>it has been impossible to build a decent gaming pc due to buttcoin miners ramping up gpu prices for months now
Seriously, not only there are no exclusives, no physical games, no second hand market, games are buggy as fuck console ports unplayable at launch, denuvo, rampant piracy and hackers online, exploits up the ass for overall pc security, fucking windows 10,and now even if you wanted to endure all of this bullshit you need to pay like 2x the price of a ps4 for a mid tier gpu.
Is this the final nail in the coffin for pc gaming?
Lincoln Reyes
>Is this the final nail in the coffin for pc gaming?
Nope.
Lincoln Johnson
pc gaming has been a meme ever since valve stopped making games.
Ryan Perez
>Is this the final nail in the coffin for pc gaming?
unfortunately not, mustards will continue to shovel shit down their gullets to justify their $8000 shitposting machine
Andrew Hall
It's been a year since i told Sup Forums about it, making threads, etc : PC GAMING IS DEAD.
Gabriel Martin
Pc gaming is fine, console peasant.
Blake Kelly
and ETH is back at $900 ahahah. No one will be able to get a GPU
Mason Brooks
This thread again
Ian Sanders
it's really not
Julian Fisher
You stick to PC gaming out of principles and hope for the golden age to come back.
Asher Cruz
Why are PCs called "Mustards"?
Nathaniel Lee
Its basically going to take either AMD or Nvidia making a gaming only card crippled for bitcoin farming and a bitcoin focused non gaming card.
It'd kill resale for burnt out gaming cards and get a shitload of goodwill with gamers.
Ethan Brown
It means I won't upgrade for a while. I hope this shit dies off soon because this is obnoxious. Its my bday next week and I had a desire to get a nice GPU, like a 1080 ti or something and a good 1440 monitor. Now its fucking pointless. Could have gotten that combo for under a grand 6 months ago. Now its a grand for the GPU alone.
Alexander Cooper
Because consoles need to ketchup.
Hunter Lee
>It'd kill resale for burnt out gaming cards And that's exactly why they don't make them. Miners wouldn't buy them.
Bentley Miller
Miners are shortsighted retards, if it offered 10% increased performance for the same price as a last gen gaming card they'd buy it up like crazy.
Sebastian Ward
>no exclusives ??? >no physical games, no second hand market Even on consoles, games are no longer games but "services" that wont work unless the console has an account. The plug and play era is pretty much gone >games are buggy as fuck console ports unplayable at launch This depends on how skilled is the developer to deliver a fixage or the community: ie. Dsfix >Denuvo Only on AAA shit, and hackers race to see which group breaks it faster >Rampant piracy No problem desu, only bad games suffer this one >hackers online, exploits up the ass for overall pc security This is not a PC problem only, consoles have homebrew and custom firmware >fucking windows 10 Win 10 vanilla isn't that bad, their patches are shit. >and now even if you wanted to endure all of this bullshit you need to pay like 2x the price of a ps4 for a mid tier gpu. I hope that with crypto regulation this meme finally goes down, but probably during this year and the following it will be almost impossible to build a gaming ppc >Is this the final nail in the coffin for pc gaming? Probably there will be less PC versions of AAA games during the next year or next two years
Anthony Diaz
>Tfw got a 1070 before all this bother for 250 quid
Bentley King
They could very easily force retailers to set up a limit of 2 per customer, they just don't want to.
Daniel Hughes
>This is not a PC problem only, consoles have homebrew and custom firmware
And it's way easier to get banned, console banned, and you have to pay to play online. I've never seen a hacker online in a console game sans handhelds or the Wii U.
Henry Ramirez
Wouldn't change shit. God you can't even comprehend the basic of economy? Supply and demand?
Elijah Gonzalez
So i'm still on a GTX 770 4gb I built in like 2013/14 and its starting to show its age bad. I need an upgrade within the next few months, so basically what should I get/pay for a GPU in the current price climate?
Matthew Butler
This will be the decade of the prebuilt PC.
Charles Brown
>miner in full defense mode trying to hype his scam again because it crashed and nobody want to buy his coins anymore.
pyramid scheme.
Cameron Barnes
There is literally nothing worth your money in the market right now. It's best to keep using old hardware for at least 1 to 2 years and see what the future holds. Buying right now would be suicide.
Robert Phillips
Must suck for you Americans, GPU prices have not changed at all over here.
Tyler Peterson
MEANWHILE AT user'S BITCOIN FARM
Andrew Robinson
Upgrading is suicide because you're forced to use Win10 now.
Julian Brown
You don't need 1080ti to play video games.
Julian Edwards
CONTINUED FROM user'S BITCOIN FARM
Easton Harris
Its been 10 years since some other idiot told everyone about it, and here we are.
Easton Cox
If you already have the 4k or 144hz its probably the wisest choice, but other than that you're fine with a 1060 or 1050ti
Jayden Harris
Don't buy anything. Play less demanding games in your backlog while you save money for a good upgrade when the prices normalize -if they do. If they don't, just quit pc gaming; that's what I'll do if the prices are not reasonable when my gpu shits itself.
Brody Barnes
Not true, they have not soared idiotically, but they have increased to 1.3 or 1.5 times their price from last year.
Brandon Hernandez
...
Christian Stewart
Kingdom Come Deliverance blew your hypothesis the fuck away
Easton Williams
That was the point, but it's not only that. Overall 2018 is a terrible year to spend money on PC upgrades. Might even be for the next 2 years.
This damage is going to last.
Justin Lewis
>Been wanting to get a new video card >Notice the whole shitcoin mess >Remember I mostly play old games and most of my games in my backlog can be run on a toaster >This isn't even counting mods
I can wait as long as it needs for this retarded market to inevitably crash. The advantage of enjoying old games has paid off.
Jordan King
My making money is more important than your childish enjoyment of games you loser
Parker Clark
>inevitably crash It's only going to get more popular. The only people getting stung are those who bought in at the peaks
Michael Clark
Buttcoin miners are fucking retarded. The chances of the actually earning a Bittcoin now are so minuscule that you will never see a payoff from all the power and GPUs you had to buy.
Asher Jones
can someone explain to me what bitcoin mining even is and why you need CPUs for that? /biz/ just keeps memeing it up instead of giving me a proper answer
Jaxson Sanders
the cryptomeme fad already wore off Shitcoin only went up in price because normies were told they could buy PC graphic cards for free money and went in hordes like the retards they are like OP's pic Shitcoin spiked in price because of all the influx of retards, and now that they realized they're not actually earning the free money like they thought, they've pulled out and shitcoin has dropped in price already
Jason Reed
If you have 4k and 144hz, then you probably have 1080 already, otherwise what the fuck are you doing nigga.
And my 1060ti can handle everything I throw at it in 1080p.
Jace Martinez
>still can't afford to replace my 770 FUCK
Lincoln Morris
>paying for an overpriced, pile of shit video card in the first place What's killing GAMING IN GENERAL are fucking graphicsfags. If your fucking game can't run on a goddamn $300 budget, low-power, mini-PC, your game is stupid.
Fuck the idiots who think you have to build some supercomputer bullshit just because LOLGRAFIX that don't mean shit in gaming. Enjoy your gaming crash because of this brain-dead mentality.
Carter Green
Mining bitcoin is essentially just verifying bitcoin transactions. Each transaction you verify has a chance of rewarding you a bitcoin, but since bitcoin are finite the chances of gaining a bitcoin from verifying transactions decreases as more are issued. The software for verifying transactions was designed so people with enthusiast level PCs could use their under utilized GPU power to mine bitcoin.
Dominic Nguyen
Nope. Crypto crashes, cheap used GPUs flood the market
Jonathan Turner
bitcoin mining is racist because us kangz don't know how to do it.
Jose Gray
i want to punch this fucker in the face
Camden Morgan
>Is this the final nail in the coffin for pc gaming? No but keep telling yourself that if it helps.
There are more off the shelve engines and easy of development that ever before. Modern consoles are a minor step removed from being normal x86 computers, making porting costs the lowest they've ever been. Console makers have to put up even bigger cash if they want to keep devs exclusive.
Console makes missed the biggest opportunity to attract PC users if they simply offered 1080p 60fps, but they chased 4k and stayed on peasant level 30fps. And they still have to rely on upscaling for most titles.
We also have two fairly new emulators, one for the wiiU and ps3, with a switch in the works. Microsofts store DRM also recently got cracked, so their scant exclusives are next.
Jordan Peterson
Hopefully. Gaming should be owned by just one and only giant corporation, i'm pretty sure that would be wonderful for everyone.
Nathan James
my pc still plays all games i want to play
Luke Adams
This. I have a huge backlog and almost none of it is especially demanding. Gonna upgrade cpu, ram and mobo next month and that'll be it for a while. My meme 970 will have to do until it either dies or gpu prices recover. I am fine with 1080p gaming for the time being. Will switch to consoles only if all fails in the end
Benjamin Fisher
>when bitcoin crashed I was able to get a gtx1070ti for $300 because of a miner doing a fire sale
James Howard
>Pc gaming is dead I've been seeing these threads for 8 years now.
Isaiah Stewart
I needed a new computer so I just bought prebuilt for £1600. Does the job.
Easton Harris
>buying a GPU that has been throttled for months for $300
Hunter Rogers
Never follow any make-yourself-rich fads let alone any popular investments. When an investment option becomes popular it sails off to raise and crash spectacularly. It'll be even harsher on Bitcoin because unless you exchange your funnymoney with actual money it is worthless.
Camden Rodriguez
GTFO commie
Brody Price
>yfw buttcoin wrecks humanity because lazy cunts would rather mine it than contribute something actually worthwile to society
Isaiah Anderson
whats a hotbed
Aaron Ramirez
>implying you aren't throttling your gpu right now by shit posting on Sup Forums instead of playing games It's no worse than putting it on idle heat and electricity wise
Bentley Ortiz
money down the drain, bitcoins value has halved and looks like it will continue to halve for the rest of the year as the stock market also takes a downturn and the world goes back to the 2008 recession.
Parker Young
Oh no, not a correction! That never happens in stock markets! Nocoiner
Caleb Hernandez
I feel you, bought asscreed origin and its sluggish at 720p
Benjamin Russell
Hasn't happened. Will not happen.
Hudson Flores
Google you fucking retard
Hudson Anderson
>believing in climate change in two thousand and eighteen
wew
Levi Ross
>mfw by 2070 the average person will be wearing a vr set™ fapping to vore porn while minning Bitcoins™ and taking prozac to keep a Healthy Mind™
Isaiah Harris
>770 How about My 270x ?
Benjamin Adams
>Got sucked into the 'Crossfire will be better with DX12' meme >get two 390s on sale >Multi-GPU has been dead since W10 came out. Doesn't help that optimization for a lot of AAA has been complete garbage as well. Shit like FFXV "supports" 8k res, but doesn't support sli/CF.
Xavier Edwards
It's just not worth it to deal with pc gaming's bullshit anymore. Even the increase in grafix isn't worth having to deal with all of this shit. You can get a ps4 for 200 bucks nowadays and that will give you access to 99% of AAA shit, the rest you can pay on any toaster from the last 7 years.
Grayson Bennett
This is true. Playing videogames on and off damages the GPU more than it working at a constant rate and heat.
Just like how a HDD's lifespan is increased the less you reboot you computer.
Cooper Hernandez
amen brother
Nathaniel Rodriguez
>Just like how a HDD's lifespan is increased the less you reboot you computer.
thank god, i havent turned off my PC in like 2 years
Hunter Rivera
socializing and having sex is more fun anyway
Kevin Adams
Considering I've never before owned a console in my life and I just got a ps4 pro I'd say yes.
Luis Gutierrez
do american retailers not limit cards per customer? Australian places have limited to 2 cards per customer and prices are the exact same and there is no "shortage"
Justin Garcia
There's really no reason to be PC-exclusive anymore
Ever since Valve stopped making games, Blizzards pretty much dominated and all of their games suck fucking ass
Kingdom Comes the first decent eurojank in a while but it's not enough to justify building a high end PC.
Bannerlord is the only thing that can save the platform
Jace Martinez
>mfw I bought a RX 580 8GB for 269$ on Black Friday 2017 >mfw that 2 weeks after that Black Friday i haven't seen a decently priced GPU from ANY company.
I dodged a bullet.
Landon Ward
>Is this the final nail in the coffin for pc gaming?
Meltdown and Spectre were
Landon Brown
>dealing with locked down, limited choice bullshit consoles BUY A FUCKING CHEAP PC AND STOP PLAYING SHITTY OVERBLOWN GRAFIXFUX GAMES
JESUS SHIT "GAMERS", THE SOLUTION IS FUCKING SIMPLE.
Lucas Nguyen
>Is this the final nail in the coffin for pc gaming? Nope. PC gaming is too strong.
Dylan Flores
Why would they?
Jeremiah Butler
>STOP PLAYING SHITTY OVERBLOWN GRAFIXFUX GAMES
So what's the point of a gaming pc if you're only going to play 2d indieshit? You're literally saying pc gaming is dead and reduced to 2d nineties shit that runs on office laptops.
Bentley Taylor
>cheapest 1080 GTX is 620 euros that's 770 dollars. is this a normal price?
Dylan Jackson
Fuck I feel you, got a 760 right now and an i7, bought KCD and i'm getting 20-30 FPS on medium, thought it time to upgrade (I've been ignoring the whole crypto boom) and was taken aback when i saw how much GPU prices have gone up. Fucking cryptoshits.
Noah Nelson
>pc gaming is too strong
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
kingdom come deliverance didnt even peak at 100k, fucking strong ass master race...never seen this much delusion
Grayson Brooks
Gaming IS dead. Gaming was only good in the 80s and early 90s because it wasn't style over substance trash like the late 90s started to spew out to a new generation of "gamers" who were brainwashed to like garbage.
Jason Harris
That's a high price but it's not as bad as here.
Ryan Williams
I'm too dumb to tell if you are being rhetorical or not, so I'll answer straight. No, that's not a normal price. My friend payed less than that nearly two years ago.
Carter Watson
bro I had 60 bitcoins I bought for a dollar in 2009 when Sup Forums said to go heavily into it and sold them at $18K I don't give a shit about the current mining BS
Ryder Hill
lolol it's a smear of "pc master race" turning into "pc mustard race"
Robert Brooks
Nigger, gaming is not dead, ps4 and switch are stronger than ever with a shitload of amazing games. Only pc gaming is fucking dead.
Jonathan Cruz
Is it still possible to get a video card at a reasonable price for decent graphics if I'm not that interested in ultra high-end graphics?
Brandon Campbell
yeah nothing to worry about, just that chinese hoax ;)
Ian Hill
high popularity/opportunity for making money. like silicon valley is a tech hotbed.
Bentley Gray
>shitload of amazing games Name fucking one.
One goddamn game that isn't a fucking story-heavy pile of goddamn shit or some shiny pseudo-game with shit controls. Or both.
You can't do it. You fucking can't.
Yes, PC gaming is dead, too. It suffers from the same fucking problem.
The only good games left are ones before 99% of you were fucking born.
Kevin Torres
I feel u was gonna get a 1060 when they were like $100 some at this store near me but the next time i got paid i went back and then entire section was cleared out. >gt 730 right now