You are now in charge of developing a new Sonic fighter. How do you do it?

You are now in charge of developing a new Sonic fighter. How do you do it?

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I cancel it.

You don't

Make Sonic Battle 2 but in actual 3D. They could even integrate that gay Avatar shit from Forces in the place of Emerl. Traditional fighter would be okay too, but I think an unconventional style of fighting game is a better fit for the franchise.

well, i don't put fucking rings in it thats for starters

Make SEGA Smash Bros instead

It's a reference to Sonic the Fighter you dip.

Make the OC stuff like Create a Soul in SC and have the gameplay be like Sonic the Fighter

Have around 12 recognizable characters and arenas, make it a 3D Fighter, no archie shit like in the pic, put it on 3DS and use its features, online mode, lots of offline content & modes, and...that's about it. Have the Wisps be items.
This, more or less.

Faggots

Do Sonic characters even have enough of a difference in one another to where you could actually make unique movesets for each of them?

Yes. It's not that hard to imagine.

Yes, but not if they have to use real martial arts.
To really make it work, you need a mix of weapons, movement speed + some space, grabs, and a reasonable gimmick.
So less Tekken/Street Fighter and more Smash Bros/Marvel VS Capcom

Sonic Tag Fighter. Same type of gameplay as the first one but quicker and with a tag mechanic.

Most Sonic characters have a "gimmick" to them, so you can easily just take whatever that is and design a moveset around it.

So... Mugen stuff?
What doesn't Mugen have, beyond 3D?

I meant like Sonic the Fighter, which was a VF/Fighting Viper like game. Take that type of gameplay, give it some team stuff and make it faster, and there's a solid base for a game.

Make it half and half. The arenas are constantly deteriorating/blowing the hell up between rounds, making you play a PVP platformer when the bell rings to get to the next fight. Health is shared between these two modes, and you can collect power ups and shit while you’re running to the next stopping point. Keep the basic Sonic the Fighters play style for battles (with obvious tweaking and speeding up) and make a couple of modes:
>Classic-1V1 to the knockout or when both players reach the Goal Ring
>& Knuckles Mode-1V1 with an assist character for more combo moves at the cost of health
>Heroes Mode-3V3
>Eggman’s Revenge-The story mode where you hone your skills solo against hordes of robots, unique rivals, and even some good ol’ fashioned platforming with some fighting game twists.
>Eggman’s Level Factory-Lets you design and test homemade levels using terrain, parts, and robots collected through gameplay.

I'll take it.

Bump.

Make it like Dragon Ball Fighterz, fast paced, 2D, cartoony and very flashy.

>Wisps

Absolutely disgusting.jpg

Wisps = bad because...?

You need more than 12, I’d put it at about 18-21.
Archie shit would actually be fun. We’d get one or two sword fighters and homosexual walruses.
A Wisp mode would be cool for a party battle concept, at least.

Not that user but Wisps are lackluster design-wise, they didn't really have any good story or worldbuilding reason to show up after Colors (Generations maybe gets off the hook on account of its throwback nature) and as of today I'd say they've probably prominently featured in more shit games than good ones.

They're not a complete write-off but they don't really add anything good to the Sonic series. Just put the powerups in monitors, it'll leave less of a sour taste in peoples mouths.

Are there even 21 characters that even do shit in the franchise? Not dead characters from past eras, characters that actually do shit now.

No Archie stuff. It's dead.

Yeah, Wisps are neat.

Sorry for the tone. Talking with Sonic's fanbase tends to bring out my bad side, and I always feel like I have to put certain things down before they rise up and derail everything.

>Story and Worldbuilding.
> Sonic the Hedgehog.

Not even that user, but why do people care? Can someone please explain?

Smash Bros. but with more exaggerated slope and air-momentum physics. When you hit characters, some rings come out, so there's an opportunity for you to effectively "steal" small amounts of health off your opponent, or for them to recover a fraction of what they lost. 2v2s, 3v3s and tag-team 2v2's/3v3s are available game modes so that you can have iconic line-ups like Sonic & Tails or Team Hooligans.

Stages and characters from all over the canon, but ONLY the Sega Sonic canon and related Sega games. No Archie, no Boom, no Sonic fucking Underground. If they really want some wildcard characters then throw in Mighty or Ristar but even Ristar is a push because I'd prefer that they just make the most of the characters Sonic already has in its back catalog.

Get some hype musicians on board for the soundtrack to do hype remixes of the "epic" and edgy songs from throughout the franchise, from Doomsday/Big Arm to Live And Learn to Terminal Velocity

Sonic Powerstone, maybe?

Personally I find bad story and worldbuilding to be more off-putting than no story and worldbuilding. Maybe "Sonic doesn't need a story" but why the fuck are the power-ups lame little power-of-friendship aliens instead of just something sleek and functional like a monitor?

Nah, I get it. You’re right, they don’t use a ton of their characters anymore. I just thought a fighting game would be a good chance to knock off the dust. E102 would be one of my first picks, the whole self aware robot questioning morality and mortality was one of the best characters they ever wrote.

They look like they fit in to me. *shrug*

To each their own, I personally think they look lazy compared to, say, the little animal critters, and they recall bad memories of lackluster games like Lost World.

Omega's in Forces and Olympics, so I can understand him. I don't know the morality thing (comics?), but he's the best character in Heroes.

21 Characters, right?

Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
Shadow
Metal Sonic
Eggman
Zavok
Omega
Silver
Blaze
Buddy?
Classic Sonic
Rouge?
Infinite?
Orbot
Cubot
Sticks
Some sort of Badnik?
Mayyyybe Chaos? I feel like I'm strecthig.
Jet
Zazz?
Chao for a nostalgia pander character? (Classic's more or less part of the cast now, for good or ill.)

That's all I got.

You forgot Cream and the Chaotix.

>Chaotix
Fucking this

He's talking about Gamma you retard

No to Cream, but I can't believe I forgot the Chaotix! They can be in.

Shit, you're right. I had still-used characters on the mind.

He can be some sort of trophy, or something? Think the cards from the Rivals games. He could be a card. Cream, as well.

>tfw you like Lost World.

To start with, just combine the rosters of Sonic The Fighters and Sonic Battle
>Sonic
>Tails
>Knuckles
>Amy
>Shadow
>Rouge
>Cream
>Emerl
>Gamma
>Chaos
>Eggman
>Fang
>Bean
>Bark
>Metal Sonic
>Espio
Put in the other Chaotix members for good measure and that's a good base to start with. From there I guess they can throw in more obscure, one-off or non-canon shit like Sticks, Egg-Robo, Big The Cat or NiGHTS.

I think this is the only time I have legitimately sympathized with an user.

If we’re making a Sonic Fighter, then Bean, Bark, and Fang have to be invited. That’s just how it is.
We need a joke fighter, too. I nominate Scratch & Grounder as a bumbling Stance Fighter duo. Canon or no, they’d be a welcome addition.

Sonic Battle didn't have them, and nobody knows who they are.

>Nobody knows who they are
We're living in the age of the internet where you can look everything up in seconds, and they make a prominent boss appearance in Sonic Mania, one of the most well-renowned Sonic games of all time and a damn good seller too, if Sega's end of year reports were anything to go by. They also achieved meme status through their consistently entertaining roles in the comic.

If it were 2003 like when Sonic Battle came out, you might have a point, but it's 2018. People know who Bean, Bark and Fang are.

The first 3 cameo’d in Mania recently, and were in Sonic the Fighters, so I thought they deserved the legacy spot.
As for Scratch and Grounder, I’m sure they never made it to the games but everyone knows who they are if they’ve ever opened YouTube. They’re a shit pick, but it’d be hilarious.

> Too much pandering in recent games.
> Let's pander more!
> Franchise aimed at kids.
Um...

>Too much pandering
I really don't see it particularly as pandering, it was done pretty tastefully in Sonic Mania and they'd be a good fit in a Sonic fighter as they're legacy characters. Besides, from a marketing standpoint kids mostly won't give a shit beyond the standard Sonic/Tails/Knuckles/Amy/Shadow/Eggman so if the only criteria for inclusion is "down with the kidz" then we're gonna end up with a real small roster.

Like kids would give a shit
>”I’ll play as the polar bear, he looks strong”
>”This goofy duck is pretty cool, and he has bombs!”
>”This weasel has a gun! I’ll play as him!”
Whether or not they recognize them wouldn’t matter. Sonic’s on the cover and they’re there if anyone wants to pick ‘em.

Sonic has enough friends to go around without hitting them, though.
Another user talked about trading cards. Maybe do that for them, instead?
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I did too, user. I did, too. You forgot to add a pic, though.

>Not dead characters from past eras
But those are the best characters for licensed fighting games, the oddball choices who nobody expects or who have small cult followings.

Just an off-the-top-of-my-head roster with 21 characters:
>Sonic
>Tails
>Knuckles
>Amy
>Espio
>Charmy
>Vector
>Metal Sonic
>Eggman
>Nack/Fang
>Kukku (not an Archie OC, he's from Tails' Adventure)
>Shadow
>Rouge
>Omega
>Cream
>Big
>Silver
>Blaze
>Emerl or Gemerl (not both)
>Jet
>Sticks

You have a mix of old shit, new shit, popular shit, cult shit, and a character or two that nobody asked for but might become more popular as a result of people playing the game. That's the kind of roster you need for a licensed fighter, a big mix like this.

Keep those faggot Freedom Fighters away from it. Build on Sonic the Fighters instead. But most of you faggots will push for Sonic Battle 2, so do that I guess.

Wait fuck I forgot about Infinite, he definitely needs to be in to shill Forces. Replace either Kukku or Jet with him.

>Sonic has enough friends to go around without hitting them, though.
This user () sums up my point pretty well - "the best characters in licensed fighting games are the oddball/cult choices". Everybody knows Mario and Link are going to be in the new Smash Bros, that's not what they get excited about - it's wildcard shit like Duck Hunt Dog that gets people talking.

Archiverse had great potential for fighters though.

Is Sonic really in a position to include past era characters? They've been trying to exclude that stuff. Sure, Mania, but I doubt they'll matter in the main series. And yeah, Infinite over Kukukku or whatever.

You haven't played Sonic the Fighter or Sonic Battle?

>no archie yet yes to Wisps
Gigantic prancing lala homo detected

Fuck off, those characters are dead. This is a game, not some shitty adaption with a supposed need for muh character development and muh plot.

So how would you anons make Eggman playable?
>Basic Egg Carton floaty shit
>E Mech from Fighters?
>The SA2 walkaround mech?
>Put him on the ground with boxing gloves and a few gadgets and watch him go bananas?

> Liking Archie
Brainlets everywhere.

Only good answers so far.

The last one, of course.

Bump.
This is getting interesting. Stupid, but interesting.

>Is Sonic really in a position to include past era characters?
Sonic basically lives and dies off nostalgia these days. There are absolutely people who would get hyped over seeing Nack/Fang in the game the same way people got hyped when they saw Yamcha was in DBFZ despite doing basically nothing since Dragonball turned into DBZ, or to use a game with a larger roster, seeing shit like Mercenary Tao or Tambourine in Budokai Tenkaichi 3. Plus, it's a fighting game spinoff, you don't have to stick entirely to what's canon, look at how many DBZ games include Broly because he's cool (I apologize for repeatedly using DBZ as an example). Characters like Nack or even Kukku would get a lot more buzz over their inclusion than any of the demons from Sonic Lost World, to use an example of a modern character that Sega wants to get popular.

>>Put him on the ground with boxing gloves and a few gadgets and watch him go bananas?
This one.

Give him a jetpack, robotic arm attachments, and Egg-Robo's laser gun. Let him do ridiculous shit like swinging around the GHZ wrecking ball. His run is the run he has in Adventure 2 no-mech. Mike Pollock memes it up for the taunts

>Mike Pollock memes it up for the taunts
Eggman's taunt needs to be him throwing the Emeralds around, Sonic 1 style.

Nah. Eggman should do weird things. Maybe breakdancing.

>I apologize for repeatedly using DBZ as an example
No, you're right for mentioning Dragon Ball, as with DBF, there were people literally shitting themselves over why Yamcha and Tenshinhan were added instead of the usual Saiyan/Powerelevelfaggotry package. I'll take Fang, Bean and Bark with Shadow, Rouge and Blaze any day, why not?

Sonic the Fighters gameplay with the characters from Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed. Throw in some minigame side modes.

>As for Scratch and Grounder, I’m sure they never made it to the games
I think they were in mean bean machine.

Does the PC version still get the TF2 characters?

Looks like you failed, user. It's how these go.
This needs to be a thing.

Include 3 types of fighter stats, Fast, Strong and Durable
Fast characters can do combos more easily
Strong characters take more life and can recharge hits
Durable characters have an extended Shield and recover it faster

Plus add up to 14 sonic characters, 6 others as secret
>Sonic
>Tails
>Knuckles
>Eggman(with a new robot)
>Metal Sonic
>Shadow
>Amy
>Silver
>Jet
>Blaze
>Rouge
>Espio
>Vector
>Cream

Secret:
>Infinite(Defeat 15 enemies in Infinite mode)
>Omega(Beat Arcade mode with Rouge and Shadow)
>Mephiles(Beat Arcade mode with Silver and Blaze)
>Chaos(Beat Arcade mode with Tails and Knuckles)
>Enerjak(Beat story mode)
>Mighty the Armadillo(Collect the 7 chaos emeralds in story mode)

If you are wondering about Super forms, the fighers will have a boost that they can use once per battle, which is a transformation, not uniquely Super tho(Infinite uses his sword weapon, Omega changes form, Jet gets on his board, etc)

Ditch/Switch Mighty, Mephiles, and Enerjak, and we're set.

Mighty has been gone for a while tho, I thought it would be a nice "Oh shit its him! Hes back!" moment

Well, give me some suggestions

Charmy
Zavok
Sticks
Egg-Robo

Sonic's roster is smaller than I thought, I admit. There's more relevant characters to pick from, though.

>Zavok
Fuck off Iizuka

> Izuka
See, THERE'S an idea from an out-of-nowhere fighter.

Well, Zavok makes for a good different style, changing for Mephiles
>Zavok(Beat Arcade mode with Eggman and Metal Sonic)

Sticks really doesnt stand out much, I dont think shes very good desu, and I dont know how Charmy could work

Instead of Egg-robo, how about this guy?
>Heavy King(Defeat every fighter at least once)

Charmy's could have more offensive/defensive/whatever moves than Tails while still being a flying character (butt stinger, use flowers from Heroes as traps, etc.) Think of him as the Luigi to Mario, Smash-wise.

Sticks could be ranged with her boomerangs and traps, and she could use stuff from Sonic Boom.

Heavies are costumes for Egg-Robo.

And maybe Orbot and Cubot as refs?

Bump.

Then how about DLC characters?
4 per DLC, 2 season passes
It seems to be the norm nowadays to add 8 fighters as paid content so
>Replace Omega with Charmy
>Charmy(Beat Arcade mode with Espio and Hector)
>DLC 1: Robo Assault(Omega/ Heavy King/ Eggrobo/ G-merl(emerl as alt costume))
>DLC 2: Out of Boundaries(Sticks/ Sally/ Bunnie/ Scourge)

I don't know...there's a lot of characters already. Maybe work on stages and other stuff? Swap Emerl for Buddy.

>Archie
I don't share the tone, but those characters are dead. No Tangle, Rough, or Tumble. They could be cameos, I guess.

>"If you own Sonic Forces and have completed the game, click extras and select your save file, this will create a code that upon inserting on Sonic Fighters 2 will get you a neat surprise..."

Also yeah, has anyone talked about stages yet?

I cancel it and make sonic battle 2 instead except with balanced online multiplayer

I like this idea. Just make sure he's unlockable without needing another game, even if it's hard to do.

I'll throw in some ideas:
Green Hill
Chemical Plant
Windy Valley
Grand Metropolis
Lava Reef
Oil Ocean (Mania)
Sunset Heights
Pumpkin Hill
Dessert Ruins
Starlight Carnival
Misty Lake
Hedgehog Village
Dinosaur Jungle
Blaze's Dimension
Hidden Palace
Death Egg
Eggman Land
Labyrinth

Each Zone should have a gimmick, with Green Hill having none. You can toggle the Zone gimmicks on or off. Wisps should be items, like another user said.

I'm trying to hit most of the big games.

For example, Labyrinth floods periodically, the Orca can break parts of the stage in Blaze's Dimension (it's the most beachy), the Death Egg could fire a laser every now and then, the ghosts can show up in Pumpkin Hill...stuff like that.

Whatever you do, DO NOT and i mean DO NOT take this track out.
Oh and make sure sticks can do a hadouken
youtube.com/watch?v=WQMvNj3QxBQ&t=18s

>sonic fighter

But why? Nonono, Sonic is better as 2D platformer.

that must be the winning pose though, especially with pollock yelling "try again!"

How about preorder codes? It works for Dragonball FighterZ

Also, maybe 1 stage from each of the main games?
>Green Hill(Sonic the Hedgehog)
>Chemical Plant(Sonic the Hedgehog 2)
>Death Egg(Sonic 3 & Knuckles)
>Metallic Madness(Sonic CD)
>Windy Valley(Sonic Adventure)
>The ARK(Sonic Adventure 2)
>Pumpkin Hill(Sonic Heroes, good taste btw)
>Babylon(Sonic Riders)
>The future(Sonic 06)
>Lost prologue(Sonic and the secret rings)
>Misty Lake(Sonic and the black Knight)
>Dragon Road(Sonic Unleashed)
>Starlight Carnival(Sonic Colors)
>White zone(lobby waiting stage, Sonic Generations)
>Sky Road(Sonic Lost World)
>Studiopolis(Sonic Mania)
>Metropolitan Highway(Sonic Forces)

Does it sound solid?

>Putting a fighting game on the 3DS
>Putting any fucking game on the 3DS in 2018

Sounds good! I apologize for any aggressiveness earlier.

No problem user, its fun to discuss actual vidya once in a while

Emerl I could see working a few ways;
>Mimic fighter: He’s got a slow move set to start, but the longer the battle lasts the faster he goes, changing his combos to copy his opponent. He’s the ultimate stall and switch, wearing out his opponent before taking them down with their own strengths.
>Rashomon Fighter: His entire moveset is just bits and pieces of everyone else’s
>Wisp Fighter: Emerl is brought back to life on a new energy source; Wispon. He and the Wisps share a character slot, with him having bits and pieces of moves derived from other fighters (but a touch less powerful or fast), and charging a move gives it secondary effects, like a laser dash or rocket evade.

It's a high selling platform, and not much else is coming out.

Wait, that's 2 Adventure 2 stages! We neeg a Heroes one. The Casino one?

I dont think I missed any game, I included one for heroes too

Maybe add Ice Paradise from Sonic Advance 2?

meant for

2D fighter
Auto combos
Made by arcsys

I've probably also predicted the future given how well DBF is performing.