single player mode is fully fledged whereas the GT sport one feels like it's tacked on (which it kinda is).

Tldr; my vote would be forza 7

>Maybe I'm autistic but I enjoy the little things.
it is important. hiroshima doesntp put in 60 hours of menu soundtrack into these games for no reason

Funny that Loeb prefers DIRT rally over GT. As with many other Drivers. Fernando Alonso thought DIRT 4 was a great sim. I mean, you are bringing up drivers and they play anything but GT and trying to shit on Turnleft which still is producing better Road Course drivers than GT. GT is nothing but a meme these days. Never mind Rally in GT Sport being worse than any of Milestone's Rally games.

Well GTS models are made in-house with a lot of love and care. Turn10's are made by different contracted studios who only do it for the money in the most efficient way possible.
This is one of the reasons I'm not impressed at Forza's selection of cars at all. I'd rather get 1/10th top quality models instead of x10 imported mediocre ones. I'm glad Polyphony didn't recycle anything and ditched all their old models, AFAIK GTS's models will still look good for 9th gen, so the current "lack" of content is more of a long-term plan, they are already building up a base for the next GT game(s)

funny how loeb also claimed to train with gran turismo 2 back then. at a time he was still relevant.

Didn't he have a game of his own?

>I'm glad Polyphony didn't recycle anything and ditched all their old models
>GTS's models will still look good for 9th gen, so the current "lack" of content is more of a long-term plan, they are already building up a base for the next GT game(s)

it doesnt even matter what these guy says. now we are all actually implying these guys arent getting paid to say this

Which guy, Loeb?

He's right, user.
They literally scraped all their goddamn Premium models of GT5 and 6 because they weren't quality enough for GTS

While I think that the physics in GTS are not anywhere close to that of most PC sims, I wouldn't go so far as to call it arcade. You can tell they are going for realistic physics, they just can't figure out quite how to pull it off.

Is there a more boring genre than racing sims? Hardmode: dont say walking sims

Arcade racing is where its at.

Of course building new models for every game isn't viable, but GTS was a long needed reset button for new assets.

>arcade racing
LOOK DADDY I DO THE DRIFT AT 200 KM PER HOUR HAHA

Fuck you might aswell just play fucking Mario Kart at that rate.

That's like saying first person shooters are way better that strategy games. They are completely unrelated genres with entirely different goals. Arcade games are meant to be fun, sims are meant to be rewarding.

>sim racing
LOOK DADDY IM SLOW AS FUCK AND I TAKE TURNS AT 20MPH

I have both and would say if you want to play online, GT Sport for sure. Its online implementation is like ten steps above every racing sim on consoles, iRacing is still king on PC but iRacing physics suck ass and its too expensive. SP is barebones shite but who cares in a racing sim for that? The AI in every racing sim is worthless trash.
Forza 7 now I really regret I bought it. The FFB is shite, online is shite, the way you have to use the lootboxes in order to get more credits after a race is shite. Really disappointed with this game.

Can you explain this to me?
The main reason GT5 took so long to be released was because each premium module took months to complete since PD was creating them with future proofing in mind. And now you tell me that they scraped those models and started from scratch again. Why?

They have to make compromises since most people play the game with a controller. Ultra realistic physics don't control well with a controller.

>Arcade racing
You mean a game where you just accelerate and turn the joystick right or left?

Yeah, I'm not a brainlet. I enjoy having more control over my car. I'll sticks to sims.

Horizon has always been a sandbox style racing game where you’re free to do whatever you want. And that’s what makes it good.

Go play NFS Payback and deal with its retarded Speed Card system that only idiots who think grinding in a racing game to get what you want
is fine and counts as “progression”, and I guarantee you’ll appreciate Horizon 3.

PCARS 2 is better on consoles because it uses TrueSkill and measures your contact by type so if you trade paint, bump draft or move someone up a lane on the ovals. It won't affect your rating but you can be suspended by SMS for deliberate crashing. GT doesn't have any of that and is all sector based. GT Sport just sucks.

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I'm glad that FH3 is on PC, but also wish that FH2 had been on PC as well. I'm not sure I have the heart to buy an Xbone just for that though.