Second chart suffering Thread

Second chart suffering Thread.

Here are the rules:
>No characters from the first chart
>No vidya memes, creators or e-celebs
>Provide and image for the character you want to post and state the name of the character and the game its from
>Write a brief explanation about what your character does and why it would fit in that particular slot since I don't know every character out there
>S0-D0, S100-D0, S0-D100, and S100-D100 will be filled in last. Feel free to post who you think would fit in any of those slots, and a strawpoll will determine who gets what slot

Please discuss the spots of certain characters by the way, being as accurate as we can would be best.

Here's the first chart.

the other boards charts are better

How the fuck is Garrus at 50 D? He did nothing wrong. He was incredibly loyal and helpful for the entire series.

These fucking suck. So many characters in the wrong spots.

Then help fix the second one.

No

Ok

Rance should be aroudn 80-60

S: 60 - 80
D: 80 - 90

Lucas still needs to be (0,100)

Read the OP & give an explanation.

Why do we need a new one?

Stemmed from this

Where would android 21 go? I haven’t finished the story yet but she’s the only new character I can think of right now that I’m familiar with

He was in the first thread but I guess you missed him. Either way, here's a better pic of Enzo's beautiful face.

Suffering 20 Deserves 40

Mobster who's the personal janitor/bag boy/taxi driver for Bayonetta and constantly has to deal with the shenanigans she, as well as heaven and hell, get involved with. He owes a lot of money to them, though, and he acts like a massive jackass and even pisses on /ourguy/'s grave, so you'd be hard pressed to find someone who feels bad for him. Especially when you have to see his face at the end of any mission you fuck up.

I think there is a version of this one with names
anyone have it?

>Kagari deserve 100
Absolutely based

Vote for Joshua Graham at straight 85:85

They're on the first chart.

>Constantly burns every day
>Suffering; 70
I'm mad

There is no way Knoll suffered as much as Lyon. Lyon tried to stop a devastating earthwake to destroy his country, and as a result his father died and was turned into a demon zombie, he became possessed by an ancient demon and started a war against the entire continent, including ruining the life of his best friend and the girl he loves more than anything. Said ancient demon also made sure to keep his sanity intact until the very end only to make him believe that he could actually control said ancient demon, so that with his power he could not only save his country, but free the world from all pain and diseases. Of course ancient demon was only toying with him for fun and could've probably fully possessed him any second, in truth what he thinks is doing for good is simply causing the ancient demon to wake up, causing on Lyon to die so ancient demon can resurrect without that weak human body hindering him. Also he can die by the hands of either his best friend or the girl he loves more than anything, which might or might not cuck him with his best friend.

Knoll's suffering is watching Lyon go insane, and he makes sure to fulfill his dying wish by rebuilding Lyon's country like he had always dreamed of.

I'm honestly having a really hard time pinpointing this guy.
Scientist's experiment goes wrong, becomes bald and has a weird monkey helmet thing permanently attached to his head. Believing he is permanentely shamed and outcasted into society cause of the helmet, he joins the main villain, gets an afro wig, makes all the evil robots for him. And creates a space station with the power to cleave the earth in half.
After getting his ass beat by children and getting laughed at by the main villain for the helmet. He becomes a good guy, and sacrifices himself to destroy the space station. Just kidding he lived.

>Kenny that far left
He was an average man at the end of it all. He should be in the middle.

probably somewhere around 40 Suffering and 70 Deserved. He did end up saving the day, but he did pull off a bunch of bullshit in the first place and even lived his sacrifice attempt. He got away with a lot.

Tsumugi should be moved to deserved it 95

That guy from Tony Hawk is on both charts btw

Sounds like Knoll should go hell of a lot lower, where would you think he should go?

Yesterday he was in 35 & later moved to 65 after a little talk since someone felt he deserved 80. How does 55 sound?

She was originally in 85 but debated to be lower 65 at the lowest. The compromise was what we have now.

S:40-50
D:90-100

to add: His mother got raped, he proceeded to go to war with their whole country and basically slaughter everyone and burn everything down

>All that VN crap

Where?

leg horse (space funeral)
S: 75. was once a human who was turned into horse made of legs
D: 15. didn't really do much bad

Oh and he poisoned his father for allowing that to happen as well

S:70
D:40

She framed someone for her own murder and more or less forced people to kill each other, but that's hardly the most evil villain. 75 is seems about right to me.

S:50 D:30
Walter from SMTIV
Born into the lower class of a hierarchical society, Walter was chosen by a gauntlet to become a Samurai to fight demons. About 40 hours of gameplay later Walter decides to side with Lucifer to create a society where might makes right and is sacrificed to give Lucifer his physical form and invade his former home. Also STOP CASTING AGI ON MINOTAUR

Everyone else is already in the old chart

>Raziel
>Not in 100 tier suffering
Absolute fucking garbage list. The man was turned into the thing he most abhorred, forced to serve a madman and wipe out most of humanity, had his fucking wings torn off his back, burned alive for centuries, had his entire line of descendants wiped off the face of the planet, then got stuck in a time loop where he goes mad trapped in a sword for thousands upon thousands of years, and then after all of that he has to go back into the sword of his own free will.

And lets not forget sacrificing an entire town to a what's essentially a demon.

...

Character: Orsted
Game: Live A Live
Pretty much fought for people and humanity betrayed him, everything he knew was stripped from him and even his fiance committed suicide as she took pity on Straybow who was responsible for why he suffered (Used his magic to trick Oersted into committing Regicide) because he was jealous of being 2nd fiddle. He slightly deserves it for being oblivious to Straybow's actions. (You actually see him in the room when you wake up in his scenario) and not learning that Hash (Former Hero) became a misanthrope for a reason, even if Oersted helped Hash regain some semblance of being a warrior.

S-95 D5

Nvm, didn't see him on the 100 already, scratch my entry

S:65
D:40
>had his dad murdered by drug cartels
>did gods work for some time by killing drug gangs and thugs
>only went with armstrong to help stop the criminals
>wasn't a filthy cyborg almost 100% human
>beautiful smile
>died realising he abandoned his ideals
>did what he did with good intentions

>Early in life was abused and neglected by her mother, causing her to wind up with an all-consuming desire to simply be loved
>Wound up possessed by numerous baleful gods who wanted to destroy the world for seemingly no reason other than their nature
>Caused the destruction of the world in the majority of paths in the story by helping them out of a combination of her malice and their abilities and possession
>Literally every route ends with the world being irreparably ruined by her involvement and almost all societies being either destroyed in the process, or horribly warped
>Suffering on a global scale for all of humanity
>When she's finally "Freed", she wishes for death, but a warrior instead chose to never grant her that wish and instead drags her along everywhere he goes to show her the consequences of her actions
>Is forced to wander the world for eighteen years and see the grief her actions have brought to everybody before eventually breaking free and running away
>Tries to redeem herself with actions fueled by a drive for justice
>Almost destroys the entire world in the process (Again)
>BARELY scrapes by with a good end in one path

Suffering 95, Deserved 85

Sorry, she's from Drakengard and

S:75
D:80
Alister Azimuth from Ratchet and Clank, a Crack in Time.
General who was exiled after some jackass went and attempted to exterminate his entire race. One of the last members of his species in the universe and he was there to witness the extermination.
He went insane, attempted to murder his best friend's son, Ratchet, at least 2-3 times (and succeeded in one timeline), and attempted to use the Great Clock as a time machine to go back to the good old days. Using the Clock as a time machine would pretty much destroy the entire universe instead.
After getting his shit kicked in by Ratchet he tried to stop the clock from killing the entire universe, and killed himself in the process.

S:65
D:50

Club Penguin penguin

Lets his pets starve sometimes, gets crushed under the weight of beans, assists his community by making pizzas or serving the local police force in operations, lives under tyrannical government that will haul him off to jail as soon as he swears, probably has robbed a few pizza places for cash, is part of a cult that sternly believes if they dance on it hard enough they can flip an entire iceberg, probably acts like a dick to his peers, entire world as he knew it was erased before his very eyes causing him to cease to exist

Update so you all know I'm not dead.

Sorry, who?

Moved him down to 65 & moved everyone else that is above him in that up 5. Does that sound more fitting?

Mega spoilers
Name: Aisia Kursk
Game: Seraphic Blue
Child of the Kursk Family who was diagnosed with Defective Sera Human Infant Syndrome (DSHIS; DSHIS Children undergo Lucifer Mutation Syndrome in the final stages who wind up attacking any and all around themselves like monsters) and was dumped to the surface from Fezzite at the age of 5, then fused with 2 Gaia Cancers (Anomalies to the world like fissures in the planet's providence, can manifest as monsters but in her case she fused with 2 very powerful ones) to form Devil Disastia (She lost all sense of herself as do all children with DSHIS) who wreaked havoc on the surface, and was constantly fought by Devil Sweepers (Hunters) and was killed, her new body as a Devil was then used as meat like an animal who was killed for sport (Her death was the driving factor for the main antagonists actions of wanting to end the world)

S: 100
D: 0

slow down cowboy, we save the corners for last

S: 10
D: 70

The Demons of Vanity, Stretch Panic

>corrupts a little girl's 12 vain older sisters, turning them into demons (it's not clear whether or not they also possess them
>uses them as exhibits in a museum of agony
>are never actually directly fought or confronted, so the only bad thing that happens to them at the end of the game is they're out of exhibits
>presumably they're free to pull this shit again on another family

S : 95
D : 0

S:60
D:10
Brooke Augustine: Infamous Second Son

She's the very picture of a heartless bitch, going out of her way to hunt down and capture any all conduits which also makes her seem like a complete traitor to her kind until you find out her only options were to rise up to a position of trust in the government and be granted control of the DUP to control the threat of having people with superpowers in the world by capturing and containing them, or else watch the people in power literally genocide every last conduit on the planet. If she didn't play the role of enforcer well enough, she'd lose the confidence of the higher ups and her entire race would be hunted down and slaughtered. She ends up watching some retard kid spoil everything she's worked for and dies knowing everything she did is now in jeopardy, even though she effectively sold her soul for the cause.

100 suffering 80 deserved it
He tried his best damn it

Which characters?

He's on the first list at 100 Suffering 50 Deserved

Good taste, even though he was already on there

reasonable, carry on

...

Still saying Roy Earle from LA Noire deserves S-0 D-100. I posted my explanation in a previous thread, and don't want to type it again because I might get angry again.

I know the ultimate ones go to vote, so please consider this dickhead.

SLOWDOWN WITH THOSE CORNERS COWBOY

Was Kaim on the first list? Nigga had it pretty bad.

Fuck you Earle, there's a seat in Hell with your name on it.

i'd second that, but also absolutely 100 deserved it

Is this guy on it yet?

S:20
D: 60

S: 40
D: 40
>Zombies in general
>First helicopter pilot that saved them got infected and crashed
>Half of the campaign takes place in sufferable areas/times such as Swamp Fever, Hard Rain, and the bridge getting bombed part of the Parish
She makes it out just fine in the end at least.
No one likes Rochelle she's objectively the worst and most bland character in the series.

Here's an obscure one, Miss Peaches, from Dog's Life

Kidnaps dogs and turns them into cat food, and after getting brapped, she ends up falling into a masher and suffers the same fate, getting sliced, diced, and mashed into pieces.

Suffering: 85
Deserves: 85

>D:30

Fixed
95-100 suffering 0 deserved

Also on the original chart

You don't seem to understand what 85 suffering is, and dude, she just kills random dogs, that's D:20 at most

My autism strikes twice in a row

Magnus from Chrono Trigger
S: 85
D: 45
The entire game is him trying to reunite with his sister. He gets thrown into the future trying to save her and is cursed to be feared by humans ever since. He literally just wants to save his sister and stop Lavos from destroying the world, but Crono and gang comes along to fuck his shit up.
He might not deserve that much, but he is an asshole. He needlessly killed lots of humans, despite trying to save the world from Lavos.

S: 0
D: 40

The Gray Man, LSD Dream Emulator

He walks around in your dreams all creepy like and erases your dream journal if he gets close. That's all he does and he can't be interacted with beyond that

He's on the first chart at 100 Suffering and like 75 Deserved

ROBLOXian
S: 10
D: 90

Although he occasionally gets blown up some times, he basically gets away with doing anything without any repercussions. He can rob a bank, murder a whole army, blow up an entire town, and capitalize on retail without anything happening to him.

S: 80
D: 10

S:50
D:50

He suffers quite a bit. He gets cucked by his best friend, though he takes it in stride since he's a bro, also gets mindraped several times

He deserves about equally as much as he suffers because he couldn't keep his darkness in check and even once he's better he's not very good at communicating his feelings

>sorry who
fucking kill yourself

Fuck off Swadley

Pretty sure rance is already in the first chart lol

>Weebshit
Figured as much

So how accurate would you say this chart is so far, in regards to placements?

The only thing interesting in these are the perimeter rows.

Why's that?

who is in 90;0?

*Mute, from Analogue: A Hate Story.

S: 70
D: 75

*Mute, the AI in charge of security of the Mugungwha, a colony ship that departed with a colony of humans from Earth.

Due to an uprising she failed to prevent, the navigational AI of her ship was destroyed, effectively stranding the Mugungwha in space despite its intention to travel to a safer haven. This results in *Mute having to do her job for over a thousand years more than was intended.

In yet another uprising she fails to prevent, the human woman she falls in love with is imprisoned and later executed, and her memory is erased. The rebellion leader proceeds to groom the new *Mute (pictured) into a misogynistic bitch with nothing but contempt for women, as the new government of the Mugungwha is based on Neo-Confucian teachings.

But she's a total bitch before and after, and evidently not the best at her job.

Rance is already on the original chart though.

And the main diagonals

Rika Furude from Higurashi
Anons' reasoning was Stuck in a time loop of dying in terrible ways

Do you mean just the top and bottom rows, or also the leftmost and rightmost column?

S:5
D:5
lets get that corner piece squared away

0:0 canidate

What about this fucker?

No corner pieces until the end
That way its easier to argue who should be in the corners

>Rance
>in a suffering chart
nyet

Already on the previous list famalam

S: 95
D: 0

Update. Redirect me if I miss your guys suggestions & remember to explain who they are & why they should be where they you want them.

Put her in S55 D35 based on that description, not D20 like the other user said due to who else is around that deserving area. Debate further if this bothers you.