Post apocalyptic game

>post apocalyptic game
>The currency isn't bottle caps

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>The currency is semen

What a shit thread. You should be ashamed.

>the currency is bullets

>there is a currency

Without a form of government, a currency can not exist. Any society would revert to barter and trade.

>Game set 100 years in the future
>Shops where you buy and trade things physically still exist

>post apocalyptic game
>they use a form of national established currency rather than just trading things

>post apocalyptic game
>The currency is bottle caps

>fallout 2 did this

Makes most sense don't it?
Bullets together with a gun giving you power and power over others make them follow you or at least avoid you.

I never understood how bullets or water could be used as currency. I mean you still have to use them so you just lose it.

>>post apocalyptic game
>>The currency isn't Neo-Shekels

>post apocalyptic game
>currency
>not trading

Makes some sort of sense:
In a post apocalyptic setting, due to the amplified danger, security becomes one of the main important traits anyone could and must have. Travelling without ammo or let alone a gun would mean a certain death, and since everyone wants safety bullets become valuable.
This is why in Metro the golden bullets are more valuable, because they are high quality and do more damage.

Barter systems are literally a meme economists came up with, anthropologists have little evidence of their usage in ancient societies.

theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/barter-society-myth/471051/

>bottle caps are a currency
Fucking why? They're not worth anything, this shit is dumb.

Currencies existed well before established governments.

Paper isn't worth anything, but you buy everything with paper bills user.

That's the point. Fiat money nowadays are easily produced by specialiced machines with a much higher value printed on them than their material cost (for the most part).
There's no point in using water or food as a currency because they don't fulfill the most basic principles
>hard to reproduce properly
>very homogenic
>easily distinguishable from other forms of currency
>materials which aren't in strong demand or needed for basic commodities

>Men from the visiting group sit quietly while women of the opposite moiety come over and give them cloth, hit them, and invite them to copulate. They take any liberty they choose with the men, amid amusement and applause, while the singing and dancing continue. Women try to undo the men’s loin coverings or touch their penises, and to drag them from the “ring place” for coitus. The men go with their … partners, with a show of reluctance to copulate in the bushes away from the fires which light up the dancers. They may give the women tobacco or beads. When the women return, they give part of this tobacco to their own husbands.

>currency is rupees even though there's isnt a central king or government

What the fuck were they thinking?

give examples

I played all of Metro without using the golden bullets for shooting at all. Did I do it wrong?

?

Weapons have been used for bartering for thousands of years.

>sequel to the post apocalyptic game that started the bottle cap money trend
>the currency is now some weird fucking gold coins
>they’re never mentioned ever again in the series

What the fuck happened?

>Post-post apocalyptic game

Nigga if you went through Metro without even using a single golden bullet means you're actually doing something right.

They most likely did, but they also had a governing body over them, it doesn't have to be the government, but it does need some power over the currency and it's value and a way to enforce it. Merchant Guilds were a thing in the old days after all.

Otherwise what incentive do you have to get people to accept shekkels instead of... I dunno, a goat? they would think you're ripping them off.

>post apocalyptic game
>using currency
Yeah no. If I see naively selling skewered rats on the side of the road I'll just kill you for them. Not only do I get a hot day meal. I get some new clothes, supplies and human meat I can cook for food later. Plus I pretty sure I could use your skin for something.

>Without a form of government, a currency can not exist
Oh you poor, poor statist fool
mises.org/system/tdf/What Has Government Done to Our Money_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

>barter is unrealistic
>but accepting IOUs from starving people isn't
this article is retarded

>post apocalyptic game
>The currency is bottle caps

Why not? Utility is an excellent basis for a currency because that item will always hold intrinsic value.

This was mentioned in Fallout 2 and NV.

>Ater Fallout 1, NCR becomes major power in the west coast
>Its currency ends up the standard currency of the entire region during Fallout 2
>NCR-BoS war destabilizes the value of the $NCR
>Decreasing demand for $NCR makes caps stronger in the Nevada frontiers of NCR territory

>>post apocalyptic game
post means after. as in no longer the apocalypse.
society is rebuilding itself, and you can no longer wear and take skins as you please

>Post apocalyptic game
>Currency is bitcoin

Keyword rebuilding, not rebuilt. Until society is fully reestablished, I am not bound to any laws or societal expectations. Meaing I am free to try killing and skinning anyone as I see fit.

just because they're still rebuilding don't expect a bunch of glassy eyed apathetic survivors to ignore your actions
expect a slow execution for public entertainment probably involving skin

He is both dead and a hobbo.

So basically individually controlled inflation.

>you have useless trinket that simply harkens to prewar times to give comfort
>or you have bullets which are extremely vital in a post-apocalyptic scenario, and everyone will take and use for a variety of things, be it actual ammunition, melting down copper/lead for other purposes, harvesting black powder for explosives, etc etc
Really bullets as currency is my favorite form of currency if there just HAS to be one, instead of a bartering system.

Bartering has rarely been done well though, it's usually based around some sort of higher monetary system which sort of defeats the purpose.

early irish society used all sorts of things for currency, even including young maidens, they were called 'cumals'. This books first hundred pages is all about the history/anthropology of currency

>Space game
>Currency is Dogecoin

>post apocalyptic game

so Metro?

>every post-apoc game needs to be derivative of Fallout

this

can we stop replying to this thread please

>post apocalyptic game
>after 1000 years the civilization is still fucked and too incompetent to rebuild itself

god I fucking hate this

That's like going through a JRPG without using an elixir until the final boss.

In original fallout bottlecaps are backed by purified water, it was a consense created by traders.
It kinda lost sense on fallout 4 as how easy is to get purified water.
Hell even in New vegas where you can get clean water almost from any natural pool.

enjoy getting raped with a rusty machete by angry mexicans after you kicked their chihuahueño becuase "no laws XD"

WHAT GAME DO THIS

Bottle caps were backed by water in Fallout 1 and 2.

>In New California, the relative scarcity of bottle caps made them a perfect currency for Hub merchants to adopt in the 22nd century, leading to the nickname "Hubbucks" and "Hubscript." Backed by the value of water, the Hub merchants supported bottle caps because the technology to manufacture them and paint their surfaces had been mostly lost in the Great War, which limited any counterfeiting efforts. Secondly, there are a limited number of bottle caps, which preserve their value against inflation to some degree. For similar reasons the East Coast merchants also recognize bottle caps as a currency, although who backs them and guarantees their value is unknown.

yes
gotta get that retirement fund

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I could see bullets starting off as currency in a post apocalyptic society but they wouldn't last because they're what's typically referred to as Commodity Currency (currencies with actual value). Examples would be the gold or silver coin, which historically in societies that used them like Ancient Rome would be phased out and replaced by a currency with no value (in Rome it was a case of gold and silver coins steadily becoming more and more diluted with tin and copper to the point that there was almost no actual gold or silver in them anymore).

So, post apocalypse, you might start with bullets as a currency but 20-50 years later people would have moved on to using Bullet Casings as a Representative Currency (a currency that represents value despite the individual currency units having little or no inherent value).

So yeah, post apocalyptic society would end up using bullet casings rather than bullets just like every other society historically inevitably shifted from Commodity Currency to Representative Currency.

This is completely incorrect and shows a staggering failure to understand how currencies arise and why. Currency would arise in any given society, government or no government to avoid the issue of the "Coincidence of Needs", the fundamental problem with barter and trade that you must have exactly what your trading partner wants and your partner must have exactly what you want and you both must agree that the two items are of equal value. In any society that has reached a certain level of specialization and complexity (whether it has a government or not) a currency of some variety is required.

>no gun that fires bottle caps

Bit of a side note but cryptocurrencies are shit in an interplanetary or interstellar society because they add an additional confirmation pass between the requester and the bank/exchange. With communications being locked at the speed of light, it already takes hours to perform a normal bank account withdrawal from Mars, to do so using a cryptocurrency would take twice or even three times as long.

>post apocalyptic game
>the currency isn't child slaves

Shin Megami Tensei

>post apocalyptic game
>currency is dirty magazines

>not pantsu

I haven't played every Zelda game, but is it ever explained what rupees are actually made of? Are they some sort of stone or colored glass? Or are they like gemstones which are carved into shape somehow?

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>Isn't Yuno
Why even live bros?

"Paper" currency is a coupon to pay your taxes

It turns out, people with gold backed USD weren't regularly withdrawing gold from the government, because more commonly they had debts to the government (taxes).

Instead of withdrawing gold from the government and then giving gold back to the government to pay your taxes, just skip the gold and pay the coupons to the government directly.

>post apocalyptic game
>the currency is in porno mags

>t. guy who will be shot first during rebuilding society cuz noone needs some crazy moron running around