Have you ever had to stop playing a fun character because you found out only faggots use him? Pic related

Have you ever had to stop playing a fun character because you found out only faggots use him? Pic related

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multiplayer is for fags especially fighting games

>waaaaaah people play to win :((((

I thought Sup Forums told me the casuals have left DBZF???

You know I can see someone like you being a great marketer
Someone who could really revitalize any sports franchise

Doesn't that just make you a faggot though?

No, but there are characters I like that evidently suggest that I'M a faggot.

>equating video games to sports

yikes.

People like winning. Winning is fun. People play characters that will increase their chances of winning. GO the fuck back to gamefaqs.

why does it matter though? Especially in a game like DBFZ, where the idiots will tierwhore while the good players either have their own teams or properly utilize top tier characters

Grow a fucking spine

You're the spineless one, I just have a code of honor is all

Yes. 16 is peak Unga.

Well I didn't quit Sup Forums when I found out you browsed here.

No, because all my favorite characters turn out to be low tier.

>Boco
>A faggot
You must be joking

You've got some nerve acting like you have a code of honor when your actions are blatantly influenced by what other people think of you.

>being such a salty hipster that you quit your supposed favorite character just because he's top tier

Just sell the game, dude

>muh honor

This isn't feudal Japan faggot. Just accept you're a bitch and move on.

>Leffen's tier list

Doesn't mean shit, this nigga got washed by the actual DBFZ king: Sonicfox lol

Ever see that one "What your Mario Kart/Smash Bros main says about you" chart?

who you main boco

It's a mentality thing, this might sound kind of gay but I feel like competitive games are best enjoyed when every person is involved in a fair match. I can no longer have fun if I feel like I stole the game from my opponent, even if I feel that my character is mechanically enjoyable. Here's a proposal: take your favorite competitive activity but imagine that everyone you ever face in this activity is a toddler. Not so fun, now is it?

>letting faggots ruin your fun
literally cuck

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The suffering only fuels us.

>leffen
>relevant
He'll get blown up in a real competitioon offline and stop playing the game like all fighting games he's touched

The only way the match is fair is if you both play the exact same characters. No fighting game is completely balanced and certain characters will always have something that puts them above others. If you're a better player then it won't matter what character you pick as no matter how top tier a character is it won't help if your opponent outplays you in every aspect of the game. Your comparison is shit because despite Android 16 being top tier he's not unbeatable, he's just easier to play. It's not even comparable to playing against a toddler in some sort of competition.

Hard agree with this

Just give it a month or two. They'll surely nerf 16 on the Feb/March/DLC1 patches. There's no way in hell they will let him stay as broken as he is.
Everyone playing him will be in for a rude awakening once he's knocked down and they've lost their easymode crutch.
16 is worse than just Top Tier. He's bordering on ST Akuma tier because of his overwhelming offense and being the only character with a True Hard Knockdown.

>washed
>switching from melee to a trad fighter and going 50-50 win loss with the EVO champ is now getting washed
please consider suicide

I have *never* heard anyone that wasn't salty about losing say this. Same goes for playing female characters as a dude.

Source: that one fight between my friends and I after I kept kicking ass as Felicia in Darkstalkers.

I was excited when Black was announced but his faggotry online made me swear off using him

Sonic Fox puts 16 up at solitary S tier, too.
16 is uncontested god tier in the vast majority of high rank players' personal tier lists.

What's up with 16? I just started playing dbfz.

>not maining Geico

I pity the fool

i get what you mean. i try to just play what i like but sometimes you just wanna be on an even playing field or just want to win.

Very fun character but he's also god-tier so tryhard niggers are clinging to him

>A.Gohan
>anywhere near hard to master
Fucking how?

>ST Akuma tier
ST Akuma has air fireballs that make some characters unusable and an easy blockstun infinite in the corner that can be done off just about anything. There is no fucking way A16 is that good

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Rip muh boi

>planing on maining 16 once I get dragon ball because I like his character
How many people will make fun at me for playing him? Is it worth it?

He lost 2-10. That's a wash.

>he thinks 16 is hard to play against
Literally block your feet you fucking homo and dont dragon rush

Disregard others, just pick the characters you like

why is ginyu such a fucking manlet in dbz fighterz

No, because I'm not an insecure slunt who worries what everyone thinks of me.
If I was, I'd be in a mental hospital and made sure that I were to only always face one of the four cardinal directions, or just lay down until someone gave me a compass to help me do it.

In Mario Kart: Koopa Troopa, and Yoshi if thats not an option.
Smash Bros: Lucario (Although this one is less "you're a faggot", more "you must be a furry")

High damage and a really strong neutral game.

gonna paste these from yesterday's thread
"Has all the strength of the big body grappler characters without any of the weaknesses.

All normals have extreme range while being very safe on block. Super armor. EXTREMELY high base damage bread and butter combos that ALWAYS leave you in a hard knockdown state in front of him, meaning a forced 50/50 mixup, and even if you guess right and block he's at advantage.

Most grapplers have a kiting weakness but his generic rocket punch is one of the best projectiles and thanks to how the game works with super dashes and vanish it's never hard for him to get in

Tons of strengths, no weakness, all on top of being quite easy to use"

"A grappler with several long range, lunging ground and air grapples.
A grappler also with incredible reach on all of his normals and most of his specials, speed that's just as good as everyone else, huge damage output and several projectile/ranged attacks that let him operate at long range.
Armor on his 5H tackle. That shit should be on Nappa. Armor on his 2H and armor on his fucking jumpH, making him the ultimate anti-air and safe jump-in character. All three armor moves are invincible to ki blasts as well.
An instakill move that's pretty fucking easy to land and it's "downside" is fully recoverable health.
The only character that can put opponents into a True Hard Knockdown that allows him to combo into other things and set down the most overwhelming oki pressure as the opponent can not wake up as they please.

No other character, not even super well rounded Blacku or Cell, has the overwhelmingly powerful tools of 18. He is outright broken in the hands of anyone who knows the basics of his many unique properties."

It took a second of digging but I pulled up videos. Damn, he does look crazy. I just started using him since I enjoyed grabbing people. I'm not even at a level yet where tiers matter but I can see people bitching.

>Huge damage output
>Ground grabs, air grabs, ground-to-air grabs
>Grab loops, grabs into grabs that can get a knockdown anywhere on the stage no matter the combo state
>Armor on his 5H, 2H and jH normals, giving him unparalleled ground, air-to-air and anti-air moves
>The only character with a True Hard Knockdown, meaning you can't recover as you please, you are forced to stand right in front of him where he has several crazy Oki tools that put you in a situation worse than a 50/50, if you choose wrong, you eat a second full combo that is sure to kill you since 16 getting 5000+ damage is child's play
>He's supposed to be a grappler so he should have poor ranged options, right? Nope, his projectiles and blast attacks are some of the best in the game.

16's command grabs have a huge range, are super fast, and they have high priority. I've had 16's grab me out of some melee specials.
16 can completely shut down characters if they lack the tools to fight him properly from a distance. You have to play retarded and very riskily in a hopeful attempt to simply catch him in what few openings he has.

People who are new tobthe fgc may not know this but grapplers are always top tier in the beginning of a games life cycle. This happens with every release. 16 will be less of a problem later because people will learn to deal with the bullshit

>not having character loyalty and sticking with them come ridiculous buffs or horrible nerfs

Do what you want if you want to be a tier whore.

The fuck do you need loyalty for? It's a video game character, not a wife

but user, what if it's both?

Tell that to everybody using 18 and 21.

Bullet is one of my favourite chara design from BB

Your decision made the character have one less faggot playing him.
Congrats

I would still main him if he was low tier. It's nice to main a top tier for once.

Just saying if you enjoy a character for their design or play style you shouldn't let tier placement or try-hards sway you. Lots of faggots place too much weight in tiers anyway when that data is barely applicable to them at their current level.

>tfw have both of them on my team
well at least I've been looking to replace 21. I'm not that great with here and her basic bnb combo won't land unless you are literally face to face with your opponent
maybe when Broly comes out I can swap her out for him
hopefully he won't be as blatantly broken and bullshit as 16

Nerfs could ruin a playstyle though

I know it doesn't count because it's a party game but
>Like Metaknight
>Favorite mode in Nightmare in Dreamland is the ironman mode where you get no saves but play through the whole game as Metaknight
>Brawl comes out
>Metaknight S tier everyone shits on me if I want to play him
>Tryhards in the group want to ban him

Nigga we ain't playing at the regional championships no one here plays at a level where tiers matter

>SonicFag fan
>Syas lol on Sup Forums
This adds up.

Even if it's smash, it's clearly the same feeling, personally i never know what to do, i had the same shit in Xrd when i picked up Sin and i didn't look or know jackshit about the tier list and some people god mad salty after losing telling me "oh stop playing the tier whore" "pick an actual honest character" et etc...

I prefer using spongebob as my main.

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the game is too rushdown/offense oriented. it needs more defensive options

the top 6 need the nerf hammer pretty hard too (16, 21, older gohan, black, vegeta, cell. maybe hit)

krillin, yamcha and fat buu need buffs. maybe piccolo too

First post, best post
And here we have an example of said faggot

>Namefag
>Being a faggot

Everything checks out here

t. lonely pirate

I completely agree, the defensiove option are the most urgent things to implement, there needs to be a safe pushblock option to make the pressure less braindead and actually giving the defender some actual options aside from "block" or " do unsafe shit and get stuffed"

>like 76 but bullet randomization is gay
>read on Sup Forums mercy pistol does same dmg
>start playing battle mercy
>pick purple cybergoth skin because line goth and cyberpunk
>apparently people use this exact one convo to be weird bdsm ppl shoving dildos up their ass
FUCKING GREAT

it's retarded how effective mashing can be with a character like black or older gohan due to the lack of good defensive options

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Piccolo just needs it where you can't Super Dash through his fireballs. That'd be such a massive buff to him

It's even more retarded that you can pretty much make everything safe by timing your assits correctly during your blockstrings

Now where's Plankton?

also, the way assists are right now makes it too offensive oriented as well, with assists basically serving mostly just for extending combos/covering for downtime. the game would be a lot more balanced without assists, although they're not getting removed since that means taking away a feature. i hope they can have more varied uses for them though, and that beam assists are less useful

yeah

Speaking of assist, a good way to balance them would be to increase the cooldown period

So who would you guys rank as the worst character atm?

If they do completely butcher a character it's understandable if somebody wants to switch.

>tfw mashing auto-combos is the best thing to do for some characters
Love that Trunks autoshit goes so fucking far and has a built-in mixup with assists. Fucking cancer

Be the first non-faggot to do it. Take him back.

>Buffing Fat Buu

youtu.be/_iI1SsCVi1M

>King of stubby normals and no beam assists
>Well rounded

definitely. also, increasing the amount of time they're vulnerable for (both before and after attacking), the damage they deal, and making them eat combos more (they leave after a couple of hits). basically, assists are too safe in general

probably yamcha

i don't think autocombos are the problem. i think it's nice that they're trying to make the genre more accessible, autocombos are predictable, deal less damage and can be incorporated into real combos. the problem is that the game lacks proper defensive tools (and the other stuff we're discussing, like imba characters and assists being too safe and whatnot)

*No beams

>party game

I would tell you to fuck off but considering that this is Brawl we're talking about I'll let it pass

Trunks auto-combo goes through people when blocked

Yeah more easy to happy birthday is an interesting idea

>That guy in 6v6 who always gets blown the fuck out right away but never leaves his spot for spectators

*the damage they are dealt

I'm waiting for actual data for tiers, but it is interesting to see top player's opinions.

>Yamcha
>bad
What the fuck are you talking about?

alright you got me. i just want yamcha to be top tier because that would be funny as fuck

He super armors through everything.

With that said, 16s are easy to deal with unless you’re playing a godlike player. It’s fucking Black that needs a hard nerf.

Goku nigger is like a more unga bunga version of Sin that doesn't even have the meat mechanic

Many would put characters like Krillin, Teen Gohan, Piccolo, Fat Buu, Gotenks and Nappa at the bottom. It varies a lot which one is each person's absolute bottom, though I think two that are consistently on the bottom are Nappa and Teen Gohan.

Both Teen Gohan and Nappa are on my team (because I like them as characters and they were locked in long before I saw any tier lists), and I refute that they are bottom tier. They're unorthodox powerhouses that you should be playing differently from the majority of the cast. Not quite as unique as Hit, but they operate on completely different fundamentals than mostly everyone else who just try to poke their way into their turn at block pressure hoping they can get in. Gohan can get in from almost 80% of fullscreen.

I see most people playing Teen Gohan objectively wrong, trying to act like his tiny normals can compete in neutral with anyone else, when he could be played as a mid-long range character. The only thing TGohan lacks is a true beam, he IS otherwise well rounded and extremely dangerous once you use one of his long range options to get in and then stick to the opponent.

>He super armors through everything
not supers or Ki powered attacks

of course it's worth it.